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June 23, 2019Good article nomineeListed
February 26, 2020Good topic candidatePromoted
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Reviewer: AhmadLX (talk · contribs) 15:36, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I will review this.AhmadLX-)¯\_(ツ)_/¯) 15:36, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Earwig's clear
  • Streck is unused.
  • Also Kennedy 2004.
  • For Hawting 1986 you have pages and link of 2000 edition. Please update this. Also link points to p. 53. Please change it to book info page.
  • Dixon would be good addition to bibliography.

@AhmadLX: I’ve addressed the above points. Thanks for the Dixon suggestion ;) —Al Ameer (talk) 20:06, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Al Ameer son:Thanks for addressing the points. A few more follow:
  • Muhallab did not refuse to go to Maskin. He had been fighting Azriqa for several months continuously when he received the news of Abd al-Malik's advance on Iraq.
  • Wasn't Jufriya revolt in 690? Both Wellhausen and Dixon mention various sources that give year 689, but they themselves both mention it have occurred in second campaign in 690.
  • As often with the chronology of the period, there is apparent confusion in the sources. Dixon notes that Abu Mikhnaf, al-Mada'ini, both generally considered reliable, and al-Mubarrad and apparently Wahb ibn Jarir as well say 689. Abu Mikhnaf (and/or al-Waqidi) says it coincided with the attempted coup of al-Ashdaq in Damascus, which was in 689. From my reading, Dixon isn't necessarily indicating that the Jufriyya revolt happened during the second campaign, while Wellhausen, using one account recorded in al-Tabari, does before going on to say, according to another account in al-Tabari, that the Jufriyya revolt had already occurred in the year prior. I'd stick with 689, but I can add "or 690" to cover our bases. What do you suggest? --Al Ameer (talk) 18:21, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thats the issue. But no big deal. Its upto you. I would have preferred mentioning that it may well have happened in 690.
  • Please remove these 3 "according to"s, none of them is necessary: Tabari quotes Mus'ab words, so it is not according to Tabari. Ibrahim's death deciding Mus'ab's death is plain fact; citation is enough. "ordered his poets to commemorate his heroic end" is also a report that Lammens presents. AhmadLX-)¯\_(ツ)_/¯) 16:39, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I rephrased Wellhausen quote. Regarding Lammens, I realized later it contains "heroic end", which definitely needs to be attributed. AhmadLX-)¯\_(ツ)_/¯) 18:43, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the review AhmadLX. And yes, I’m all for working towards a Good topic ;) I don’t have the book, just the thesis. I use the latter and find the corresponding page number in the google books version. —Al Ameer (talk) 22:30, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I also do the same with Dixon ;) Al Ameer son: then Harrah and Harura are yours ;) I will look into Ayn al-Warda and 2nd Mecca. 1st Mecca's main contributor is Cplakidas, don't know if he is interested in this. But it is in good shape and can easily pass GAN with a little work. That will leave only Karbala, which can be done at the end. What do you say? AhmadLX-)¯\_(ツ)_/¯) 18:58, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'd definitely be interested in working towards this goal. Constantine 20:13, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@AhmadLX: Sounds like a plan --Al Ameer (talk) 20:44, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Al Ameer son and Cplakidas: I have done half of my share of work by GANing Ayn al-Warda ;) AhmadLX-)¯\_(ツ)_/¯) 15:28, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@AhmadLX and Al Ameer son: I'll get my copy of Tabari on hand and try to fill any gaps at 1st Mecca over the next few days, and then nominate as well. Constantine 16:29, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@AhmadLX and Cplakidas: Great to hear. Harra and Harura still need a bit of work, but I think I’ll be finished with the former within a week or so. I plan on starting on the Battle of Madhar as well. —Al Ameer (talk) 18:45, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Ayn al-Warda passed GAN, 2nd Mecca GANed, some work on it remaining though. AhmadLX-)¯\_(ツ)_/¯) 23:23, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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