Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elive (3rd nomination)

Elive

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Third time. Too much self-published junk with a few (pay for pub?) sources. Every 3+/- years they try again: As before, "only significant coverage appears to be from e-magazines. Much of the content appears to be promotional." Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Elive and Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Elive_(2nd_nomination) Yae4 (talk) 12:20, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Yae4 (talk) 12:20, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
• Comment: All the content was copied from HandWiki, which is released under a CC-by-SA 3.0 license. — Diannaa (talk) 12:48, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

  @Diannaa Can you check if the current page is the same as the one that got deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elive (2nd nomination)? Nobody (talk) 13:28, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

  I already did -it does not match the version deleted in 2019 or in 2016 either. — Diannaa (talk) 13:45, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

• Delete - The article was last deleted in 2019, and while there are some post-2019 sources added that warrant examination, they don't show notability for the article's subject. The only thing that has changed since 2019 are routine blog posts including Medium, which per WP:MEDIUM isn't a reliable source. LinuxInsider reviews don't show notability because that site makes a point to review anything and everything that they can as far as Linux distros, so being reviewed doesn't show anything other than the fact that the distro exists. When you take WP:AUD into account (as this article falls under WP:NORG), it further cements the fact that those niche blogs and other sources don't show notability for this article's subject. Notability wise, nothing has changed since the previous AfD. - Aoidh (talk) 15:52, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

  I think you underestimate what 'LinuxFormat', 'LinuxJournal' and 'Linux-Magazine' represent. They were (and still are) the most reliable/notable (e-magazines AND print versions) sources in regard to Linux in Europe and the USA.

  If these are serious criteria to propose deletion ..... then WP might as well delete 9/10 Linux distributions, including those that you (@Aoidh) have associated yourself with.

  Could it be that you have a 'conflict of interest' (COI) here? Triantares (talk) 20:21, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

• Comment - I wasn't aware of the other draft, with a few more failed AfC's in 2020 and 2021, which Triantares just came out of a 2.5 year sleep mode to request undelete, and blanked. -- Yae4 (talk) 21:08, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

  Totally correct. I requested an 'undelete' to retrieve lost content and blanked it with a comment as to why I did so...the submission itself was misnamed and irrelevant. Alas WP is not very clear on how to self-delete a draft other than wait out for it to be removed.

  As to you marking multiple references with 'self published?': You are so obviously wrong that I wonder if you even made an effort to open and look through them. Adding a question mark does not remove the responsibility for the suggestion made there.

  The same goes for your "came out of 2,5 year sleep mode" comment above:

  What I do with my time and when, is none of your business and it is certainly not up to you to use that as any sort of argument or qualification. Triantares (talk) 21:56, 26 May 2023 (UTC)