Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bazil Broketail

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The result was redirect‎ to Christopher Rowley. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bazil Broketail

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Article about a novel series and separate articles about each of the seven individual novels within it, not making or reliably sourcing any strong claim to passing our inclusion criteria for novels.
As always, novels are not "inherently" notable just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass WP:GNG on third-party coverage and analysis about them -- but all but two of these are completely unreferenced, one of the two exceptions (Ultimate) is referenced exclusively to directory entries (e.g. GoodReads) that aren't support for notability, and the other exception (Battledragon) is referenced to one acceptable book review in a GNG-worthy publication, which is a start but not in and of itself enough.
And further, all of these are written entirely as in-universe plot and/or character summaries, with absolutely no content about their real-world impact or significance -- but our rules for how to write good articles about novels require the latter.
And even if this can be salvaged with better sourcing than I've been able to locate with the resources I have access to, it would still be unclear that we would need eight articles about it instead of just one omnibus article and a bunch of redirects. Additionally, note that there's also a {{Dragons of the Argonath novels}} navbox crosslinking all of these to each other, which will obviously also have to be deleted if these articles go — but given the slim possibility of salvageability, I don't think it appropriate to initiate TFD on it until there's a clearer sense of which direction the AFD discussion is travelling in. Bearcat (talk) 12:41, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature and United States of America. Bearcat (talk) 12:41, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. No sources found. Brachy08 _(Talk) 01:01, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect them all to the author, which already covers the series in adequate detail. The author article at The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction does mention this series, both in prose and with a listing, but I was not successful in finding further reviews either. Espresso Addict (talk) 05:56, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Split opinion between Redirection and Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:56, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:34, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I have not spent time searching for sources for any of these books, so I make no comment about the books' notability. I comment only to say I prefer a redirect over deletion per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion.
A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow editors to selectively merge any content that can be reliably sourced to the target article. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage in reliable sources is found in the future.
Cunard (talk) 23:00, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/redirect all to Christopher Rowley, the author. No indication that the books are individually notable. BD2412 T 16:21, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.