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Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, people's rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. It's been a while. Hope all is well! ―Buster7 

Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin June Issue 2

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Hey, Soni! Thanks for closing the PMs RfC. No one has objected, but when you said That WP:RS disagree on whether the current PM is 14th or 15th is more evidence in favour of this removal I felt like it could be interpreted as a supervote. Valereee (talk) 11:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Valereee I think it is probably a phrasing thing than a supervote.
Multiple people had expressed the same sentiment, for example We are not clear on which source we should trust. Some mention Modi as the 15th PM and some as the 14th. Moreover, the sources are also confused by GrabUp. It is a solid argument in favour of remove, and imho a strong one too. As closing arguments are supposed to summarise the most pertinent points of the discussion when closing, I added that.
It wasn't intended to be "I think it should be removed because of X" but "People have said X, and that's more evidence for removal". Soni (talk) 14:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)Antwort
Yes, that's basically what I figured -- a matter of phrasing, which if anyone objects you can just tweak. Best to you! Valereee (talk) 15:12, 17 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin July Issue 1

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An IT blessing for you!

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May your "downtime " always be the relaxing kind.
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Soni's device ran into a problem and needs to restart in a loop forever
Thank you for collapsing my sections that were starting to veer off-topic. I will do that to myself next time (or just not veer off-topic, when possible). Thank you for giving us a chance for a clean start at trying for consensus, by closing the first discussion as "no consensus". And thank you for encouraging me to ensure that all instructions are brief, clear, and neutral.

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A barnstar for you!

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  The Barnstar of Diplomacy
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Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin July Issue 2

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Thanks

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  Project Editor Retention

This editor was willing to lend a helping hand!
Thanks for all you do to acknowledge others at the Editor of the Week Awards, You nominated our first Editor of the Week O so many years ago. The future was hard to predict back then...but here we are still building the encyclopedia that the world goes to for answers.

Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 12:36, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Buster7 Haha, I remember those ye olden days way too vividly. Almost feels a few weeks ago, not a third of my life. If I remember correctly, Isadora was also the one who designed all the cool EotW images that we then templated out. That was a fun time.
I don't know if I told you this, but over the course of the last decade, I have vaguely followed Wikipedia even in years I made no edits; and every time, I could see proudly see the continue strong. All the incoming recipient responses kept reinforcing how tangible an impact we were making, keeping editors from quitting or making them more excited about editing again. And you were always the one man army keeping it going through everything. So thank you, you gave me something to be very proud of, and something to look back and go "Oh this thing we did, it worked out well". Soni (talk) 12:59, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Antwort
You make me think of the movie Field of Dreams and "If you build it they will come". I remember how disappointing it was that DB walked away and left us adrift. I've felt it all these years and say it now only since it bubbles up from distant memory. But we kept it afloat, out to sea where no one could find us and editors stopped talking to us. But...here we are...560 Eddy's later. Well done! Good for Us! Good for the WP community. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 13:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Antwort
Yeah I guess my POV in this kind of thing was always "It's good and healthy for people to branch out and do different things". I know half the people I used to know well from that time are either retired or in the WMF now. But me walking away was the best way to let me feel excited again and come back to enWiki and more active editing. So I'm glad the torch is still burning, and I hope there's more people to carry it on when we branch out or stop. Soni (talk) 13:48, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
My disappointment in the editor retention wikiproject is broader: most discussion threads were indistinguishable from those on other pages complaining that editor X or editors interested in Y have been wronged, and there was little interest shown in working on improvement initiatives. Editor of the Week has persisted in part because we deliberately set it up with long-term sustainability in mind (the other part being, of course, Buster7's dedication). It has a specific objective to recognize beneficial tasks completed (even if it encompasses a broad range of editor activity), relatively low overhead, and is designed not as a prize to be fought over, but as a token of encouragement. Offhand, other than the Signpost, I can't think of any other initiative not directly related to writing articles that has lasted as long. That's an impressive track record and directly attributable to Buster7 being there, day in and day out. isaacl (talk) 14:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Antwort
Yeah I guess specificity went a long way to guarantee longevity (other than having someone who can commit to it for months). Teahouse is another one, but it's more a forum than a specific project. I wonder what other specific things could be started today if people were so excited.
@Buster7 and @Isaacl, thanks for the thoughts. Soni (talk) 03:02, 3 August 2024 (UTC)Antwort
True enough that the various help forums predate Editor of the Week (the Teahouse by a bit less than a year). The reference desk is one that is, by design, unrelated to editing at all. I think there are editors who are initially excited, but they have to follow through: for initiatives that need consensus support, work to generate agreement, and for things that can be done individually, put in the work. I understand, though, with so many other pastimes available, there's often a more interesting alternative that comes up. isaacl (talk) 03:27, 3 August 2024 (UTC)Antwort
You two are making me blush. Isaacl, you bring to mind how difficult it was to maintain the heartbeat of a thread/discussion with out it evaporating into non-sequiturs and verbal quarrels. Triage was constant. Keeping the talk on topic was impossible. We were like referees in a WFF Battle Royal. As combatants showed up, the wrestling ring kept getting larger and larger. I can't remember names but I know we had provocateurs that only came for the "blood sport" while we had to herd cats and share our thoughts at the same time. I was lucky that I saw a niche and I filled it. And here we are a decade later. Good for Us! Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 03:52, 3 August 2024 (UTC)Reply