Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Knowlton

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Kj cheetham (talk) 12:31, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Knowlton

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For sports people we require substantial coverage to justify an article. All I was able to find on this individual was sports tables. The table I did find indicates he had a multi-year career in the minor leagues after his very short appearance in the major league, but I was not able to find any substantial coverage and do not think having an article on him is needed. John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:23, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Baseball, and Pennsylvania. Shellwood (talk) 13:14, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep How much WP:BEFORE did you do? If you're only looking in Google searches for someone who played a century ago, I agree you won't find much. If you look to contemporary news reports, you'll find GNG is met.[1][2][3][4][5] He became a police officer after his baseball career.[6] - Muboshgu (talk) 14:37, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Here's the clippings for the newspaper articles Muboshgu is listing (for those who do not have access to Newspapers.com): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 is same as 3, and 6. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:13, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep

There is on paragraph about him here (page 220): Lee, B. (2015). The Baseball Necrology: The Post-Baseball Lives and Deaths of More Than 7,600 Major League Players and Others. United States: McFarland, Incorporated, Publishers.

2 photos (with captions) about him on page 44 of here: Hunsinger, L. E., Quigel, J. P. (1999). Williamsport's Baseball Heritage. United States: Arcadia.

I think individually this adds up to significant coverage, I think that's open to debate, which is why I say "weak". CT55555 (talk) 17:18, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - There are plenty of sources on him, as there are for virtually every Major Leaguer who played at least one game since at least 1890 or so. Which is why it was ridiculous to eliminate the SNG criteria for players with at least one Major League game - we are going to have to waste time with nominations like this, where sources aren't always easy to find but we have found out over years of experience that they are virtually always there. Here's another one from newspapers.com (which only carries a small portion of the newspapers that actually existed at the time) to add to Muboshgu's: [7]. I am sure if I went to the library to hunt microfiche I would find more (there is actually a lot more on newspapers.com, but generally game summaries), but we have enough on line to indicate that, like all Major Leaguers, he meets our notability criteria. Rlendog (talk) 19:15, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Besides the sources above, I found two articles about his major league appearance, and there are many more articles (as Rlendog noted) about his minor league career, including these four: [8][9][10][11], so SIGCOV for Knowlton exists and he meets the GNG. Hatman31 (talk) 20:40, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Muboshgu and Hatman, the sources provided easily solve any issues. Wizardman 22:06, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. Played only one game in MLB -- 5 innings in a losing effort for MLB's worst team in 1920. Does not get an automatic pass since the repeal of NBASEBALL. Also, I'm not finding much in the way of depth of WP:SIGCOV. Plus the article was a one-sentence sub-stub (here) with no encyclopedic value at the time of its nomination. All that being said, I've added a bit from his obituary and on his minor league career and ultimately conclude it scrapes by, albeit barely. Cbl62 (talk) 15:42, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per all above. Meets WP:NBASE and WP:GNG. Ejgreen77 (talk) 04:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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