Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agents of Secret Stuff (3rd nomination)

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:09, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agents of Secret Stuff

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This film does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NFILM. Besides all the primary sources used in the article (like YouTube and the production website), all the secondary ones used here either do not meet WP:SIGCOV, are blogs/user-generated, or are unreliable (or of unknown reliability). The NPR could be counted towards notability, but it still does not fulfill all the requirements. I was considering the previous deletion discussions before nominating this, but I also fail to see how this film satisfies WP:NFIC as there are not enough reliable sources to claim its impact on the industry and it can be neatly summarized or redirected to the Ryan Higa article. Sparkl^talk 20:47, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and Internet. Sparkl^talk 20:47, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: 36.719.020 views on YouTube. One of the first productions of its kind.^[1]— MY, OH MY! (mushy yank)— 09:53, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

^ Niqui, Cinto (2014-11-14). Los primeros 20 años de contenidos audiovisuales en Internet. 1000 obras y webs (in Spanish). Editorial UOC. ISBN 978-84-9064-486-7.

Nice catch, but unfortunately YouTube views don't always fulfill notability (WP:YTN). The book that was cited also disclosed that they sometimes lift information from Wikipedia, stated in page 5. Sparkl^talk 15:57, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Miller, Liz Shannon (2010-11-24). "NigaHiga's New Film Gets Digital Artists, Strompolos Support". Gigaom. Archived from the original on 2012-11-04. Retrieved 2023-06-26.
  The article notes: "The YouTube release of the 35-minute film Agents of Secret Stuff, directed by Wong Fu Productions and starring Higa as a hapless teenage secret agent. ... Agents, initially a self-funded production, has been picked up by the studio Digital Artists to expand its reach beyond the YouTube sphere, including mobile, television and film platforms. ... The actual film is a slickly-produced spy comedy nicely anchored by Higa, who plays a teenager who’s spent his entire life training to be a secret agent, and thus when sent undercover to protect a pretty high school student (Arden Cho) from danger, has no idea how to handle normal high school life. Writing-wise, there’s some lack of sophistication ... Agents, in short, certainly won’t disappoint any hardcore NigaHiga fans, but in terms of execution wouldn’t be out of place in any mainstream line-up of teen programming."
2. Lee, Letticia (2010-11-19). "Ryan Higa Stars in Agents of Secret Stuff". Asia Pacific Arts. USC U.S.-China Institute. University of Southern California. p. 2. EBSCOhost 64885278.
  The article notes: "This time it's not just a regular short YouTube episode; it's a 40-minute "medium film." The term "medium film" is chosen to represent this collaboration because it is too long to be a short film but too short to be labeled a full-on feature film. Ryan Higa and Wong Fu Productions are ready to show their "medium film," Agents of Secret Stuff to the rest of the YouTube nation. The feature is a true YouTube phenomenon since it not only stars Ryan Higa but also model/actress, Arden Cho, who has her own channel as well. The rest of the cast consists of other YouTube stars including Smosh, Kassem G, and HiimRawn."
3. Takahashi, Corey (2011-01-26). "In A Small Corner Of YouTube, A Web Star Is Born". NPR. Archived from the original on 2023-06-26. Retrieved 2023-06-26.
  The article notes: ""As long as I can remember, I've been training to become an A.S.S. — an agent of secret stuff," Higa's character, Aden, tells viewers at the start of Agents of Secret Stuff, a 35-minute action-comedy set in high school. The straight-to-YouTube mini-feature follows the mishaps of a covert, socially maladjusted hero who must save a classmate from impending threats. The video features a who's who of YouTube stars, and it's clocked well over 8 million views in the past two months. ... Wong Fu Productions, a production house based in Pasadena, Calif., directed, co-wrote and co-produced Agents of Secret Stuff with Higa, and has worked with him on shorter comedy sketches in the past. ... It partnered with the makers of Agents of Secret Stuff to release a special edition of the movie for iTunes, as well as mobile apps."
4. O'Dell, Jolie (2010-11-27). "Kitschy Indie Spy Feature Premieres on YouTube [Randomly Viral]". Mashable. Archived from the original on 2023-06-26. Retrieved 2023-06-26.
  The article notes: "Earlier this week, a group of independent filmmakers decided to put their 35-minute film on YouTube. Wong Fu Productions' Agents of Secret Stuff has since performed fabulously, garnering more than 2 million views for the full film itself and nearly 2.7 million views for the trailer. ... WFP co-founder Philip Wang told YouTube that the entire movie was shot in one intense week this past summer."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Agents of Secret Stuff to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 08:27, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in view of the additional reliable sources identified in this discussion which together show a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:47, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

[1] Niqui, Cinto (2014-11-14). Los primeros 20 años de contenidos audiovisuales en Internet. 1000 obras y webs (in Spanish). Editorial UOC. ISBN 978-84-9064-486-7.

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