Talk:List of military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War
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[edit]Hungary: 35 thousand tonnes of diesel fuel / month (MOL - UkrTransNafta agreement) Sources: https://hungarytoday.hu/ukrainian-armor-moves-thanks-to-hungarian-fuel-exports/ https://www.szabadeuropa.hu/a/ukrajna-dizel-mol/32513591.html Gabor vasarus (talk) 09:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Get rid of the notes section since Kosovo has no relevance in this page. Filipisepic (talk) 22:03, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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1. Under the Companies section:
SpaceX is listed as donating StarLinks, but according to https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/spacex-curbed-ukraines-use-starlink-internet-drones-company-president-2023-02-09/ these were not meant as military, but humanitarian, aid. SpaceX claims to have enforced their use to solely humanitarian.
Philip Morris is listed as having donated 500 000 cigarettes. Cigarettes are not military aid.
Amazon is listed as having "Pledged $10 million in aid; using its logistics capability for supplies and cybersecurity expertise.", which also is not military aid.
Please remove them from the list.
2. In the map, several islands that belong to countries that have given aid are grey. Among these, some have a sort of self-governance. A majority don't have military forces or equipment of their own though, and if they do they are part of their country's forces. Military issues are handled at a national level. They should be marked according to their donor countries' aid.
Some examples: The Faroe Islands (Denmark), The Falkland Islands (United Kingdom), New Caledonia (France), Puerto Rico (United States), British Virgin Islands (United Kingdom), Guadeloupe (France), Dutch Caribbean (The Netherlands), and Cayman Islands (United Kingdom).
/2023-05-26 94.255.240.124 (talk) 02:20, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Ad 1: While SpaceX limited their use ind drone's, troops stil use Starlink for communicating which article mentions. Borysk5 (talk) 07:07, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. -Lemonaka 22:37, 28 May 2023 (UTC)- Did you miss Amazon and Philip Morris?
- SpaceX: It still is not military aid.
- It seems likely those three companies are added to give them credit, not to list donors of _military_ aid.
- I don't know how to arrange to reach a vote on Wikipedia, but that method seems good. 94.255.240.124 (talk) 07:00, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- Using Starlink for troops to communicate is definietly a military aid, even if they don't want to call it that way. Borysk5 (talk) 13:16, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
Article needs to be repaired
[edit]We need volunteers to repair the damage caused by Uwdwadafsainainawinfi after this editor's copyright violations and removing properly sourced contents. At the same time, we need to preserve new military aid announcements from the past few weeks. Anyone interested? OhanaUnitedTalk page 13:13, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- Finished cleaning up Spain's copyright violation contents added by Uwdwadafsainainawinfi (who is now permanently blocked). I need assistance for other countries as Spain cleanup alone took me more than 30 mins (and Spain didn't donate a lot). If you cleaned up a country, please note it here to avoid duplication of effort. OhanaUnitedTalk page 03:46, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- Australia was cleaned up by Melbguy05. OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:05, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Country sections that need repair:
AustralienKanada- Denmark (partially repaired)
Finnland- Deutschland
- Italien
JapanLitauenLuxemburgMontenegroNiederlande- Norway (partially repaired)
- Poland (partially repaired)
- Slowakei
SpanienSchweden
OhanaUnitedTalk page 00:42, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- I've updated list today based on repair status. OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Request for addition for Ireland
[edit]Sentence "30 Irish soldiers will participate in training of Ukrainian Armed Forces in demining and clearing ordnance [From May 2023 onwards]." should be updated to reflect that the training includes basic weapons training and leadership.
I suggest rewording as "30 Irish soldiers will participate in training of Ukrainian Armed Forces in basic military skills, leadership training, drill instructor training, combat medicine, demining and explosive disposal. [From Apr 2023 onwards]"
The training is from April and not May. In Apr, mine clearance training was provided in Cyprus. In Jun, combat medic training provided to 51 Ukrainian soldiers in Germany.
