Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Efiwe.org

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The result was keep. SoWhy 10:08, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Efiwe.org

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Fails the criteria for establishing notability. Some references are from reliable sources but they are not independent of the subject and do not contain independent analysis and/or opinion. Fails WP:NCORP. -- HighKing⁺⁺ 20:54, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

• I have re-written the profile to be more encyclopedic and less newsletter-y like it had become before. Hi @HighKing: do take a look and let me know if you're satisfied. Igwatala (talk) 21:19, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Igwatala, it is less advertorial in tone now, but there are no indications of notability and the only purpose to have an article is to promote the cause. I nominated the article because it requires two intellectually independent references in order to meet the criteria for notability and this article has none. Every reference is a PRIMARY source, either directly published by the organization or its an interview with Philip - those references fail WP:ORGIND. -- HighKing⁺⁺ 13:30, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:40, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:40, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:43, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

• Strong Keep As a partner organization fufilling a similar purpose to Wikipedia. Keep. scope_creep (talk) 16:16, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Killiondude (talk) 00:40, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

• Keep It has enough sources in its 14 references to show notability. --Frmorrison (talk) 20:01, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
• Löschen. It seems to me that the keep lines (both experienced editors) are not addressing Wikipedia:Notability and WP:ORGIND. There's no evidence of "partner organization" status, and that's not the guideline anyway: Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause. Of the 14 alleged sources, 9 are written by Efiwe.org, of which 3 are the same press release deliberately cited from different websites; the other 5 are local to towns around Southern Illinois University Edwardsville:
  1. local: The Telegraph is near SIUE (and also filled with abusive JavaScript, link spam inserted visibly in some pages, and scam ads like "Login to Your Account" to a website that wants you to tell them your e-mail account and password).
  2. local: The Edwardsville Intelligencer is near SIUE
  3. local: Alestle is SIUE's own newspaper
  4. self: The Ktravula article is labeled "For Immediate Release" — it's a direct press release from Efiwe.org
  5. self: RiverBender.com is local coverage in Alton/Edwardsville, and is a direct copy of the same press release from Efiwe.org
  6. local: The Edwardsville Intelligencer is near SIUE
  7. self: Efiwe.org main website
  8. self: Efiwe.org Facebook post
  9. self: Efiwe.org's Instagram
  10. self: Efiwe'org's Twitter
  11. self: Efiwe.org's LinkedIn
  12. self: Philip Alabi's own prose, and no evidence of editorial control: "We tell your story as you want it to be told."
  13. local: Belleville News-Democrat is near SIUE
  14. self: same press release again, marked "Content is submitted and reviewed before posting on STLtoday.com, but not verified for accuracy." and the St. Louis Post-Dispatch is arguably near SIUE

Making 1 press release look like 3 independent sources isn't a good sign. --Closeapple (talk) 13:37, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

• I've added a new source that isn't based in/around Edwardsville and isn't derived from the press release. Igwatala (talk) 04:08, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

• Comment The social media references will need to go, but there is now coverage on two continents. scope_creep (talk) 09:24, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
• The social media links have been removed. It looks good to me too. Igwatala (talk) 11:12, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
• Keep as per sources such as Nigeria News that have been addded to the article and the likelihood of further African coverage showing this is more than a local interest project Atlantic306 (talk).

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