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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
editThe category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
edit- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
edit- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
editBringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
edit- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
edit- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
edit- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions
editWhen handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
edit- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
editIf the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 06:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 121 open requests (. )
Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour waiting period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests
editPlease add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Donkey Kong (video game) competitions to Category:Donkey Kong – C2F. May not be a matching name, but it is essentially the category's main subject, and the only article about Donkey Kong competitions. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 04:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Low-importance NA-Class Rocks and minerals articles to Category:NA-Class Rocks and minerals articles of Low-importance – C2C: Consistency with all other articles by quality and importance. Requires an update to Template:WikiProject Rocks and minerals. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:36, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Mid-importance List-Class Rocks and minerals articles to Category:List-Class Rocks and minerals articles of Mid-importance
- NO BOTS Category:NA-importance NA-Class Rocks and minerals articles to Category:NA-Class Rocks and minerals articles of NA-importance
- NO BOTS Category:Top-importance NA-Class Rocks and minerals articles to Category:NA-Class Rocks and minerals articles of Top-importance
- NO BOTS Category:High-importance NA-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:NA-Class Palaeontology articles of High-importance – C2C: Consistency with all other articles by quality and importance. Requires an edit to Template:WikiProject Palaeontology. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:High-importance Redirect-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Redirect-Class Palaeontology articles of High-importance
- NO BOTS Category:NA-importance Draft-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Draft-Class Palaeontology articles of NA-importance
- NO BOTS Category:NA-importance File-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:File-Class Palaeontology articles of NA-importance
- NO BOTS Category:NA-importance FM-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:FM-Class Palaeontology articles of NA-importance
- NO BOTS Category:NA-importance Portal-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Portal-Class Palaeontology articles of NA-importance
- NO BOTS Category:NA-importance Start-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Start-Class Palaeontology articles of NA-importance
- NO BOTS Category:NA-importance Unassessed Palaeontology articles to Category:Unassessed Palaeontology articles of NA-importance
- NO BOTS Category:Top-importance NA-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:NA-Class Palaeontology articles of Top-importance
- NO BOTS Category:Unknown-importance Category-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Category-Class Palaeontology articles of Unknown-importance
- Category:People from Chikkamagaluru to Category:People from Chikmagalur – C2D: with Chikmagalur — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 14:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Chikkamagaluru district to Category:Chikmagalur district – C2D: with Chikmagalur district — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 13:59, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Roads in Chikkamagaluru district to Category:Roads in Chikmagalur district – C2D. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 14:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Transport in Chikkamagaluru district to Category:Transport in Chikmagalur district – C2D. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 14:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Tourist attractions in Chikkamagaluru district to Category:Tourist attractions in Chikmagalur district – C2D. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 14:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from Chikkamagaluru district to Category:People from Chikmagalur district – C2D. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 14:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Villages in Chikkamagaluru district to Category:Villages in Chikmagalur district – C2D. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 14:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cities and towns in Chikkamagaluru district to Category:Cities and towns in Chikmagalur district – C2D. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 14:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Geography of Chikkamagaluru district to Category:Geography of Chikmagalur district – C2D. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 14:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Education in Chikkamagaluru district to Category:Education in Chikmagalur district – C2D. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 14:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Universities and colleges in Chikkamagaluru district to Category:Universities and colleges in Chikmagalur district – C2D. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 14:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Schools in Chikkamagaluru district to Category:Schools in Chikmagalur district – C2D. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 14:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Railway stations in Chikkamagaluru district to Category:Railway stations in Chikmagalur district – C2D. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 14:01, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hindu temples in Chikkamagaluru district to Category:Hindu temples in Chikmagalur district – C2D. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 14:01, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Buildings and structures in Chikkamagaluru district to Category:Buildings and structures in Chikmagalur district – C2D. — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 14:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Chinese culture by province to Category:Culture in China by province – C2C: Based on Category:Culture by country subdivision, for which this is the only category that doesn't begin with "Culture...". Going with "Culture in" instead of "Culture of", because all of the subcategories of this category use "Culture in". Hey man im josh (talk) 12:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Establishments by year templates to Category:Establishments-by-year templates – hyphenate, C2C within Category:Chronology category header templates – Fayenatic London 10:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Qin dynasty culture to Category:Culture of the Qin dynasty – C2C: Grammatically awkward, and consistent with Category:Culture of the People's Republic of China for the modern country. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Han dynasty culture to Category:Culture of the Han dynasty