I attach the following articles https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3751236-ireland-to-provide-training-for-ukrainian-military.html https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0820/1400682-neutrality/ https://www.thejournal.ie/ukraine-army-training-irish-defence-forces-neutrality-6146360-Aug2023/ https://www.thejournal.ie/irish-troops-eu-ukraine-eumam-6000801-Feb2023/ https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/08/18/irish-troops-to-provide-weapons-training-to-ukraine-despite-governments-non-lethal-assistance-pledge/ https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/07/11/irish-combat-medics-return-from-training-ukrainian-troops-in-germany/
The two Irish Times articles refer to mine clearance equipment. Ireland has two Aardvark mine clearance vehicles which it is considering sending. Perhaps add a "Engineering equipment" section to mention this. Finestat (talk) 18:23, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Finestat Erledigt Panzerpampfpony (talk) 19:52, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Panzerpampfpony: The edit you did that in also contained broken <a> tags that tried to link to two people's "profiles" but ended up just breaking the whole citation. 2603:8001:4542:28FB:4C89:6F75:861F:2F97 (talk) 01:57, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
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- What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}): Bulgaria's contribution to delivering arms to Ukraine
- Why it should be changed: Provide more accurate information
Jet Aircraft
14 Su-25s* [April 2022] (Purchased from Bulgaria by a NATO member state and delivered to Ukraine)
Tanks
T-72M1s* [Before May 2022] (Purchased by Czechia from Bulgaria and delivered to Ukraine)
Multiple Rocket Launchers
122mm BM-21 Grads* [May or June 2022] (Purchased by Czechia from Bulgaria and delivered to Ukraine)
Self-Propelled Artillery
122mm 2S1 Gvozdikas* [2022] (Purchased by a NATO member state from Bulgaria and delivered to Ukraine)
Towed Artillery
152mm D-20s* [April 2022] (Purchased by Czechia from Bulgaria and delivered to Ukraine)
Mortars
60mm M60CMA Commando Mortars* [Before August 2022]
Armoured Personnel Carriers
100 BTR-60PBs [To be delivered]
Anti-Tank Guided Missiles
9M111MFB-1 Faktorias* [Before August 2022]
Portable Anti-Tank Weaponry
DRTG-73 Rocket Propelled Grenade Launchers* [Before April 2022] ATGL-L Rocket Propelled Grenade Launchers* [Before November 2022] BULSPIKE-AT Rocket Propelled Grenade Launchers* [Summer 2022] Warrior SPG-9 Recoilless Rifles* [Before June 2022]
Small Arms
1460+ MG-1M General-Purpose Machine Guns (GPMGs)* [Before April 2022]
Ammunition
7.62x54mmR Small Arms Rounds* [Before April 2023] GHO-2 HE Hand Grenades* [Before February 2023] OGi-7MA AP-FRAG Rocket Propelled Grenades* [Before August 2022] PG-7VT Tandem Charge HEAT Rocket Propelled Grenades* [Before December 2022] RTB-7MA Thermobaric Rocket Propelled Grenades* [Before February 2022] OG-9M HE Fragmentation Recoilless Rifle Grenades* [Before May 2023] 30mm VOG-17M Grenades For Automatic Grenade Launchers* [Before June 2022] 60mm HE60 MA Mortar Rounds* [Before August 2022] 82mm HE82M Mortar Rounds* [Before February 2023] 80mm ARS-8KOM Unguided Rockets* [Before April 2023] 100mm 3UBK2 HEAT FRAG Anti-Tank Rounds* [Before July 2022] 120mm HE120M Mortar Rounds* [Before August 2022] 122mm Artillery Rounds* [Since July 2022] 152mm Artillery Rounds* [Since April 2022] 155mm Artillery Rounds* [Since March 2023] 122mm Rockets* [Since July 2022]
Military Gear
2000 Helmets [2022] 2000 Bulletproof Vests [2022] 5000 Sets Of Winter Clothing [Late 2022] 5000 Pairs Of Winter Boots [Late 2022] 350 Medical Kits [Late 2022]
Miscellaneous Items
Huge Quantities of Diesel* [Since April 2022]
Technical Support
Repairing Ukrainian Armoured Vehicles And Equipment [Since May 2022]
Training
The Deployment Of 50 Bulgarian Army Soldiers To Train Ukrainian Soldiers [2023] The Training Of Of 60 Ukrainian Combat Medics Annually [Since 2023]
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2023/08/ukraines-armsbasket-how-bulgaria-arms.html
Swiftyhappy (talk) 08:01, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- Adding section header. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:08, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- Deactivating edit request as it's been pending for more than a month and hence it's clear none of the people patrolling this queue are willing to implement it. If some talk pages watcher wants to do so, feel free. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:44, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
References
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Please add a running total to the dollar-amounts. That would make this article MUCH more useful. 199.101.177.19 (talk) 22:34, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:11, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Requested addition to Belgium
[edit]150 of the 240 Volvo Fassi N10 trucks have been delivered from Belgium. This article cites parliamentary documents saying that some of the 80 Iveco LMVs have also been delivered, but not all of them: https://www.forcesoperations.com/en-belgique-falcon-et-buffalo-succedent-aux-vehicules-donnes-a-lukraine/ 82.194.220.91 (talk) 16:34, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Mixing of sovereing and crowdfunded aid
[edit]I see that recently El Roih made a lot of changes to the article, some of which include mixing sovereign aid and crowdfunded aid.
