Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brendan Loughnane

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. KaisaL (talk) 00:52, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Brendan Loughnane

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Non-notable MMA fighter - does not meet WP:NMMA with one top tier fight as a loss. Peter Rehse (talk) 12:10, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 12:10, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: This seemed suspicious to me. He's a champion, yet there are no independent references? (The references are from his gym, his management company and his facebook page). I do not believe he meets WP:GNG. ubiquity (talk) 12:23, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what British Champion means - just like there is no US champion.Peter Rehse (talk) 12:24, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what it means either. He's not listed at List of current mixed martial arts champions. ubiquity (talk) 13:18, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

* Keep and Improve. I have not been able to find what organization he is a champion of, but he has fought in the UFC (1), and has a significant professional record noted in a top MMA site (2). He appears to have also signed a multi-fight deal with Bellator (3) and (4), so based on this quick search, I think the article is worth keeping. Aust331 (talk) 16:09, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Changing my vote to delete as subject fails WP:NMMA. Aust331 (talk) 15:46, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Simply fighting in the UFC does not show notability (nor is winning a minor championship). See WP:NMMA for the notability criteria for MMA fighters. Papaursa (talk) 22:59, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I noted more reasons than just fighting in the UFC. The subject has had significant coverage ESPN, Mirror, etc., has an established professional record (Sherdog), and has signed a multiple fight deal with one of the biggest MMA organizations in the world, Bellator MMA ([1]), all of which provide sufficient evidence of notability. Aust331 (talk) 08:51, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to look at the MMA notability criteria (WP:NMMA). Just being a pro fighter doesn't make him notable, nor does fighting for second tier organizations.Mdtemp (talk) 14:38, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NMMA: “Mixed martial artists are presumed notable if they have fought at least three (3) professional fights for a top-tier MMA organization.” Brendan Loughnane has fought for the UFC (1), BAMMA (https://www.bamma.com/fighters/brendan-loughnane), and has a signed a multi-fight deal with Bellator (3). All three are WP:MMATIER organizations.Aust331 (talk) 15:15, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The criteria says "top tier" not "any tier".Mdtemp (talk) 15:28, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You're correct; I was surprised to find BAMMA under the 2nd-Tier category as it's an organization that comes up often in the MMA community (at least in the UK). Aust331 (talk) 15:36, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Lacks the coverage to meet WP:GNG and definitely fails to meet WP:NMMA. Papaursa (talk) 22:59, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete He fails the MMA notability criteria. He also fails to meet WP:GNG. Links to his fight record and results reporting are not significant coverage.Mdtemp (talk) 14:38, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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