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Administrators' newsletter – July 2024
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).
Administrator changes
Technical news
- Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)
Miscellaneous
- The Community Wishlist is re-opening on 15 July 2024. Read more
Unanswered unblock request
editThere’s an unblock request here that hasn’t been answered in two weeks. I won’t cast judgement on its validity but I think the user has a right to know whether they’ll be unblocked. Dronebogus (talk) 08:23, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dronebogus: After a fair bit of thought, I declined the request. Johnuniq (talk) 09:34, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Continued edit warring during open discussion
editEven though one person was already blocked for edit-warring on this, two others continue: Richard D'Oyly Carte. Can you please return it to the status quo ante? -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- There is an edit request there now that, I think, resolves the issue? -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:09, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- I saw that but did nothing because I think there should be a bit more time to see if anyone else has an opinion. I'll look again a little later. Johnuniq (talk) 02:39, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
user:Smefs again
editThe user is now baselessly accusing me of being a sock of some user they have a grudge against. This is sufficient evidence to demonstrate they are uninterested in actually getting unblocked. I think revoking their talk page rights is in order. Dronebogus (talk) 16:48, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dronebogus: The user is now unable to comment further at their talk so there is nothing further to do. However, for the future, please do not repeatedly comment at a blocked users talk unless invited. Very few people think they deserve to be blocked and it is expected that they will vent a bit. I know you were trying to help but it plainly was not doing any good. It's best to leave them alone and comment only if they ask for something specific and it appears that a reply might achieve something useful. Johnuniq (talk) 01:49, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Tupac Page
editThe Tupac page can now be edited by everyone; it wasn't like that before. Previously, only administrators and users with permission could edit it. This rule needs to be reinstated, or it will be edited every day Pier1999 (talk) 14:12, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- This refers to Tupac Shakur where I don't think I have ever been involved. The above has been posted in a number of places and the article is now fully protected to prevent an edit war. Johnuniq (talk) 02:37, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Diminishment icosahedron
editHi. Excuse me, can you help me to delete the redirect article Diminishment icosahedron? It seems it is already has the name Diminished icosahedron. I really messed up. Many thanks. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 13:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dedhert.Jr: I wouldn't worry about it. The word "diminishment" appears in the article (Gyroelongated pentagonal pyramid) and the redirect Diminishment icosahedron is not a problem. I would delete it if it was misleading or something bad but the people at WP:RFD accept just about anything for redirects and this is a long way off that. Johnuniq (talk) 01:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Rapid-fire disruptive editor
editPlease look at User:BittersweetParadox's edit history. They make numerous rapid edits to add wikilinks to words like baseball and make other mischievous edits, such as the edit on July 16th to Lingua franca. They have been warned many, many times. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:16, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have warned and will watch. Johnuniq (talk) 02:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Vandal calling my actions on Nguyễn Phú Trọng 'vandal ism'
editHi. There is a vandal, whose name is Maeve Kessler, trying to revert constructive edits, including mine. can you block him for a while? thank you. 2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771 (talk) 11:23, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Nevermind, he already got blocked.
- 2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771 (talk) 11:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Request for mentoring and direction
editAs you likely recall, I recently posted to WP:AN, escalating an issue that many other users explicitly said I was wrong to escalate to that venue and that they objected to my framing in many respects. There were additional complaints about my tone, skirting editing restrictions, etc. I appreciate that the issue at large just got out of control. Unfortunately, the issue in general has continued. As you noted at the time, "changing the style of anything in an article without good reason is very disruptive" and as soon as that conversation was closed at AN, the same user changed styles on an article where we discussed this years ago. I posted to his talk and he archived the thread without responding. Both my perspective and his behavior seem like they are not changing and for many reasons, escalating it to WP:AN is not the right idea and the user does not seem interested in discussing one-one one, so I will not be posting to his talk again as I have no interest in harassing someone who refuses to talk. (I also didn't ping him because I don't see value in that, but I respect if you want to notify him of the conversation.) What do you recommend I do here? I still think and it seems like you validated that changing styles unilaterally is disruptive, so is there something that I'm missing here? What should I be doing differently? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- We've gone round and round and round in one-on-one discussions and you made the decision to withdraw your complaint due to the overwhelming majority of the responses from admins being unfavorable toward your argument, so I'm at an impasse as far as being able to engage with you (not that this is anything new). It was brought to my attention through that discourse (by User:Just Step Sideways) that the way you addressed me regarding the page I just went back and made edits to was inappropriate at the time and again, I only make changes under good reasons, and in this case it was to reflect a consistent style across the board as he already had multiple country albums release prior to that with the tracklisting template. CloversMallRat (talk) 16:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please see this post where Johnuniq explicitly wrote, "If new examples of arbitrary style changes occur, please let me know." That is the only reason I wrote here, since I was solicited to do so. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:13, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
@CloversMallRat: As noted at WP:AN, Koavf has an interesting history and you might correctly assume that the discussion there did not support Koavf's position. However, the comments that I noticed were focusing on the extreme TLDR and background rather than the issue. I did see one comment along the lines of who cares but that is just wrong due to the amazing disruption that has occurred when people dedicate themselves to "fixing" various style issues—dates, spelling, colors, spacing, wiki syntax, and probably many more. The documentation at Template:Track listing specifically mentions MOS:VAR and that does not appear to have been added recently. I take your point that a good argument can be made for a consistent style between articles on a single artist. However, that argument has to be made somewhere central such as a relevant wikiproject. A positive consensus has to be shown before continuing a campaign. Is there any documentation or discussion supporting a continuation? Do you have any idea how many more of these articles need to be "fixed"? A dozen? A hundred? By discussion, I don't mean bickering with extreme indignation at a user or an article talk page. Has there been a calm wikiproject discussion on this issue? If not, and if you intend continuing, please start a discussion and let me know where it is. If wanted, link to here or AN, but do not mention other editors at a wikiproject. What is needed is a calm examination of the issue, not the background. Changing any further articles without such a discussion would be disruptive. Johnuniq (talk) 04:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
RPPI for Across the River (etc)
editHi, Many thanks for your recent assistance at WP:RPPI, much appreciated.
Any thoughts on how the broader NOTHERE issues in relation to that multiple IP address user might be resolved? I’m not sure that attempting to get further blocks like this one [1] is really going to work (although i don't think it would necessarily do any harm, given recent edits like this [2].
Any assistance gratefully received. Axad12 (talk) 05:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Axad12: I blocked Special:Contributions/151.71.102.0/24 for three months. Let me know what pops up next. Johnuniq (talk) 05:23, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Much obliged. I'll keep an eye on the situation. Axad12 (talk) 05:26, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Your semi-protection of Withdrawal of Joe Biden from the 2024 United States presidential election
editFigured I should point out I had made a RPP for the page so you can mark it off. TrueCRaysball 💬|✏️ 05:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I saw your report which is why I protected. I had to add it to the log and so was slow updating the request page. Johnuniq (talk) 05:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good. We were fighting for our lives there. LMAO. Thanks for your help! TrueCRaysball 💬|✏️ 05:39, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
WP:3TOPE and WikiWork Factor
editHi, @Johnuniq. I have asked this in WP:TEAHOUSE but it does not give responses from many users. Do you know where can I request to include the WP:3TOPE asssesment table to WikiWork Factor? The mismatched number of polyhedron articles in a table is already an old problem after it was created. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 11:27, 22 July 2024 (UTC)