Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/China 117 Tower

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The result was Keep (Non-admin closure), consensus is CRYSTAL clear. Paragon12321 (talk) 23:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

China 117 Tower

Appears to be complete WP:CRYSTAL. Googling for "China-117-Tower Tianjin" shows only 23 somebody's sketch-up that they uploaded to a few of the skyscaper sites. Zero news hits. KelleyCook (talk) 20:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - tallest building in china is easily notable, also construction has started so crystal does not apply --T-rex 23:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep as under construction. DGG (talk) 07:11, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Sure if this is true, but then Wikipedia would demand that we need a reference to a reputable source saying this. An anonymous editor commenting on the various skyscraper websites certainly don't count. Most of the future construction sketchups on the mentioned sites are just pipedreams of some lonely wannabe architect. Should we put all those buildings on here? -- KelleyCook (talk) 13:07, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Article fails general notability criteria, notability criteria for buildings and structures, and WP:CRYSTAL. If and when building is finished, if multiple reliable sources cover it extensively and in a non-trivial manner, then an article would be appropriate. At this time however, article fails. Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 19:07, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, article is notable as this supertall skyscraper is going to be the tallest building in China at 570 m (1870 feet), which is taller than all but a few structures in the world. Two news sources document the groundbreaking (beginning of construction) of the tower back on 12-13-2007, although both are in Chinese and one is a close copy of the other. See [1], and [2]. The building is under construction so WP:CRYSTAL doesn't apply. See this page. Cheers. _{Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab} 18:00, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Perhaps a Chinese-speaking Wikipedian could search for 中国117大厦 and if any reliable references come up they can include them in the article. Foreign-language references are better than no references. --Joowwww (talk) 18:30, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep; the China 117 Tower is definitely notable. Becoming the tallest building in China (and one of the tallest in the world) is something that should be covered on Wikipedia. Even though there currently are not many sources, as construction progresses the building will become more well known. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 23:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note; I have made minor changes and improvements to the article. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 23:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article still fails general notability criteria, notability criteria for buildings and structures, and WP:CRYSTAL. Without "significant coverage" in "reliable sources", there is no choice but to delete. L0b0t (talk) 00:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I don't see a good reason so far for deletion. Thanks.

218.186.66.118 (talk) 11:50, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above vote was placed by User:L0b0t's wikistalker User:Yasis who is still hiding behind IP socks to avoid a block. Please see Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Yasis. Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 01:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.