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Replaceable fair use File:Benny Hill Saluting.jpg
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Thanks for uploading File:Benny Hill Saluting.jpg. I noticed that this file is being used under a claim of fair use. However, I think that the way it is being used fails the first non-free content criterion. This criterion states that files used under claims of fair use may have no free equivalent; in other words, if the file could be adequately covered by a freely-licensed file or by text alone, then it may not be used on Wikipedia. If you believe this file is not replaceable, please:
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- Hi Stapmoshun. You seem to have tagged the above file with {{db-author}} which you can do. FWIW, I believe my tagging of the file as replaceable fair use was appropriate. Since I did so, however, another editor has nominated the Commons photo of Hill for deletion per c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Benny Hill.JPG. If the Commons file is deleted, then a non-free of Hill might be possible per item 10 of WP:NFCI as long as there's no reasonable expectation that another free equivalent cannot be created or found. Hill was a quite popular TV personality which means probably lots of photos were taken of him. As I posted at c:COM:VPC#Benny Hill Image, there may be other free images of him somewhere. I look and ask someone else to look as well, but perhaps you can try too. Ebay and similar sites are often a good place to check for old publicity photos which either never were marked with a copyright notice or whose copyright was not renewed. A non-free should be the final option, but it's OK when a free equivalent cannot be expected to be found. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:25, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hey Marchjuly, the photo I had put up was being disputed because I was told the image that was on display before was a free equivalent that did the job of showing Benny Hill's face well enough. However, the fact that a wax statue instead of an actual photograph is being used to showcase a person's image somehow bothers me. Nonetheless, I don't want to cause any copyright issues, so I deleted my picture and reverted the Benny Hill article back to the way it was before. Before uploading my image, I had searched Google far and wide for a free Benny Hill photo, but couldn't find any. I had emailed BBC asking if I could use a picture they had on an article, which was a brilliant photo really, a black and white photo of him in a kitchen when he was young. However, I haven't gotten a response from them. I put the image up and there was a warning underneath stating it would be taken down in two days, and I figured waiting was just delaying the inevitable. But I'm reading from you that the Commons photo might be taken down so I can put mine back up, is that correct? If so, I'd like to find a better picture; mine was a bit low quality. Thanks for your help. Stapmoshun (talk) 01:55, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- It might be best to see what happens with the Commons image first before uploading a new non-free images. While I kind of undersand your point about the wax statue, WP:NFCC#1 encourages us to use free equivalents whenever they can serve the same encyclopedic purpose, and the wax statue photo seems fine for primary identification; especially since the non-free you uploaded was basically the same pose of Hill in character. In some cases there might be better non-free photo which can possibly be used, but Wikipedia goes with the free equivalent if available if it suffices for identification. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:04, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- I understand, thank you. Keep me posted on the picture you found here https://www.celebrity8x10s.com/benny-hill-photo-b79675.html I would definitely like to use this one if we can, and if it's free. Stapmoshun (talk) 02:09, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- It might be best to see what happens with the Commons image first before uploading a new non-free images. While I kind of undersand your point about the wax statue, WP:NFCC#1 encourages us to use free equivalents whenever they can serve the same encyclopedic purpose, and the wax statue photo seems fine for primary identification; especially since the non-free you uploaded was basically the same pose of Hill in character. In some cases there might be better non-free photo which can possibly be used, but Wikipedia goes with the free equivalent if available if it suffices for identification. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:04, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hey Marchjuly, the photo I had put up was being disputed because I was told the image that was on display before was a free equivalent that did the job of showing Benny Hill's face well enough. However, the fact that a wax statue instead of an actual photograph is being used to showcase a person's image somehow bothers me. Nonetheless, I don't want to cause any copyright issues, so I deleted my picture and reverted the Benny Hill article back to the way it was before. Before uploading my image, I had searched Google far and wide for a free Benny Hill photo, but couldn't find any. I had emailed BBC asking if I could use a picture they had on an article, which was a brilliant photo really, a black and white photo of him in a kitchen when he was young. However, I haven't gotten a response from them. I put the image up and there was a warning underneath stating it would be taken down in two days, and I figured waiting was just delaying the inevitable. But I'm reading from you that the Commons photo might be taken down so I can put mine back up, is that correct? If so, I'd like to find a better picture; mine was a bit low quality. Thanks for your help. Stapmoshun (talk) 01:55, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Your license won't work - it's not pre 1923, nor is it suitable for PD-no-renewal, as the date is likely to be in the automatic renewal era, and it will be in copyright (in UK) at URAA, so US copyright gets renewed to 95 years after publication.... Only way is fair use - I've changed the page for you. Ronhjones (Talk) 18:29, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you. Stapmoshun (talk) 19:40, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
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