Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anita Karim

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The result was keep. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:37, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anita Karim

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doesnt meet notability Nswix (talk) 21:43, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment once you get past the various social medial links, she's mentioned in either Pakistani or Indian sources. To be honest, they all look the same and I can't tell if they're RS or not. Oaktree b (talk) 00:38, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment She clearly doesn't meet WP:NMMA. It looks to me like it boils down to whether or not being Pakistan's first female MMA fighter shows WP notability (assuming that is an established fact). I'm not impressed by the coverage (much is just results reporting and fight promotion) and it's not clear to me that WP:GNG is met, but perhaps other sources can be found. Papaursa (talk) 00:23, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Found some sources with more significant coverage about her life and career:

Dawn
The Print
Desiblitz
BBC - interview but adds to her over all notability.

Insight 3 (talk) 16:39, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:41, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - The subject is winner of international championships. Sources like The Times of India, Radio Pakistan and ThePrint convince me to vote for weak keep.--Elton-Rodrigues (talk) 07:22, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For clarity, there is no evidence or claim of her winning any national or international championships. Winning one bout is not the same as winning a championship. Do you have any supporting sources for your statement? Which specific sources show she meets WP:GNG? Show me good sources and I'll willingly vote to keep this article. Papaursa (talk) 23:00, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep. She's garnered attention in international press, including the BBC, as Pakistan's first female MMA fighter. Overall I think there is enough of a flurry of coverage that there indicates some notability for this achievement. However, if we had an article on Mixed martial arts in Pakistan I would have suggested redirecting the article there and mentioning her achievement in one sentence rather than having a bio page. As it is, absent a merge/redirect target a weak keep is the best option.4meter4 (talk) 13:31, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Cassiopeia, HeinzMaster, RafaelHP, Gsfelipe94, and Sdpdude9:

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as the Keeps are Weak Keeps. Editors are looking for confirmation that the subject did win championships.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:30, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep sources given above establish the subject's notability to a fair degree. Muneebll (talk) 15:00, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per sources identified above, appears in news since 2019, plus discussed in Jennings' 2021 History of MMA.^[1] Passes the GNG.

References

^ Jennings, L. A. (2021). Mixed martial arts: a history from ancient fighting sports to the UFC. Rowman & Littlefield Publishers. pp. 190–191. ISBN 978-1-5381-4195-3.

Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 18:55, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Jennings, L. A. (2021). Mixed martial arts: a history from ancient fighting sports to the UFC. Rowman & Littlefield Publishers. pp. 190–191. ISBN 978-1-5381-4195-3.

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