User talk:Armeniansarebest

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Nabuchadnezzar IV was a noble from the Satrapy of Armenia. However, the noble class of the Satrapy were Iranian and intermarried with the royal house of Iran. While it is possible the nobles were of Armenian origin, it is definitely up in the air and we should restrict our commentary to the facts we know: he was a noble from the Satrapy. Ogress 16:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

oh okay, just the Russian scientist Dyakinov wrote that he was an Armenian nobleman and commander Armeniansarebest (talk) 17:49, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

July 2024

Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Armeniansarebest", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it may be offensive to other editors. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing the form at Special:GlobalRenameRequest, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 17:38, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello. Don’t think anything like that, this is just my personal opinion and I don’t want to offend anyone with my nickname, and the question is, do you want me to change my nickname? Armeniansarebest (talk) 17:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

i'm just giving you a notice that other editors may be put off by it; it's up to your judgement :) ... sawyer * he/they * talk 18:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

oh okay :) Armeniansarebest (talk) 18:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did at Sergei Parajanov, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. Thedarkknightli (talk) 11:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

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but wait, I haven’t done anything like that on controversial topics, I’m still a newbie, but I only edited the page “Mosaic, Fresco, Religious image, and List of Armenians” Armeniansarebest (talk) 05:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

You are editing in the area, so we enforce our policies and guidelines more strictly on all related pages including talk pages. Doug Weller talk 11:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

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hello, I corrected my mistake and now the Artsakh link leads to the historical region Armeniansarebest (talk) 20:50, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

June 2024

Hello Armeniansarebest, I hope you are doing great. I recently noticed that an IP address (37.252.95.82) has been editing the same articles as you and it seems that there is a common pattern in your editing. I would like to warn you that editing with an IP and an account at the same time is fobidden according to wikipedia rules. If the IP is yours, you should avoid doing this again. If not, you can still keep this advice in mind for the future. Thank you Piccco (talk) 20:53, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

To be honest, I can only say that I myself am surprised that this account edits the same pages as me, although I did not ask for this. I just wanted to say that it’s not me, and I was surprised when I found out that he was helping me Armeniansarebest (talk) 06:19, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

I wanted to inform you that this was not the only IP address that I found to have a similar editing pattern as you. The past few days I have noticed a few more IPs editing the same articles as you, making identical edits, and they all geolocate to the same location (the latest example is this: 46.71.49.240). Please, keep in mind that if these IPs are indeed yours, you could potentially be reported to wikipedia administrators and this might result to a WP:BAN from wikipedia. Piccco (talk) 12:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

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August 2024

Please do not add commentary, your own point of view, or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Thedarkknightli (talk) 21:06, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Please do not use styles that are nonstandard, unusual, inappropriate or difficult to understand in articles. There is a Manual of Style, and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason. Thank you. Thedarkknightli (talk) 23:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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ok, sorry Armeniansarebest (talk) 16:42, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

I have no desire to argue because I know that it will give me nothing. I don’t understand why you ignore the fact that the same Vazgen 1 is Armenian Armeniansarebest (talk) 16:47, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Well, you can seek consensus on the article's talk page and/or at the relevant WikiProjects (e.g. Wikipedia:WikiProject Armenia, Wikipedia:WikiProject Romania and Wikipedia:WikiProject Soviet Union) if you wish to continue. Thedarkknightli (talk) 17:23, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Per MOS:INFONAT, we do not use the nationality parameter anymore. I am not sure how many times this needs to be said. This is not disputing the Armenian origin, but following the manual of style. Mellk (talk) 06:55, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Additionally, I do not see why we need to insert "Armenian" or "Armenian origin" wherever possible, especially when it is already clear that someone was Armenian. Edits like these are completely unnecessary. Mellk (talk) 06:59, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

but you understand that if a person goes to the page of the same Vazgen 1, he will see that he is the Catholicos of all Armenians, but may think that he is not of Armenian origin Armeniansarebest (talk) 07:34, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

It already says at the beginning of the biography section: Vazgen was born in Bucharest to a family belonging to the Armenian-Romanian community. The nationality parameter is deprecated, and ethnicity does not belong there. Additionally, for the citizenship parameter, it says: Do not use for ethnicity or national identity. This information simply does not belong in the infobox. Mellk (talk) 09:05, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Fine done, but i can say this about Nerses 5 too Armeniansarebest (talk) 09:06, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Please do not add original research oder novel syntheses of published material to articles. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. - LouisAragon (talk) 02:06, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Note

