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Software[edit]

Phoenix Object Basic[edit]

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Fails WP:NSOFT Mfixerer (talk) 08:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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- Delete: Available sources appear to be primary documentation, press releases, or copies of this article. It doesn't seem significant enough to pass WP:NSOFT. Ligaturama (talk) 09:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Setuptools[edit]

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Was nominated via proposed deletion for the reason "None of the included references appear to be significant coverage from a reliable source." PROD was removed with the rationale "irrespective of WP:USEFUL, my recollection is notability is lowered for open-source? No time for source hunting so if convinced, please take to AfD, but would be a shame" So, the person doing the removal thinks it would be a shame, thinks there might be some sort of carve-out of notability standards for open-source software, but can't be bothered to verify that or to look for better sourcing. I don't think any of those are valid reasons to decline a nomination, but that's how PROD works so here we are. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 18:09, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nox (platform)[edit]

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Speedy was just declined (courtesy @Jeraxmoira and Let'srun:, so we're here. It's a copy paste from the source which was present in the first version so there's nothing to revert to and no indication the text was released under an applicable license. I'm unable to find sufficient sourcing on which to build even a stub following rev del. Star Mississippi 19:30, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: There seems to be a lot of reliable sources on this subject when searched for "Nox" platform SDN on google books, scholar and I believe the platform was/is used widely. If someone can ping a subject matter expert, it would be useful to evaluate the sources. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Open value network[edit]

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Unsourced, term doesn't seem widely used. The article is entirely unreferenced and I can't find any indication it's increased in notability since the previous deletion in 2017. The deletion reasons from then still seem to apply. JaggedHamster (talk) 11:27, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: per nom. Also a bit promotional in tone but not enough for G11 '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 12:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
delete Besides all the above it reads as though it had been created by a buzz phrase generator. Mangoe (talk) 16:44, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: This article seems to be in the same boat as the previous deletion attempt in 2017. There are no sources listed, and I can't find any evidence the topic has become more well-known since then. Waqar💬 19:10, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom fails WP:GNG. Few sources [1], [2] (primary, non-indi), ISO/IEC 15944-15 (primary, per article). Widefox; talk 11:53, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I agree with the comment from the previous AfD that it seems a marketing tagline for Sensorica that didn't really take off. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 01:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Emmanuel Mogenet[edit]

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Was likely created by WP:COI subject. Unclear notability from WP:BIO. Brief mention of subject in RS doesn't pass WP:GNG. Morbidthoughts (talk) 08:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Source analysis: 1. Bilanz (Handelsblatt) is likely sigcov but, as a trade magazine, may be paid. 2. Telegraph has less than one sentence of coverage about him, not sigcov. 3. Le Monde has only quotes, zero sigcov. 4. Wired Italy mentions his name a whopping 15 times, but has no sigcov of him or his biography, only quotes. 5. Le Temps (link is broken, the article can be found here) also only mentions him, no sigcov.

Since this is a COI creation I will not bother to search for other sources. If another editor with more patience than me finds enough new sources to meet the GNG, ping me and I'll reconsider. Toadspike [Talk] 14:39, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As per what's written above, especially the bit about COI creation MaskedSinger (talk) 15:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: This subject fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:GNG. In-depth coverage by multiple unrelated sources indicating encyclopedically WP:DUE biographical prose appears absent. WP:COI concerns are well-founded, but merely explain this article's existence. If the subject were notable, the article would merit a rewrite from scratch by someone who is not the subject. JFHJr (㊟) 00:09, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: This article seems like it's about someone who isn't quite famous enough yet to justify a whole page. Waqar💬 18:24, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TokenEx[edit]

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Article fails to establish notability under WP:NCORP.

