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Can I request you lift the 'soft delete' as I addressed the original request for deletion by @DoubleGrazing and left comments for them but did not hear back. I have made many changes to the article since the original mark for deletion and believe it is very much inline with other articles such as Blackadder (whisky bottler) Adelphi Whisky and more. I believe the article is worth inclusion. (Simonspier82 (talk) 02:26, 18 December 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Potentially problematic user?

Hi BradV, not sure if this is an issue but the user TIggI140 seems to be making some potentially POV pushing problematic edits. They've received three warnings, not sure what the appropriate step would be to take for this. Aza24 (talk) 05:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't want to help, fine, just tell me. You're the 3rd admin I've reached out to about something who has either ignored me, or said that they "don't have time to help". Frankly, the later is preferable. Aza24 (talk) 00:37, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Aza24, have you tried discussing this with TIggI140? That should be your first recourse. – bradv🍁 17:11, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't earlier since the user had been warned four times but I have done so now, thanks. Thank you also for courteously ignoring my rather rude comment – apologies for that, it was an unfair thing to say. I'll keep you updated on this situation. Best - Aza24 (talk) 00:58, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Brad, the user in question seems to have ignored my comment on their talk page, been warned a fourth time by another user, and continued making unsourced problematic edits about ethnicities. Aza24 (talk) 08:34, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol December Newsletter

Hello Bradv,

A chart of the 2020 New Page Patrol Queue

Year in review

It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.

Rank Username Num reviews Log
1 DannyS712 bot III (talk) 67,552 Patrol Page Curation
2 Rosguill (talk) 63,821 Patrol Page Curation
3 John B123 (talk) 21,697 Patrol Page Curation
4 Onel5969 (talk) 19,879 Patrol Page Curation
5 JTtheOG (talk) 12,901 Patrol Page Curation
6 Mcampany (talk) 9,103 Patrol Page Curation
7 DragonflySixtyseven (talk) 6,401 Patrol Page Curation
8 Mccapra (talk) 4,918 Patrol Page Curation
9 Hughesdarren (talk) 4,520 Patrol Page Curation
10 Utopes (talk) 3,958 Patrol Page Curation
Reviewer of the Year

John B123 has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.

NPP Technical Achievement Award

As a special recognition and thank you DannyS712 has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.

Six Month Queue Data: Today – 2262 Low – 2232 High – 10271

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18:17, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Notepad.js suggestion

Hi. Can I suggest declaring the CSS for your script in a separate css file? It has the added benefit of adding syntax highlighting for the CSS. Just a thought. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 03:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DannyS712, thanks for the suggestion. I'll see if I can work that in to the next update. Hope you like the script. – bradv🍁 14:38, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Block Request

Hi, Bradv! We've met once before, I was one of your supporters for ACE2020. Anyway, I was investigating Wikipedians looking for help, and I came across this. According to @Exxcalibur808, This IP has been disruptively editing the page List of FIDE chess world number ones, and as you can see from the hyperlink labeled "This IP", since December 2018 this is the only page that this "user" has edited. Exxcalibur808 suggested that the IP be blocked. They also pointed out that this may be a robot. I'll keep an eye on this page for any replies. I also tagged Exxcalibur because I thought that they might be able to give you a firsthand account of what's been going on. Thanks! Dswitz10734 (talk) 12:20, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dswitz10734, I recommend citing a source for the data. That's the best way to determine which version is correct. – bradv🍁 14:44, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent CANSANFRANBANFRAM RfD close

Hi Brad, I'm sure you meant well, but this edit of yours caught my attention. I don't see that the discussion needed to be speedy closed, and I don't think 4thfile4thrank needed to be slapped down for not knowing something. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:07, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest 4thfile4thrank needs more than being slapped down - they're charging head first into a CIR indefinite block right now. I've just been tidying up more of their 'work'. They desperately and urgently need to slow down and to ask others what things are, if what they're doing is sensible and if there's anything they can learn. Nick (talk) 15:13, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nick, Hmmm, I just read their talk page. I see what you mean. Carry on. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:37, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bradv. Regarding this close - there is a clear consensus to delete all, and an actual notice on the page is not a strict requirement for deletion as far as I am aware (though I welcome correction on this). The author of the pages was notified about the deletion. Alternatively could we not relist the discussion, with the requirement that AFD notices are added to the articles rather than ask everyone to go through the rigmarole of re-voting again?

