Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bravo Telecom
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. ansh666 02:59, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
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I'm not seeing how this passes our notability guideline.Has shades of UPE throughout it's history and even hijacking.Not finding any significant coverage across reliable sources. Winged BladesGodric 12:49, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete - I stumbled upon this article by chance (saw an ad for this local ISP) and noticed that the title "Bravo Telecom" had been highjacked from being about a Saudi telecom (later histsplit into Bravo (Saudi Arabia)) by UPE-corp account User:BT.team and also by Meding46 (see the WP:COIN thread detailing the highjack.) I PRODed and tagged the then-unreferenced advert-like stub, to which Meding46 said "I know the company very well as they're my provider for Internet Telephone and TV since 10 years, so I'll reach to them and make them aware that their page is planned for deletion. I'm sure we can improve this page by citing sources let me manage that.", and then came along Sumon07 (who are suspected of engaging in UPE across several articles, along with their sock User:Rasel78, and who also probably logged out to use 203.78.145.244 to re-remove the tags here) to add sources to this article. Of the seven added sources, two (#1 and #5) are to Bravo's website and one (#6) is a self-published pless release, two (#2 and #4) are directory listings of businesses or internet plans, one (#3) is to a government decision unrelated to Bravo, one (#7) is a generic tech article about DSL Internet that doesn't even come within a mile of mentioning Bravo; there is not a single reliable, independent source demonstrating any significant coverage, and thus there is no argument that this topic would pass notability per WP:GNG or even WP:NCORP. Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 15:08, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete -- a telecom company of 30 employees is too insignificant. Does not meet WP:NCORP / WP:CORPDEPTH. K.e.coffman (talk) 20:55, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Mege -- Almost all listed companies in the website listing Bravo Telecom (#4) among others have a Wikipedia Page : see reference page Plans by carrier, I could find at least the four preceding Bravo Telecom such as Bell Cogeco Distributel and EBOX. Because I leave in Canada, I know that both latest ones are adopting same business model than BT and are comparable in terms of employees and turn over. Additionally, when Canadian users search for Bravo Telecom they are faced to the page about Bravo (Saudi Arabia) which does no more exist and it doesn't make sense to keep them in the index. I would recommend merging both pages Bravo Telecom and Bravo (Saudi Arabia) into the same page about the Canadian internet provider which is more useful for users in Canada and in the world. Meding46 (talk) 16:38, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- Or more useful to your pocket.Anyways, WP:OSE and WP:USEFUL aren't valid arguments.And, I live far away from Canada, so why do I choose to believe you or any other non-reliable source?If, you believe that
Bravo (Saudi Arabia) which does no more exist and it doesn't make sense to keep them in the index
, feel free to seek an AFD.Winged BladesGodric 16:43, 9 January 2018 (UTC)- Winged Blades I'm a contributor same you are ! Meding46 (talk) 19:51, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- Or more useful to your pocket.Anyways, WP:OSE and WP:USEFUL aren't valid arguments.And, I live far away from Canada, so why do I choose to believe you or any other non-reliable source?If, you believe that
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 17:56, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 17:56, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep From what I understand there are people specialized in deletion and this may be a new business. I live in CANADA (see my IP) and I believe the brand Bravo Telecom deserves its own Wikipedia page, I do not understand why is there a debate about this !74.58.71.52 (talk) 00:23, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
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I think it deserves a page
" unfortunately is totally meaningless. The point of this discussion is not to evaluate what you think, but evaluate whether this article subject meets English Wikipedia's inclusion policy. Can you explain how the article subject meets English Wikipedia inclusion policies (WP:GNG oder WP:CORPDEPTH)? Thanks! Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 00:31, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete No indications of notability, references fail the criteria for establishing notability, fails WP:NCORP. Topic fails GNG. HighKing++ 00:43, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
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