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The list was promoted by Hey man im josh via FACBot (talk) 00:27, 23 July 2024 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of Seattle Reign FC seasons

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Nominator(s): SounderBruce 19:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the sixth list in a series on Seattle sports team seasons that I have brought to FLC, and one for one of the newer teams in the area. Seattle Reign FC are in their 12th season as a top-flight women's soccer team and have yet to win a league championship, but not for a lack of trying, with three podium finishes. The list is formatted similarly to List of Seattle Sounders FC seasons, which blends American sports lists with the international soccer standards. SounderBruce 19:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • "the best performing team [....] with the most points" - is this not a bit tautological?
    • Removed "best performing" to make it clearer; American sports can have multiple ways of determining the "best" team.
  • "The NWSL Cup champion" - is this the same thing as the NWSL Challenge Cup?
    • Fixed.
  • "The Reign set the standalone single-match attendance record" - is the word "standalone" needed here? In this context does it not just mean the same as "single-match"?
    • Removed "single"; the Reign also have a higher reported attendance from a "doubleheader" with the Sounders where one ticket was good for both games on the same day, but separate numbers weren't released.
  • "The winner of that competition qualifies for the FIFA Women's Club World Cup" - given that that competition hasn't launched yet, I think this needs to be in the future tense (this occurs in two places)
    • Fixed.
  • That's it I think :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:29, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
MPGuy2824
  • In the table you can remove the SC column since it has no data.
    • The SC column is for a new annual tournament that will begin in a few weeks' time. It is expected to be a regular and major event, so I think it warrants its own column.
  • Italics seems to be for an ongoing competition, but it is used in the 2020 season's row.
    • Removed.
  • The Div cells can be merged since they have been in the same Division since their inception. Ditto for the League column.
    • These are standard across soccer lists due to other leagues employing promotion and relegation. There is also a chance that the table could be transcluded into History of professional soccer in Seattle, which would also include the lower-division women's teams in the area.
  • Sorting the CC column in descending order should show SF, the QF, then GS, right?
  • Similar issue with the result column for the other competitions. Also, I think you can replace "W" with "1st", for consistency with the "Position" column.
    • These are sorted similar to other soccer lists for simplicity, since the sort anchor is by the number of teams remaining at each stage of the competition (e.g. 01 for winning, 04 for semifinals, 08 for quarterfinals).
  • That's all I have. Please ping me here when you reply. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @MPGuy2824: just chipping in to say that I personally would disagree with I think you can replace "W" with "1st", for consistency with the "Position" column. Teams are never said to have finished "first" in a single-elimination competition, only in one which is league/round-robin based.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:49, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    True. I've striken out that point. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:17, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man im josh

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Source review: Passed

  • Reliable enough for the information being cited
  • Consistent date formatting
  • Consistent and proper reference formatting
  • Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
  • Spot checks on 14 sources match what they are being cited for

Feedback:

  • Consider adding the {{Use mdy dates|July 2024}} template to the top of the article under the short description in case anybody else adds references later on and they are not as careful as you've been
    • Added.
  • I think the position column could be titled better. Is it their division placement, their placement in the regular season, what is this?
    • Added tooltip description.
  • Several of the cells in the total column should probably be combined and greyed out, or at least greyed out to indicate they aren't going to be filled, such as the playoffs, CC, SC, and "other" columns. They're not really a good thing to try to summarize the "total" of at that location.
    • Grayed out most of the columns.
  • Do the statistics included in the table include all playoff statistics as well? I'm not sure how it works in soccer stat tracking, which is why I'd like to know about this.
    • Playoffs are not counted in the main table, per international norms that treat them as secondary competitions.
  • Is the intent, should the Reign finish last in a season, to list their position as "last", or to list the actual placement number? If it's not the text "last", then
    • Removed, as hopefully it won't ever need to be used. It was a holdover from tables that indicate promotion and relegation, which is very unlikely to be implemented anytime soon in NWSL.
  • Is there any reason that Rapinoe islisted ahead of Balcer in the 2022 row? I believe we typically order alphabetically by last name in instances of ties
    • Rapinoe had more assists, so she is listed first in FBref; this is a pretty common tiebreaker when determining the Golden Boot winner for many leagues.
  • Have you always only wikilinked on first mention of a source in references? You're consistent in doing so here, for the most part. I obviously prefer to link everytime, since references get added and changed, but I was just seeking clarity before my next comment
    • Either wikilink more than the first occurence, or
    • Ref 27 – Remove link to Sports Reference
      • Removed. I prefer to only link the first instance in citations.
  • Refs 1, 2, 4, 6 – Add a subscription needed tag, I'm assuming you have a Seattle Times subscription given your interests :P
    • Added a limited tag, as the paywall usually allows for some free articles.
  • Refs 14 and 27 – I believe the convention would be to change "FBref" to FBref.com and wikilink in 14 but not 27
    • Added.

Please ping me when the above issues have been addressed. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:34, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @SounderBruce, as it seems like they didn't see this comment yet. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hey man im josh: All comments addressed. Thanks for the review. SounderBruce 23:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Brindille1
  • "The team has the fourth-highest average attendance among NWSL franchises with 13,609 spectators per match" - Should make this clear that it's the highest average for a single season.
    • Added.
  • The prose and the "Key to competitions" should explain the NWSL Fall series
    • Added.
  • "A concurrent cup tournament, the NWSL Challenge Cup" - What is this concurrent with? Also, this tournament has restructured and the prose should mention that
    • Added.
  • The "Key to competitions" should include The Women's Cup
    • Added.
  • In "Key to cup record", NH, DNE, QR, PR Ro16, and Ro32 are unused and can be removed (Ro32 and R16 are also out of order).
    • The key would be incomplete without a full set, so I don't think it would be worth removing them. Fixed the order of the rounds.
  • It seems unnecessary to include the League and especially the Div. The club plays in the same league and there's no pro/rel
    • As explained above, it is to maintain consistency across other soccer lists and allow for future transclusion.
  • I don't see the playoff results on the FBREF page that's been cited
  • The source for Rapinoe's 51 goals doesn't indicate that she's the club's all-time leading scorer.
    • Added a source.

Brindille1 (talk) 13:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Brindille1: Thanks for the review. I have addressed your comments and made changes to the list. SounderBruce 06:28, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Brindille1 (talk) 02:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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