Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blac Youngsta

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. MBisanz ^talk 19:54, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Blac Youngsta

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Fails WP:BASIC and WP:ANYBIO. Trivial paragraph-long mentions in industry sources and on gossip websites. One song, Coordinate, did chart, but Billboard credits "Travis Scott featuring Blac Youngsta". A guest vocal does not lead to notability per WP:MUSICBIO. Magnolia677 (talk) 01:33, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:19, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Tennessee-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:19, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete non-notable rapper.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:08, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment WP:MUSICBIO does not state that a guest vocal does not lead to notability, false statement made by Magnolia677. Xboxmanwar (talk) 18:39, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:57, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Plenty of good sources from sites like HipHopDX [1] [2], Vibe (magazine) [3] [4], and XXL (magazine) [5] [6] can easily be found online. All three are listed at WP:MUSIC/SOURCES. He also has coverage beyond music-only news sources: [7] (WATN-TV), [8] [9] (The Commercial Appeal), [10] (The Atlanta Journal-Constitution), and [11] (The Daily Caller) BigGuy88 (talk) 23:06, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest these sources only confirm that this article should be deleted based on a lack of notability and reliable secondary sources. Allow me to comment on each of these "good sources":

[12] - two paragraph promo; no biographical content.
[13] - two paragraph promo; no biographical content.
[14] - primary source (interview).
[15] - primary source (interview).
[16] - vacuous, National Inquirer style commentary about a "beef" this person is having with Young Dolph. Hopefully, "Dolph you a bitch, you a soft ass n*a, if you got a problem, say you got a problem" cannot be reasonably interpreted as meaningful biographical content.
[17] - this is a report of an encounter this person had with the police. These are reported in the media thousands of times each day across the country; it does not make the person reported on notable.
[18] - a short biographical article in a local newspaper.
[19] - a short biographical article in a local newspaper.
[20] - a paragraph-long review of one of his songs.
[21] - another report of his encounter with the police; no biographical content.
[22] - dead link. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:15, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Agreeing with BigGuy88, plus I found more interviews with him, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. Xboxmanwar (talk) 20:19, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User:Xboxmanwar is indeed correct, this biography is rich in interviews (a primary source) and thin on reliable secondary sources, which is why is should be deleted. "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject", per WP:BASIC. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:50, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that User:BigGuy88 has been indefinitely blocked from Wikipedia. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:11, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Poor article but that's not a reason to delete the charting with a guest vocal and the reliable sources shown by BigGuy make him pass GNG. It needs work, not deletion. The person who found the sources being banned doesn't matter either, the sources still exist. GuzzyG (talk) 14:14, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Notability (music) specifically states: "meeting any of these criteria does not mean that an article must be kept. Rather, these are rules of thumb used by some editors when deciding whether or not to keep an article that is listed at articles for deletion". Charting with a guest vocal and a paragraph or two in a local paper does not bestow notability. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:35, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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