Is mixing of sovereign aid and crowdfuded campaigns the new norm for the article? Cimmerian praetor (talk) 07:47, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
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To change the number of Leopard 2's sent to Ukraine as it is incorrect. Sgtnugg (talk) 17:12, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Change it to what? According to what source? * Pppery * it has begun... 21:44, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 8 October 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Close as no consensus. Discussion fizzled out. No additional participants in the conversation despite multiple relisting. OhanaUnitedTalk page 03:22, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
List of military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War → Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War – The current list format is limiting. The article itself has to try working around it (see section "Military aid planning"). It would make much more sense to write a mostly prose article with lists added in as needed. HappyWith (talk) 19:53, 8 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Jenks24 (talk) 09:36, 25 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 17:12, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
- You would lose a vast majority of the information if you altered the formatting of the article so radically. Some of the national aid efforts is either to numerous or small for a non list summarisation to be viable or necessary, The US and Colombia as respective examples. I believe the change being proposed would be a massive misstep for the preservation of information. A separate article on the chronology of foreign aid being approved and the political situations which has allowed and constrained the donation of military aid makes more sense and wouldn't be at the expense of the information in the current article. Panzerpampfpony (talk) 03:24, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Then would a WP:SPLIT be better? HappyWith (talk) 18:34, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- It would depend, I believe there should absolutely be an exhaustive list of every nation's military aid to Ukraine, having the US, German, Australian etc contributions be on different articles makes no sense. Panzerpampfpony (talk) 20:35, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Then would a WP:SPLIT be better? HappyWith (talk) 18:34, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Request for addition to Belgium
[edit]Belgium will donate an unknown number of f-16 to Ukraine with first deliveries starting around 2025. Sources:
- https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/11/7423587/
- https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/belgium-to-provide-ukraine-with-f-16-fighters-from-2025/3015971
Belgian source (in dutch):
Belgium also helps with training Ukrainian pilots and is in the fighter jet coalition. Waffely (talk) 08:50, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
Request to add Argentina
[edit]Argentina will donate two helicopters under the new administration of Javier Milei.
Source in Spanish: (here) 190.246.97.81 (talk) 12:11, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Argentina donated two helicopters Mi-171E helicopters to Ukraine
[edit]https://www.scramble.nl/military-news/argentina-donates-two-mi-171e-to-ukraine Wikipediow (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Added. Thanks. OhanaUnitedTalk page 19:14, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
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The companies section is a little misleading. First of all, Spacex did not support Ukraine out of goodwill, but received federal funds from the United States. Spacex under Elon Musk also sabotaged multiple Ukrainian missions, which also resulted in personnel loss. 103.210.202.135 (talk) 15:24, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 15:28, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
EU Aid Typo
[edit]Last line in EU Aid is suppoesed to read 225 million€ not 225€ ShotKotaner (talk) 18:16, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Ecuador
[edit]Ecuador will donate 9K33 Osa.
