Talk:Laura Trott (politician)

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Discussions:

Not moved, 19 May 2021, to Laura Trott, see discussion.
Not moved, 26 July 2024, to Laura Trott, see discussion.

Requested move 19 May 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved - there is a clear consensus not to move. (non-admin closure) Lennart97 (talk) 13:00, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Laura Trott (politician) → Laura Trott
Laura Trott → ?

– The disambiguation is entirely unnecessary, as there's already a hatnote to the athlete's article. Chessrat ^{(talk, contributions)} 11:09, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Laura Trott titles a page with content and so it must also be dispositioned. If this request is granted, then Laura Trott may be deleted or moved to Laura Trott (disambiguation) and tagged with {{One other topic}} in accordance with WP:ONEOTHER. P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 00:22, 20 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The cyclist was known as Laura Trott for most of her career, and her article gets more pageviews. Google results results are mixed between the cyclist and politician when searching "Laura Trott". The current dab page is justified, as per WP:NOPRIMARY. 162 etc. (talk) 14:27, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:TWODABS, we disambiguate topics, not article titles. For most of the athlete's career, her name was Laura Trott, making disambiguation necessary. Iffy★Chat -- 14:29, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:TWODABS, no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:32, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per 162 etc., Iffy★Chat and Ortizesp. There are 53 inline cites in the athlete's article and virtually all refer to her as "Laura Trott". —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 20:46, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The cyclist was known as Laura Trott for most of her career, and her article gets more pageviews. @Chessrat: suggest you withdraw this RM. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:04, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Kommentar- I'm surprised by all the "oppose" reactions- didn't expect such a move to be controversial at all. Having said that, I still think a move would be a good idea, as most google results and google news results are for the politician, and it seems like the athlete is most commonly known by her married surname. Chessrat ^{(talk, contributions)} 23:12, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment - We are not to be moved by the news, else Jane Seymour's WP:PRIMARYTOPIC would be an actress and not the favourite wife of Henry VIII. If you say the "athlete" is more known by her married surname, go to the section "Major results" on her article, and count how many are before or after her September 2016 wedding. Tip: the 2016 Olympics were a little before. Unknown Temptation (talk) 21:39, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The cyclist is much better known and is probably better known under her maiden name than her married name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:29, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose - The cyclist had Olympic golds at two games, plus a load of other medals, under the name Laura Trott. To bring up a comparison, if Muhammad Ali were still alive, you wouldn't make a politician be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for Cassius Clay just for being the one currently using the name. Unknown Temptation (talk) 21:30, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Requested move 26 July 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) RodRabelo7 (talk) 09:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Laura Trott (politician) → Laura Trott – The current Laura Trott article links to a disambiguation page whereas the former Laura Trott now goes by Laura Kenny. I see the argument above who were against the move, but if you look at it, I can't understand why Laura Trott can't simply be the main article title for this one. When you search up Laura Trott on Google (at least on my end) you get the British politician and not the cyclist since she now goes by Laura Kenny. Wouldn't this mean that that would fall under Wikipedia:COMMONNAME? I feel that having Laura Trott (politician) as the article title is a bit redundant since she's the only Laura Trott with an article and then Laura Trott article is a disambiguation page. Also, the argument above said they were opposed to the move as Laura Trott the cyclist was more accomplished as an Olympian winner, however, if that were the case, how come Laura Trott doesn't redirect to her article, but instead leads to a disambiguation page? I feel since she now goes by Laura Kenny, a simple Laura Trott (cyclist) would suffice. However, since this Laura Trott (politician) is her common name, she should become the main article Laura Trott.

Laura Trott (politician) → Laura Trott
Laura Trott → Laura Trott (disambiguation) or delete

--TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 15:18, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Recent articles are calling Laura Kenny, Laura Kenny, even if The Guardian do need to update their url. Keep the dab page and maybe add hatnotes. YorkshireExpat (talk) 16:30, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. All articles are at their correct titles. Just because Laura Kenny is now known as such, doesn't mean that her notability as Laura Trott disappears. WP:NOPRIMARY. See also the previous RM above, which unanimously opposed the move of the politician to primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 17:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not unanimous this time. Three years is a long time in politics! YorkshireExpat (talk) 07:40, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning oppose per 162. The cyclist is best known for competitions as Laura Trott and has high notability. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 21:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The cyclist was and is more prominent, even under her former name. This article about a minor political figure is not the primary topic. Cambial — foliar❧ 23:54, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This seems like a pointless change. Waqar💬 19:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The cyclist is still too well-known under that name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:49, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.