Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ACES MMA

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete - closing half a day early due to overwhelming consensus in favour of deletion, with all keep !votes having little or no basis in WP policy -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:08, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ACES MMA

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Zero notability. No fighters with articles, no reliable sources about the gym and it reads like an advert. Paralympiakos (talk) 00:43, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. —Paralympiakos (talk) 00:Bold text43, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

There is a sherdog profile, official website, a link to one of the fighters fights, a preview of the series of commercials —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.37.202 (talk) 01:01, 20 September 2010 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Melanson look this one all there is is his webite, and another saying hes a teacher —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97123 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFF and besides, Neil Melanson is incredibly notable on account of training some of the top mixed martial artists in the world. Your gym is full of non-notables and has no coverage. Paralympiakos (talk) 01:09, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you live in Oregon you have heard of ACES MMA. If you know the FCFF you know ACESMMA they have commercials and fighters have you even seen the links —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97123 (talk • contribs) 01:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC) Plus the owner Troy O'conner is for trainig fighters like Chael Sonnen and Rampage —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97123 (talk • contribs) 01:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_Fight_Gym look at this gym one fighter who is going to get cut nothing thats not notable —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97123 (talk • contribs) 01:23, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Looking at a Google search this organization/gym appears to fail WP:GNG. --TreyGeek (talk) 01:51, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

google again it has website —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.37.202 (talk) 02:10, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whether the organization has a website or not is not at issue. At issue is whether the organization is notable. Wikipedia guidelines say that something is notable if it "has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". A Google search shows no significant coverage that are independent of the subject. --TreyGeek (talk) 02:14, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Reads like an ad and I found nothing that shows this gym is notable. Papaursa (talk) 21:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DONT DELETE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vos_Gym this doesn't even site refrences —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97123 (talk • contribs) 23:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, please read WP:OTHERSTUFF. Paralympiakos (talk) 23:19, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Still I think something that has commercials deserves an article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97123 (talk • contribs) 23:35, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone can pay to air a commercial. Evil saltine (talk) 00:55, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: does not meet WP:GNG. Evil saltine (talk) 00:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

dont delete aces mma is one of the top gyms in the NW —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.37.202 (talk) 01:37, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: A notable gym is a gym that trains notable fighters working for notable organizations. See WP:MMANOT. This is not notable.
Delete. No notability of its own. The only claims are based on self-published material, mere existence, and association with someone who is independently notable himself apart from intrinsic connection to the group. Therefore fails WP:GROUP#Decisions based on verifiable evidence and WP:GROUP#Primary criteria. DMacks (talk) 06:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 12:55, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Mere existence is not enough. No indication of notability in independent sources. Astudent0 (talk) 13:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No reliable sources, only external links. So there's also very little notability. DARTH SIDIOUS 2 ^(Contact) 18:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It's possible that some fighters from this gym will breakout and achieve notability - and then we may end up revisiting this article. But, at present, there isn't enough sourcing there to show notabilty. UltraExactZZ ^Said~ Did 16:48, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DONT DELETE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.37.202 (talk)

Snowball anyone? Osubuckeyeguy (talk) 06:50, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm hoping that is considered. This is inevitable at 8-1. Paralympiakos (talk) 02:32, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.