Source in Spanish: (here) Artemis Dread (talk) 19:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
Typo UK monetary aid
[edit]The figure provided for the amount of monetary aid donated by the UK is missing a qualifier (e.g. billion). Merxa (talk) 19:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
They did crowd funding in the UK to buy 101 tracked armored British vehicles, and I don't think I see it listed. It also doesn't list exactly how much of which, just that they're all from the CVR(T) family, and the total number. And the last update I can find says that 24 were delivered last year, but not anything more recent. Source. Harizotoh9 (talk) 21:25, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Demining Equipment from Ireland
[edit]Please add the following section to Ireland
Engineering vehicles
- 2 DOK-ING MV-4 remote controlled mine clearance vehicles [February 2024].
See the following media articles for references
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0226/1434407-taoiseach-paris/
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-defence-forces-providing-vital-equipment-and-training-to-help-ukrainian-troops-clear-mines/a656377779.html Finestat (talk) 18:27, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
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The French ministry of the armed forces have published an official list (link to the list : https://www.defense.gouv.fr/en/news/french-military-equipment-delivered-ukraine ) of military equipment sent to Ukraine between the 24th February 2022 and the 31th December 2023 so we now have a better idea of the military equipment sent by France. I suggest a number of change to take into account these information.
- Change "2 227mm LRU MLRS" to "4 227mm LRU MLRS"
Not done I am not seeing this in the source. It says "Unitary Rocket Launcher: 4" but that's too vague to pertain clearly to this specific stat. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Change "~20 155mm TRF1s" to "6 155mm TRF1s"
- Change "Unknown number of MO-120 RT heavy mortars." to "10 MO-120 RT heavy mortars."
- Change "30 to 40 AMX-10 RCR" to "38 AMX-10 RC"
- Change "~60 VABs" to "250 VABs"
- Change "Renault TRM 10000 Trucks" to "10 Renault TRM 10000 ACH Fuel Trucks"
- Change "Renault GBC 180 all-terrain 6X6 cargo trucks" to "6 Renault GBC 180 all-terrain 6X6 cargo trucks"
- Change "Peugeot P4 off-road vehicles" to "120 Peugeot P4 off-road vehicles"
Not done Given the extra detail that they are "crowfunded by Ukrainian public" saying all 120 were would be synthesis. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Change "Mistral systems" to "6 Mistral systems"
- Change "MILAN systems" to "3 MILAN systems"
- Change "HPD2A2s" to "3600 HPD2A2s"
Not done Source says "Anti-Tank Mine : 3,600", not that all of them are HPD2A2s. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Change "Unknown number of Ground Master 200 radars" to "1 Ground Master 200 radar"
Not done I'm not seeing this in the source - unless a GM200 is the same as a CM200 which is not at all clear to me as someone unfamiliar with military terms. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Change "150 reconnaissance drones purchased from the French company Delair" to "160 reconnaissance drones purchased from the French company Delair"
Not done The source says 160 reconnaissance drones of some sort, nothing about them being ordered from Delair. This would be WP:SYNTH * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Add in the "Small arms" category : "•560 12.7mm machine gun" , "•1,000 Famas Aussault Rifle", "•20 sniper rifle"
- Change "Ammunition of various calibers (12.7mm ammunition, 155mm artillery rounds, etc.)." to "1.1 million ammunition of various calibers (9mm, 5.56 ammunition, etc.)."