- Category:Sui dynasty culture to Category:Culture of the Sui dynasty
- Category:Tang dynasty culture to Category:Culture of the Tang dynasty
- Category:Song dynasty culture to Category:Culture of the Song dynasty
- Category:Yuan dynasty culture to Category:Culture of the Yuan dynasty
- Category:Ming dynasty culture to Category:Culture of the Ming dynasty
- Category:Qing dynasty culture to Category:Culture of the Qing dynasty
- Category:Culture in Joseon to Category:Culture of Joseon – C2C: Consistency with all similar categories that use Culture of. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Adams political family residences to Category:Adams family residences – C2C: Category:Adams family Omnis Scientia (talk) 00:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lincoln Stars (baseball) players to Category:New York Lincoln Stars players – C2D. Parent article moved to New York Lincoln Stars over a month ago. -- BX (talk) 22:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lincoln Giants players to Category:New York Lincoln Giants players – C2D. Parent article moved to New York Lincoln Giants over a month ago. -- BX (talk) 22:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:English writers by locality to Category:English writers by county – C2C: parent category is Category:English people by county and occupation. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Competitors in athletics with a visual impairment to Category:Competitors in athletics with visual impairment – C2A. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sportspeople with a vision impairment to Category:Sportspeople with vision impairment – C2A: Removing the "a" since it can be more than one type/reason. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Battles of the Polish–Muscovite War (1605–1618) to Category:Battles of the Polish–Russian War (1609–1618) – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Military dictatorship in Myanmar to Category:Military rule in Myanmar – C2D: per Military rule in Myanmar. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Polish people of the Polish–Russian War (1605–1618) to Category:Polish people of the Polish–Russian War (1609–1618) – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Russian people of the Polish–Russian War (1605–1618) to Category:Russian people of the Polish–Russian War (1609–1618) – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Naturalised citizens of Iraq to Category:Naturalized citizens of Iraq – C2A, change s to z spelling, like Category:Organizations based in Iraq – Fayenatic London 11:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Denaturalized citizens of the United Kingdom to Category:Denaturalised citizens of the United Kingdom
- Oppose "Denaturalised citizens of the United Kingdom"; the spelling with a "z" is Oxford spelling, which I think should be encouraged per MOS:COMMONALITY and for consistency within Category:Denaturalized citizens by country. Ham II (talk) 10:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Denaturalized citizens of the United Kingdom to Category:Denaturalised citizens of the United Kingdom
- Category:Sheep breeds originating from Indigenous Americans to Category:Sheep breeds originating from indigenous Americans – C2A. Wikihistorian (talk) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full CfD. Indigenous peoples of the Americas is the pertinent article. See my comments on "Breeds originating from Indigenous people" below for the rest of my rationale. Ham II (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Pig breeds originating from Indigenous Americans to Category:Pig breeds originating from indigenous Americans – C2A. Wikihistorian (talk) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full CfD. Indigenous peoples of the Americas is the pertinent article. See my comments on "Breeds originating from Indigenous people" below for the rest of my rationale. Ham II (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Horse breeds originating from Indigenous Americans to Category:Horse breeds originating from indigenous Americans – C2A. Wikihistorian (talk) 13:39, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full CfD. Indigenous peoples of the Americas is the pertinent article. See my comments on "Breeds originating from Indigenous people" below for the rest of my rationale. Ham II (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Dog breeds originating from Indigenous Americans to Category:Dog breeds originating from indigenous Americans – C2A. Wikihistorian (talk) 13:39, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full CfD. Indigenous peoples of the Americas is the pertinent article. See my comments on "Breeds originating from Indigenous people" below for the rest of my rationale. Ham II (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Mammal breeds originating from Indigenous Americans to Category:Mammal breeds originating from indigenous Americans – C2A. Wikihistorian (talk) 13:38, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full CfD. Indigenous peoples of the Americas is the pertinent article. See my comments on "Breeds originating from Indigenous people" below for the rest of my rationale. Ham II (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Breeds originating from Indigenous Americans to Category:Breeds originating from indigenous Americans – C2A: cf. Category:Crops originating from indigenous Americans Wikihistorian (talk) 13:37, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full CfD. Indigenous peoples of the Americas is the pertinent article. See my comments on "Breeds originating from Indigenous people" below for the rest of my rationale. Ham II (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Breeds originating from Indigenous people to Category:Breeds originating from indigenous people – C2A. Wikihistorian (talk) 13:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full CfD. Indigenous peoples is the pertinent article (note the plural), and the first endnote there says that most style guides recommend a capital "I" in running text. The category's current scope is conceptually shaky, conflating as it does people indigenous to the Americas with ones from the Basque Country; it should probably be reserved for capital-I Indigenous peoples, which means only the first group. The idea of animal breeds originating from people has a problematic ring; is there a better way of expressing this? Ham II (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:LGBT men artists to Category:LGBT male artists – C2B: Norm is "Male artists" Mason (talk) 19:52, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: the norm is also Category:LGBT men not the least because of transgender men. I guess this should go to full discussion with a notification at the LGBT WikiProject talk page. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:32, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please look at the siblings for other LGBT fooian male occupations. There's no other example of Fooian men occupations. Mason (talk) 12:33, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support as the cat creator. --MikutoH talk! 16:19, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment in fact, I based the title of this with the same pattern of the women equivalent. --MikutoH talk! 01:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: the norm is also Category:LGBT men not the least because of transgender men. I guess this should go to full discussion with a notification at the LGBT WikiProject talk page. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:32, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sacked Hindu temples in the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent to Category:Hindu temples destroyed in the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent – C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @LaundryPizza03: oppose, "sacked" was suggested in full CfD for a good reason, namely that in many cases the damage has been repaired ages ago, so "destroyed" is not applicable. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:39, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Scientists by region in France to Category:Scientists from France by region – C2E. Thedarkknightli (talk) 22:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Models by region in France to Category:Models from France by region – C2E. Thedarkknightli (talk) 22:40, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Filmmakers by region in France to Category:Filmmakers from France by region – C2E. Thedarkknightli (talk) 22:37, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Businesspeople by region in France to Category:Businesspeople from France by region – C2E. Thedarkknightli (talk) 22:32, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Activists by region in France to Category:Activists from France by region – C2E. Thedarkknightli (talk) 22:27, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Entertainers by region in France to Category:Entertainers from France by region – C2E. Thedarkknightli (talk) 22:01, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Comedians by region in France to Category:Comedians from France by region – C2E. Thedarkknightli (talk) 22:08, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Dancers by region in France to Category:Dancers from France by region – C2E. Thedarkknightli (talk) 22:12, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Television personalities by region in France to Category:Television personalities from France by region – C2E. Thedarkknightli (talk) 22:16, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Musicians by region in France to Category:Musicians from France by region – C2E. Thedarkknightli (talk) 23:39, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Thedarkknightli: while we are it now, "in France" should also be changed to "French", C2C per Category:French people by occupation, Category:French musicians etc. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:36, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- I second Marco's suggestion, @Thedarkknightli. A lot of categories like this have been changed to "Foo people by region". Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Thedarkknightli: please comment here too on using "French". Marcocapelle (talk) 07:14, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Marcocapelle and @Omnis Scientia, sorry for the late reply. Well, people from some French region don't necessarily hold French citizenship or identify as French. However, I don't have a strong opinion on this. Thedarkknightli (talk) 09:56, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Thedarkknightli, the solution to that is simply to put them in the category of whatever they identify as while also adding them to "Expatriates" categories where appropriate. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: does this suffice for speedy processing? Marcocapelle (talk) 11:50, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Let us wait for a bit and then I will process it unless there are objections. Ymblanter (talk) 13:23, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: does this suffice for speedy processing? Marcocapelle (talk) 11:50, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Thedarkknightli, the solution to that is simply to put them in the category of whatever they identify as while also adding them to "Expatriates" categories where appropriate. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Marcocapelle and @Omnis Scientia, sorry for the late reply. Well, people from some French region don't necessarily hold French citizenship or identify as French. However, I don't have a strong opinion on this. Thedarkknightli (talk) 09:56, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Thedarkknightli: please comment here too on using "French". Marcocapelle (talk) 07:14, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Opposed requests
edit- None currently
On hold pending other discussion
edit- Category:1924 establishments in Mozambique to Category:1924 establishments in Portuguese Mozambique – C2C with Category:1920s in Portuguese Mozambique, following parameter change by Marcocapelle.[1] The member pages are in Beira, Maputo and Nampula which were all under Portuguese control at the time. – Fayenatic London 12:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:1924 in Mozambique to Category:1924 in Portuguese Mozambique
- Support, just adding this because I was pinged. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:34, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:1924 in Mozambique to Category:1924 in Portuguese Mozambique
Moved to full discussion
edit- Category:Family of Boris Johnson to Category:Boris Johnson family – C2B. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:05, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- It has been recently moved via speedy, may be we should go for a full discussion.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:07, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter, oh I did that, incorrectly thinking it was an error or the wrong. But in fact the previous version was the correct form so was just undoing it. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- It has been recently moved via speedy, may be we should go for a full discussion.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:07, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princesses of Montenegro to Category:Montenegrin princesses – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:14, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princes of Montenegro to Category:Montenegrin princes – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princesses of the Netherlands to Category:Dutch princesses – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:12, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princesses of Serbia to Category:Serbian princesses – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princesses of Poland to Category:Polish princesses – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princesses of Luxembourg to Category:Luxembourgian princesses – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princesses of Liechtenstein to Category:Liechtenstein princesses – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princesses of Greece to Category:Greek princesses – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princesses of Denmark to Category:Danish princesses – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:40, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princesses of Belgium to Category:Belgian princesses – C2A. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:40, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princesses in Italy to Category:Italian princesses – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princesses of Sweden to Category:Swedish princesses – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princesses of Iraq to Category:Iraqi princesses – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princes of Afghanistan to Category:Afghan princes – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:37, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princes of Saudi Arabia to Category:Saudi Arabian princes – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:37, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princesses in Germany to Category:German princesses – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:16, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princes of the Netherlands to Category:Dutch princes – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:15, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princes of Luxembourg to Category:Luxembourgian princes – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:14, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princes of Jordan to Category:Jordanian princes – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:12, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princes of Iraq to Category:Iraqi princes – C2C: to match sister categories in Category:Princes by country. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princes in Italy to Category:Italian princes – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princes of Hawaii to Category:Hawaiian princes – C2C: to match sister categories in Category:Princes by country. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:09, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princes of Greece to Category:Greek princes – C2C: to match sister categories in Category:Princes by country. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:05, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princes in Germany to Category:German princes – C2C: to match sister categories in Category:Princes by country. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:59, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princes of Denmark to Category:Danish princes – C2C: to match sister categories in Category:Princes by country. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Princes of Albania to Category:Albanian princes – C2C: to match sister categories in Category:Princes by country. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: shouldn't the standard be the other way around? These seem to be about princes and princesses of a country indeed, in contrast to "barons of" categories which you nominated at full CfD. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, I'm not fully sure. The naming is uneven in all these categories. But for princes and princesses, I would say "Fooian princes" is the better form since there are also sovereign princes such as the Prince of Monaco and many more throughout history. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:41, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also, I didn't move this one to full Cfd since majority were already "Fooian princes(ses)" so C2C applied here. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- The usage of "prince" in Prince of Monaco is quite exceptional, in contrast to the usage of the word "prince" as "male member of the family of the monarch". In both cases they are princes of a country though. What otherwise would they be a prince of. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, would you be is favor of taking it to full Cfd? Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:01, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: yes, but I will only support a reverse rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:08, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Either way is fine by me but I'll move it to full and then we can speedy the rest. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:20, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: yes, but I will only support a reverse rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:08, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, would you be is favor of taking it to full Cfd? Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:01, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- The usage of "prince" in Prince of Monaco is quite exceptional, in contrast to the usage of the word "prince" as "male member of the family of the monarch". In both cases they are princes of a country though. What otherwise would they be a prince of. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also, I didn't move this one to full Cfd since majority were already "Fooian princes(ses)" so C2C applied here. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, I'm not fully sure. The naming is uneven in all these categories. But for princes and princesses, I would say "Fooian princes" is the better form since there are also sovereign princes such as the Prince of Monaco and many more throughout history. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:41, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: shouldn't the standard be the other way around? These seem to be about princes and princesses of a country indeed, in contrast to "barons of" categories which you nominated at full CfD. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose all of them. Nationality =/= Country. First, a prince of Bohemia, of Austria, or of Bavaria were all considered to be German princes (during the HRE), while it would be difficult to argue that the prince of Bohemia, or of Austria are princes in Germany. Second, one could have been a princess in Denmark, or of the Netherlands, while being of French or of German nationality. I'm pretty much sure that searching a little bit, many of those cases would arise.SFBB (talk) 23:24, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- See for instance Category:Princesses of Orange that you would categorize as Dutch princess...it simply does not work. SFBB (talk) 23:26, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- @SFBB: the discussion has been moved to full Cfd where there is an option A and B. Feel free to contribute there. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:24, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- See for instance Category:Princesses of Orange that you would categorize as Dutch princess...it simply does not work. SFBB (talk) 23:26, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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