Talk:Makedon (mythology)
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Etymology
[edit]According to the online version of Pokorny's etymological dictionary [1], Gr. māk- is not cognate with Latin maximus. There are two distinct roots:
- PIE *māk'- ('long', 'thin'): the root of Gr. māk- in Mākedonia, makro-, Attic mēkos; cognate with Lat. macer ('thin') (whence Engl. emacerated), with Engl. meagre, as well as some other cognates in Hittite and Avestan
- PIE *meg'a- ('big'): the root of Gr. megas, Lat. magnus, Engl. much and other reflexes in most other branches of IE.
Incidentally, even if mak- and maximus had the same root, the current wording of the article, calling the one a "Latinised derivative" of the other, would be wrong; they'd be parallel inherited congnates, not the one a loan of the other. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:10, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- ..your point being? i don't see any mention of Latin or the root max in the article. 150.140.226.79 (talk) 06:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- You need to pay more attention to dates of old discussions. This was a year ago, and it was about a version of the article that then got corrected in this [2] edit. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:11, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- didn't see it. well the and the "adjective δνῶν dnōn, from the verb δνέω dnéō, meaning "of body" or "of physical appearance"." seems correct. 150.140.226.42 (talk) 06:09, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
- True. I also added some explaining from the sources.150.140.226.42 (talk) 06:37, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
later voicing
[edit]Guys you haven't mentioned that the original ethnikon was Μακέτης, Μακετῶν, which survives in the female epigraphically attested Μακέτα and in the Thessalian term Μακετοῦν for "Macedonian". The voicing of /t/ > /d/ was a dialectal feature, like the nearby voicing of /k/>/g/ in Μάγνης containing the same root *mak- and of /p/>/b/ in Περραιβός (< περί-αἶπος). Once the /t/ was voiced into /d/ the interrelation with Μακεδνός was possible, which shares only the root *mak- with Μακέτης. The -εδνός suffix of μακεδνός is a normal adjectival suffix as in πελιδνός = "black" and all the other -δνός Greek adjectives that you can find in LSJ:
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/resolveform?type=end&lookup=dnos&lang=greek —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.48.37.183 (talk) 00:01, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Audio
[edit]i hope i didn't break any rules by entering the pronunciation of the word in Greek. tell me. -CuteHappyBrute (talk) 03:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- RM. Only Apollodorus mentions Mákednos and not MakednósCatalographer (talk) 11:08, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Etymology
[edit]Makednos is a Greek word, and is derived from "makos", like "pelidnos" (from pelino):
Word : " Pelino": Artemisia absinthium (absinthium, absinthe wormwood)
Ancient Greek: pelidnon (pale,-neutral)
Doric Greek : Pellana
Ancient Macedonian: pelinon
Aromanian: piloniou
Ancient Slavic: peline
Bulgaric: pelin
North-Greek dialect: pilinou
Greek-Slavic dialect: pilim
Tsaconic: peli
( Indoeurop. Root : pel )
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.246.234.132 (talk) 12:24, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Thyia or Aithria?
[edit]I am wondering about who the mother of Makedon is according to Marsyas of Pella. He gives the name Αἰθρία (Aithria), but the Wikipedia article itself lists Thyia. It is noted that Αἰθρία (Aithria) may be a corruption of something along the lines of "kai Thyias" but is it possible that this is a different mythological figure? In mythology, Αἴθρα (Aithra) existed and her name means "bright sky" and in ancient Greek αιθρία (aithria) meant "clear sky" and Hesychius tells us of the ancient Macedonian word ἄδραια (adraia) with the same meaning. What is the source that tells us "Αἰθρία" is a corruption for "kai Thyias"? Is there a source for this Αἰθρία existing as a distinct mythological figure? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.2.64.224 (talk) 02:48, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
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