References include: - Two local news articles (Tulsa World, The Oklahoman) - Two trade press article (PYMNTS, SatelliteTODAY) - One press release (PRNewswire)

Most coverage is brief and concerns partnerships with other companies. Brandon (talk) 23:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete' there appears to be no independent coverage in the article. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:16, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

EdgeX Foundry[edit]

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Fails GNG, no reliable sources BoraVoro (talk) 08:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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OpenSilver Framework[edit]

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Fails WP: N. The Krill article is routine coverage, and the rest of the sources are closely affiliated with Userware or aren't reliable. This was dePRODed without any sourcing improvements. HyperAccelerated (talk) 20:53, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Redirecting and/or merging to Microsoft Silverlight is an AtD that I'm comfortable with. HyperAccelerated (talk) 20:55, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi @HyperAccelerated,

Can you please explain how the most relevant online sources related to software development, such as InfoQ, Visual Studio Magazine, InfoWorld, and SD Times, could be close to Userware? Can you please tell me what you would expect as a source? If I add all the articles written about OpenSilver in the past years, will it increase the relevance according to you? The complete functional source of the framework is on GitHub, with visible contributions from tens of developers and requests from tens of people (I assume representatives of various organizations and individuals who use the framework) for improvements noted under the GitHub issues. OpenSilver is a relevant solution for many organizations trying to find a solution for their Microsoft Silverlight (already discontinued technology) legacy solutions, and it's free and open source. How is it not worth being part of Wikipedia when some of the most relevant online magazines write about its development and growth over the years? Vasbu (talk) 08:31, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't find any credentials for David Ramel when I first nominated the article. I took a second look, and it appears he's been writing about technology for awhile at this point. I'll consider him a reliable source then. I'll withdraw if you come forth with another source to establish notability, because notability generally requires multiple sources. On the other hand, the number of contributors and pull requests has not, is not, and will never be a metric for notability. Please keep the discussion about sourcing. HyperAccelerated (talk) 19:05, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HyperAccelerated, are you satisfied with the sources brought up below? -- asilvering (talk) 18:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You also really should not be creating articles about subjects that you have a disclosed conflict of interest with. HyperAccelerated (talk) 17:15, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the prompt reply @HyperAccelerated.

Aside from Visual Studio Magazine and David Ramel, please find the following list of sources:

InfoQ - It has been one of the most relevant online sources for software development topics since 2006. InfoQ team started following OpenSilver in 2020 and covered several releases of OpenSilver (I assume whenever they identified interest according to their editorial strategy). The writers covering OpenSilver topics are Edin Kapic, a Microsoft MVP based in Barcelona, Spain, and Arthur Casals, an AI Researcher with a Ph.D.
InfoWorld - It is one of the trusted sources of information related to open-source, application development, cloud computing, and other IT-related topics. InfoWorld has also covered OpenSilver, with a few news articles from the past 3-4 years. The OpenSilver-related articles are written by Paul Krill, an editor with 30+ years of experience in InfoWorld Media Group. InfoWorld is a part of the Foundry umbrella along with CIO, CSO, Computer World, Mac World, PC World, and others. They explicitly say they don't accept contributing articles to collect visits and publicity.
I Programmer was founded by Mike James, an editor-in-chief and author of books. I Programmer published a series of articles about OpenSilver in the past years. Besides Mike James other authors covered the articles related to OpenSilver including Alex Denham and Kay Ewbank.
Ghacks - a tech postal has 2 articles about OpenSilver. The author of the articles is Martin Brinkmann.
Kurt Shintaku's blog - Kurt Shintaku is a Client Technology Lead at Microsoft, working for about 30 years in the corporation. He found an interest in OpenSilver in the early days when OpenSilver was beta. He recognized OpenSilver as a suitable solution for owners of Microsoft Silverlight-based solutions when Microsoft announced the end of support.
The Register - The article was written by Tim Anderson, a journalist who covers various technical topics.
Matt Eland's Blog - Kill all defects - Matt Eland is a US-based Microsoft MVP in AI interested in OpenSilver as an open-source technology for replacing MS Silverlight. Obviously, he was motivated in 2020 to write about it in his blog. He is a blogger, book, and course author.
AlternativeTo.org - it has been recognized as an alternative or in a way successor of MS Silverlight.
Distributed Memory Blog was created by an independent software developer Steve Gilham who wrote a series of tech articles related to OpenSilver.

Vasbu (talk) 14:36, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please find one more source:

Root.cz - In 2021 Petr Krčmář was writing about OpenSilver, recognizing a potential solution in it for those who have custom developed applications based on MS Silverlight.

Vasbu (talk) 12:44, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spider's Web Portal - The Polish online magazine Spider's Web published an article about OpenSilver written by Hubert Thaler - an software engineer and manager with 25+ years experience in the domain. He wrote 1000+ articles for the portal.

