Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marie Lewis

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 05:48, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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A complete and utter failure for GNG. Literally all my searches just bring up her name in a line of lists, but there is nothing specifically about Lewis. The one "reliable" source used also has nothing to do with the subject so I wonder why it was used. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:16, 28 September 2016 (UTC) ::speedy keep' Article was nominated for WP:Pointy reasons. Subject competed in world championships and this automatically confers notability.2607:FB90:763:6EFB:6A9B:2546:F3FF:40B0 (talk) 06:14, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I struck the sockpuppet's comment. I don't agree that simply competing at a world championship confers automatic notability, but I do think she's notable. See my comments below. Papaursa (talk) 01:02, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 08:44, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

*Comment Competing in the world championships for judo doesn't automatically confer notability - that presumption of notability applies to olympics but the fact that she medalled might. The WP:GNG remains an issue since that trumps all in both directions.Peter Rehse (talk) 08:44, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:51, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I couldn't find anything on "Marie Lewis" at judoinside.com, but I could when I looked for "Mary Lewis". Perhaps this article should be renamed to "Mary Lewis (judoka)". I have updated and sourced the article, though I left the title unchanged. I'm inclined to support notability to anyone who wins a medal at a world championship of a major organization, especially when she was also a four time U.S. champion and finished in the top 3 nine times. I would say WP:MANOTE and WP:NSPORT are met, although I couldn't find the significant coverage needed for WP:GNG. I think it's worth pointing out that women's judo wasn't an Olympic sport until 1988, so the women's world championships were clearly the highest level at the time. Papaursa (talk) 01:02, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Good catch on the Mary Lewis connection. I think medaling at the World Judo championships confers notability and her other success in US championships adds to that. Like to see more sources besides JudoInside.Peter Rehse (talk) 10:29, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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