This is an incorrect use of the nationality parameter. The nationality was Soviet, not Armenian. Since he also was always a Soviet citizen throughout his life, this should not be mentioned anyway. In addition, Template:Infobox person says to not include this per WP:INFONAT. Mellk (talk) 05:45, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

We also usually do not include ethnicity in the opening sentence unless relevant to notability, per MOS:NATIONALITY. Mellk (talk) 05:47, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

There was no Armenia in the Neolithic, let alone Armenian architecture, making me doubt you can edit objectively about Armenioa

Your description of Göbekli Tepe as Armenian is very worrying as it strongly suggests that you cannot edit without bias anything to do with Armenia. Doug Weller talk 13:17, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

calm down, I’m not trying to falsify history, I wrote about the Armenian name because, firstly, many Armenians live in this part of Turkey, and secondly, the Turkish government itself told archaeologists not to say that this is an Armenian temple. How do you explain this? and who are you to talk about Neolithic Armenian architecture? Are you an academician of sciences or do you just upload to Wikipedia what is written on the sites? Armeniansarebest (talk) 13:37, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

by your logic, the fact that there are two variants of Kurdish names means that this is Kurdish architecture Armeniansarebest (talk) 13:37, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

In Wikipedia, most of the information is not true about Armenians, but you are lying with me here because I simply wrote her Armenian name because there are many Armenians there who are amazed. Do you even know why this is the most logical translation of all? Portasar(Պորտասար) means 'Navel Mountain'. And we know that all people are born and live for the first time thanks to the navel. After all, this is the name of the first temple in the world. Armeniansarebest (talk) 13:42, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

I didn't revert your edit to Göbekli Tepe so responding as though I did is irrelevant. I'm referring to your user page. You don't have to be an expert in archaeology to know there was no neolithic Armenian architecture. Note in any case you would need reliably published sources to make that claim.

Your statement that most Wikipedia information about Armenia is wrong is even more concerning. Doug Weller talk 13:44, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

I simply cannot justify my statement because, firstly, there is no point in doing it now because I don’t need it, and secondly, I’m too lazy to justify it to you because it simply won’t give me anything Armeniansarebest (talk) 13:47, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm not saying that there was Neolithic Armenian architecture, I'm saying that according to your logic, if there are 2 names of the Kurdish language in this article, it means that the temple is made in the form of Neolithic Kurdish architecture Armeniansarebest (talk) 13:49, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

it’s obvious that there are 2 Kurdish names there, simply because many Kurds live in Turkey who call Göbekli Tepe that way, but there are also quite a few Armenians in Turkey, then why not insert an Armenian name? especially considering that the monument is located very close to the Armenian plateau Armeniansarebest (talk) 13:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

be that as it may, I am no longer going to edit on pages of architecture other than Armenian Armeniansarebest (talk) 13:43, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Armeniansarebest. It was me that reverted your edit to Göbekli Tepe, not Doug. I am not opposed to including the Armenian name in the article, but there needs to be:

1. Reliable sources that verify that this is indeed the historic Armenian name of the site (and not just, for example, a calque of Göbekli Tepe / "naval hill")
2. A reason why the Armenian language is closely associated with the site (again with reliable sources for this claim)

We don't want to include every name for the site in the lead or every language in Turkey. Turkish is there because it is the official name of the site and what is most commonly used in English sources. Kurdish is there (after much debate) because the site is situated in a historically Kurdish-speaking part of Turkey. You're not the first person to add the Armenian name, but so far sources for neither point of been forthcoming. – Joe (talk) 14:18, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Okay thanks for explaining, but I'm don't gonna try to upload armenian name once more. Thanks Armeniansarebest (talk) 14:21, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Promotion of Armenian ethnicity

A significant number of your edits are counter-productive, and seem designed to promote Armenian nationalism and ethnic identity rather than to provide information from reliable sources using a neutral point of view. If you aren't careful to adhere to Wikipedia policies, you are at risk of being banned from Wikipedia.

Specifically, please read the following carefully:

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I appreciate your knowledge of the Armenian language and your efforts to add |native_name= values to relevant infoboxes. I hope you can find constructive ways to contribute to Wikipedia. Daask (talk) 23:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@Daask I agree. @Joe Roe: I'm wondering if we need to report this editor - even the username makes it clear there'a a major pov problem. Doug Weller talk 09:15, 13 August 2024 (UTC)