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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 July 2023

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Change death toll from 218 to 260. Here is the source from The Public Source documenting this number: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YmZYFNoVxbWT9Tieguaa9NCJyk2LMqYXEj2aNjyJ12M/edit?pli=1#gid=1157267531 SupportOpenSource (talk) 16:57, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: Do we have a better source than a spreadsheet on docs.Google.com? Sam Sailor 17:20, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/3-years-after-beirut-port-blast-political-intrigue-foils-prosecutions-and-even-the-death-toll-is-disputed

A death toll of "218, possibly more" or "at least 218" might be better. Swesbed (talk) 02:48, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vijayakanth (Indian Actor and Politician) Cause Of Death

Vijayakanth Cause of Death is not only Pneumonia and COVID - 19, It is mainly because of Lung Failure (due to aging) that the doctors needed to provide him pulmonary support throughout his hospital admission .[1] VarunRajaR (talk) 12:30, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The main cause of his death was his immunity decreasing due to aging and he was exposed to a variety of diseases over the last 5 years VarunRajaR (talk) 12:31, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We have to complete this topic as fast as we could because Mr. VIJAYAKANTH DIED JUST 3 DAYS BACK. VarunRajaR (talk) 12:33, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You should head to Vijayakanth if you want to discuss this. Recon rabbit 17:08, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Death toll dispute

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/3-years-after-beirut-port-blast-political-intrigue-foils-prosecutions-and-even-the-death-toll-is-disputed

A death toll of "218, possibly more" or "at least 218" might be better. Swesbed (talk) 19:39, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 July 2024

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Shielding role of the Beirut port silos

Speculation emerged about the role of the port silos in shielding western Beirut from the blast. Zéhil (2024) [1] leveraged insights from previous research and developed a customized blast wave propagation model to address the debate on the silos' effectiveness in mitigating blast impacts. The analysis challenged prevailing assumptions: first, that the silos provided substantial protection, and second, that the transient "window" in the Wilson condensation cloud, observed on video recordings of the explosion and interpreted as a "shadow" of the silos' structure, constituted a safe region in the Beirut sky.

The study revealed that, contrary to expectations, the pressure at the shock front remained continuous, including ahead of the opening in the Wilson cloud. In other words, a bird flying in front of this window would have incurred the same fate as another facing the cloud: both would have been hit by the invisible shock wave preceding the Wilson cloud.

Although significant attenuation in blast intensity was observed close behind the silos, this shielding effect diminished with distance, with the blast wave intensity largely restored 450 meters behind the silos. The silos' shadowing effect was thus limited to nearby port structures and part of the Lebanese navy base, which still suffered severe damage due to the blast's large yield. The lesser impact on western Beirut was attributed to its greater distance from the explosion rather than the silos' protective influence.

[1] Zéhil, G.-P. Investigating the blast shielding effect of the Beirut silos. Shock Waves 34, 227–235 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1007/s00193-024-01189-y. GPZ76 (talk) 18:10, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a lot of information attributed to a primary source by one person in a journal of vague prominence that has been cited very few times. I'd wait to include this information until there's secondary reporting on it or a review that includes this article is published. Recon rabbit 14:15, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: per above McYeee (talk) 06:00, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would argue that the research was done and the knowledge created. It was peer-reviewed by experts in the field and published in Shock Waves: a scientific journal published by Springer, which is furthermore quite highly regarded in this particular area. The author has previous works in the field of shock-wave/structure interactions. Lastly, the Wikipedia article on the 2020 Beirut port explosion already cites other works published in Shock Waves. This is not consistent with its qualification as "a journal of vague prominence." This said, sharing the new knowledge is up to you, it seems... GPZ76 (talk) 18:21, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One more argument in favor of making the requested change is that the Wikipedia article also refers to claims, such as [15], that were proven wrong by this research. GPZ76 (talk) 18:27, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]