- Add in the "Ammunition category" : "•1.74 million 12.7mm ammunition", "•30000 155mm artillery round", "9000 105mm round for AMX10 RC" (the AMX10 RC use specific ammunition)
- Change "OF 37 HE hand grenades" to "10500 OF 37 HE hand grenades"
Not done The source says nothing about the specific brand of grenade, just 10500 grenades generally. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Change "Helmets" to "6200 Helmets"
- Change "Bulletproof vests" to "6500 Bulletproof vests"
- Change "Army medical kits" to "3700 Army medical kits"
- Change "Electro-optical/Infra-red systems (including night detection binoculars ordered from Thales and Safran" to "Electro-optical/Infra-red systems (including 445 night detection binoculars ordered from Thales and Safran"
Not done The source says 445 night vision binoculars of some sort, nothing about them being ordered from Thales and Safran. This would be WP:SYNTH * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Analamed (talk) 10:52, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I suggest separating your suggestions by making each one on a different line or some format other than just a ton of suggestions in one giant paragraph. Shadow311 (talk) 13:53, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Partly done per inline comments. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 March 2024 - Belgium
[edit]The Belgian government has given the green light on Friday for 412 million euros in additional aid for Ukraine. This was announced by Minister of Defense Ludivine Dedonder:
- Transfer of three minesweepers to Ukraine in collaboration with the Netherlands. Belgium to organize basic training for personnel. Netherlands to provide on-the-job training for crews .Maintenance of the ship Narcis before transfer to ensure seaworthiness and usability for training and operations (6 million euros from the Ukraine Fund)
- Purchase of armored ambulances in Benelux cooperation, modernized and transferred to Ukraine
- Joint purchase of reconnaissance drones
- Contribution of 32.9 million euros from the Ukraine Fund
- Delivery of nearly 300 Lynx vehicles Infantry mobility vehicles
- Delivery of artillery ammunition: Partly from Defense stocks, Partly through an international group purchase from various companies
- 373.1 million euros allocated from the Ukraine Fund
Link (Dutch):https://www.hln.be/buitenland/live-oekraine-16-doden-door-russische-raketaanval-op-odesa-extra-belgische-steun-voor-kiev-mijnenjager-gepantserde-ambulances-en-munitie~abf3138b/ Waffely (talk) 18:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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Kosovo has approved to send a second military aid package to Ukraine consisting of mortar rounds. The first military aid package includes military trucks, and armored vehicles. Jimmybowles1 (talk) 12:51, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Source Twitter EjupMaqedonci Jimmybowles1 (talk) 12:52, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 03:01, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
France: 78 Caesar Howitzers
[edit]France announced additional Caesar howitzers will be sent, but from the wording I'm not sure if it means an additional 78 + what has already been delivered, or if they aim for 78 total. APNews. Harizotoh9 (talk) 08:17, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Aid provided
[edit]Under "aid provided" I see this: Philip Morris International; Donated 500,000 packs of cigarettes to the Ukrainian military; 1 March 2022
I mean, seriously, since when is this aid? I would rather call it an attempt, an abuse, to get more people hooked on their product!
Also it would be nice if we could see money-wise which part of all the "aid" was truly given, which part came through lend-lease, and which part also gave an economic impulse to the economy or business of the so-called "beneficiary".
77.60.121.89 (talk) 10:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
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Azerbaijan does not sends military aid to Ukraine - https://tass.com/world/1716465. It should be removed from the list of countries which send aid. 118.232.26.49 (talk) 13:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- TASS is not considered a reliable source per WP:RSP.
- I was able to find an article by Trend News Agency parroting claims by Azerbaijan's Media Development Agency, but I'm unsure if a single article by a pro-government source overrides the five relatively independent ones currently used, one of which provides (supposed) leaked government documents to support its claims.
- That could be just me, though. I'll let another editor make the call. ZionniThePeruser (talk) 21:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Not done It doesn't in my opinion either. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:37, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
can someone find a picture of the billboard outside mike johnsons church
[edit]“For such a time as this,” it read, quoting a Bible verse alongside an image of a damaged Baptist church in Berdyansk, Ukraine. It addressed Johnson by name.
i feel like this is an important image to add to this article NotQualified (talk) 10:22, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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France to provide Mirage 2000 fighter jets to Ukraine
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/france-provide-mirage-2000-warplanes-to-ukraine-macron-says-2024-06-06/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/06/06/ukraine-will-get-ex-french-mirage-2000-5-fighters/ https://www.politico.eu/article/france-fighter-jets-military-aviation-ukraine-emmanuel-macron-kyiv-direct-support-russia-war/ PAWPERSO (talk) 23:30, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lightoil (talk) 22:25, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- The content is already added to the France's section of the list. OhanaUnitedTalk page 20:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Slowenien
[edit]Can somebody please add link for BOV
It is under: Infantry mobility vehicles: Pipi Skoda (talk) 09:23, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Update to Australia
[edit]There was a new aid package announced in April of 2024 but the section says it hasn’t been updated since December 2023 - New package below:
https://www.minister.defence.gov.au/media-releases/2024-04-27/australia-continues-stand-ukraine Maxttck (talk) 10:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
can individual people be added to other parties?
[edit]prominent celebrities, e.g. jake broe, have organised massive amounts in donations NotQualified (talk) 17:14, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
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