We are dealing with a problem of many thousands of such articles. Mass-nomination, with checks on each article of course, is the only way it can feasibly be cleared. Asking people to vote and re-vote on thousands of such articles, all of which have essentially the same problems (fail WP:GEOLAND due to use of bad/misrepresented sources) is an obvious non-starter. FOARP (talk) 10:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FOARP, is there a full list of these pages compiled somewhere? I think we can probably do a mass-nomination of all of them, but we should have a full list of articles before the discussion begins. The ones you added to that AfD were just the ones beginning with A–D. – bradv🍁 17:46, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Bradv - Unfortunately there is no full listing though of course I could (given enough time) create one. The editor who created all these articles is one of the most prolific (in terms of articles created) editors on Wiki, and their edit-count greatly exceeds the maximum number of edits that can be handled by the article-creation tracking tool. I just nom'd A-D as a trial-run to see if it would gain acceptance as other editors working on the clean-up project doubted that it would be accepted as they're used to people arguing that articles should be kept based on GNIS cites (despite GNIS apparently being unreliable at least for this kind of data). Even just collecting A-D was several hours work as it meant going through the California ghost-town list and identifying one-by-one the stub articles that were created relying only on the two sources (Durham and GNIS) that we know to be problematic. If you have a look at Carlossuarez46's talk page you can get a feel for the scale of the problem - nearly 400 AFD nominations and PRODs already, but this has taken several editors a month to do and we're probably only about 10% of the way through this mess. Mass deletion of the worst offending articles as WP:TNT is the only way through this that makes sense and won't clog up AFD. FOARP (talk) 18:18, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Bradv, had a chance to give this another look? FOARP (talk) 19:34, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what you want me to do. If you want all these articles deleted, make a group nomination listing them all. It will have to account for all the edge-cases such as those that are mentioned in the above discussion, but provided people take the time to do a proper investigation it should be an effective way of handling this — far better than tacking them onto an existing AfD. – bradv🍁 21:09, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Could you add more rationale to your closure? As you know, this is not a vote. I think the keep arguments are very weak and almost all have been challenged. If you find the challenges not valid, please explain. The article has almost zero content that's not in-universe, the argument that 'it is better' because it now has a one-sentence receptions section are hardly convincing or policy-based. At the very least, I think this should be relisted further. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:30, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The majority of those who commented favoured keeping the article. While there are good arguments presented on both sides of the discussion, there simply isn't a consensus in that discussion. I don't see any way that keeping the discussion open longer would result in a consensus to delete, given the large number of people who already commented, and the fact that the only !votes after the last relist were against deletion. Relisting simply isn't going to change the outcome, in my opinion. – bradv🍁 21:19, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there Bradv. Thanks for your review, I'll keep working on the article and try to add more reliable sources to it if there are any. Any other feedback is very welcome.

Beethoven 250 years

Beethoven in 1803

The birthday display! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 19

User:Bradv/Scripts/Notepad.js

Great script and really like the preview feature. However, I have a little suggestion about Recent Notes tab; as I use the script globally, is it possible to see notes from all wikis at the same place? If not maybe just from some big wikis. Thanks ‐‐1997kB (talk) 12:25, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1997kB, the data for the notepad is stored in mw.user.options, which is only accessible for the current wiki. Retrieving the options data from another wiki requires logging into it first, so to do this by script would require at least 2 additional server requests for each of the 700 wikis. So no, this would not be feasible. – bradv🍁 15:56, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Endless contributions script

For anyone who happens to be watching this page, I wrote a new script: User:Bradv/endlesscontribs. Let me know what you think. – bradv🍁 23:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bradv, why would someone be watching this page? Is something exciting going to happen? Natureium (talk) 23:06, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Natureium, if you were watching this page waiting for something exciting to happen, this is it. Try the script. – bradv🍁 00:38, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oh my god, this is something I've been waiting for so long! Thank you so much! — Yours, Berrely (🎅 Ho ho ho! 🎄) • TalkContribs 14:36, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Need help on Draft:Fethi Meskini

Hello Bradv. Thank you for taking the time to review the submission of Draft:Fethi Meskini. I need your assistance to fix the issues you found.

Your comment was "In order to establish notability, we need sources that are independent of the subject, not things written by the subject. Where are the sources for the biographical details"

As Fethi Meskini is an author - and since the article speaks extensively about his philosophical theories - it is legitimate to use his own books as source for most of the material in the article. As for the biographical details, I am not sure which you think lack sources, but I'm eager to bring them to the best of my abilities.


WajdMeskini (talk) 11:17, 23 December 2020 (UTC) Wajd Meskini[reply]