Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Etchegaray (pelotari)

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The result was redirect‎ to Basque pelota at the 1900 Summer Olympics. I question the value of this redirect given that we don't have the subject's name but I'm inclined to close discussions with ATD. Editors can always bring this to WP:RFD if you strongly object. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:25, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Etchegaray (pelotari)[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTSCRIT #5. It is unlikely sources can be found, as we know virtually nothing about him; not his first name, not his date and place of birth, not his date and place of death. BilledMammal (talk) 03:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 03:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I thought that there might be more on the French page, but there isn't. There is no Basque page (not that I can read Basque, but Google Translate can). Athel cb (talk) 09:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Olympics and France. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 15:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, is there a reliable prose source asserting that Etchegaray and Maurice Durquetty did not win medals? I noticed that Wikipedia used to denote these two as silver medalists on their articles, but in 2022 the nominator removed their medals. Typically, if a team forfeits a match, they would be considered 2nd place, not absent entirely from the results. I see that the Olympics.com database only mentions the first place team, but their results (and the affiliated Olympedia) have been wrong before, i.e. see the men's marathon results discrepancy from the very same Olympics. --Habst (talk) 18:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: if there were no third and fourth team, there were no initial rounds and the competition went straight to final, and if a team did not enter that match, how would they be considered participants? Geschichte (talk) 20:13, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, Bill Mallon did list 2 participating teams, but his description of the event is fairly flimsy. There is no basis whatsoever for a biography. A mention in the event page is ample. The Olympic Games did not have the status it attained later. The pool of competitors was often completely random. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lecomte (archer). Geschichte (talk) 20:13, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Basque pelota at the 1900 Summer Olympics. Barring a discovery, there's not going to be sigcov if we don't know his name. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:56, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Basque pelota at the 1900 Summer Olympics: Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Redirect as a WP:ATD. Let'srun (talk) 16:34, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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