Vasbu (talk) 13:47, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Heise online - An article written by Holger Schwichtenberg, German author of computer books.

Vasbu (talk) 14:24, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Le Monde Informatique - One of the leading IT news websites in France. It covers software development, IT infrastructure, cybersecurity, and digital transformation. The site is known for its in-depth articles and industry analysis. They re-published the article by Paul Krill, originally written and published on InfoWorld. Jean Elyan (respected journalist with 25+ years of experience working for companies such as IDG Communications) adopted the French version of the article.

Vasbu (talk) 09:27, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - OpenSilver is the defacto open-source successor to Microsoft's Silverlight framework. [3], [4]. It has independent coverage in notable industry publications including Visual Studio Magazine and InfoWorld. GobsPint (talk) 19:44, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep significant coverage is present, nothing seems to be wrong with WP:GNG either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vorann Gencov (talk • contribs) 15:53, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notcoin[edit]

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Procedural nomination per WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 11#Notcoin, as the redirect target of Telegram (software), or any other target, was not found suitable. The page had been moved to draftspace on the day of its creation, as not ready for mainspace, however the creator had rejected the draftification. Jay 💬 06:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Telegram: Significant coverage in BBC Pidgin and likely in the non-English articles as well (which I cannot read). Telegram article is long but could easily accommodate a short section on the game, which seems to have drawn attention. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:26, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete what is this? A game? A crypto-coin? A ponzi scheme? The sources don't say (and are largely about a related game called "Hamster Combat"), which demonstrates that there is insufficiently substantial coverage. Walsh90210 (talk) 18:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I am opposed to a redirect to Telegram (software). If this content were on the Telegram article, I would remove it as WP:UNDUE and inherently somewhat promotional. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:59, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The Persian article has همستر کامبت (Hamster Kombat) as the article subject: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%87%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B1_%DA%A9%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A8%D8%AA Hamster Kombat and Notcoin seem like they are separate crypto games on Telegram? From machine translation and the images, the sources cited in the English article, like this one, appear to be about Hamster Kombat or crypto games in general, not about Notcoin. For a redirect, Telegram (software) seems an appropriate target. I'll abstain from voting, though, because I can't read most of the coverage on these games. Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 02:24, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to The Open Network (TON). The Persian-language sources seem to be primarily about a hamster-related game of a different name that employs the Notcoin/"Natcoin" token. But I'm not seeing WP:SIGCOV for Notcoin itself, at least not in sources that clear WP:NCRYPTO; however, WP:TRADES sources ([5], [6]) do show evidence that it's a major game/token on TON, so as an AtD that redirect makes sense. Like Walsh90210 I would oppose a redirect to Telegram. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:27, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Yet more unimportant cryptotrash. Nate • (chatter) 16:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lybrate[edit]

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Unable to find a news which is not a PR. Funding, launches, and announcements are all they have. Even the creator came only to create the page. Lordofhunter (talk) 04:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: per nom. also look like an advertisement! Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 16:54, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: One source that doesn't look like an ad: this one. So at least one source of significant coverage. The other articles could have been paid for, but might not all be: even if they sound ad-like, they could still be reliable coverage: we don't know. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:41, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Main problem in this AFD is that it is unclear whether the articles are paid or not. If they are not, obviously Keep because it has an enormous amount of coverage, but if (given what the Reliable Sources Noticeboard says about unreported sponsored business content in Indian news) we just use the non-Indian business news sources, I think it likely has to be a Delete because I don't see many of those. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mrfoogles You are again sharing the funding related link from the source whose reliability is questionable as per WP:RSPSS I can't see any research done by a journalist. Lordofhunter (talk) 08:01, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, there is significant coverage of the company that passes WP:GNG. The suggestion that some of the sources are likely to be paid for or sponsored posts without clear evidence of such should not be the reason to delete. Ednabrenze (talk) 06:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, just barely. Despite 38 references, almost all of them would be excluded for WP:NCORP purposes under WP:ORGTRIV, WP:NEWSORGINDIA or WP:TRIVIALMENTION. However, this Forbes India staff-authored print magazine story, this cover story in The Week, and this Financial Express story clear the bar for WP:SIGCOV in WP:SIRS. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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