Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fraline

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. MBisanz ^talk 01:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fraline

non-notable school project, at least that is how I interpret this article - not really clear what all this about. Голубое сало/Blue Salo (talk) 08:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 16:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:29, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - this is not a school project. This is a successful implementation of a way of providing IT support to school teachers with no background in IT from the local universities. I note that the organisation has won a national award for innovation - which appears to be awarded by the Federal President. This would therefore appear to be notable. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- One of 365 winners out of a pool of 1500 participants, see 365 Landmarks. Голубое сало/Blue Salo (talk) 22:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - this is a joint LEA/University project and seems notable. I don't read German, and the 'Web Resources' needs thinning out and organising by someone who does, but I see no reason to delete. The nominator's argument "not really clear what all this about" is not a deletion argument in any policy that I have seen. TerriersFan (talk) 23:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- to clarify, notability requires secondary sources, the only secondary source given is an article in the Frankfurter Rundschau, and Fraline is only mentioned in passing (Special support at the Fachhochschule is furthermore gien to the computer-project Fraline) - the article is about the Fachhochschule in general, not about the project). I could not find any other news article about this project - the project seems to be mentioned only on pages of the project and their support partners. Голубое сало/Blue Salo (talk) 23:37, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Haven't researched it in detail, but I've looked at the references: President Köhler is patron of the "Land der Ideen" sponsorship program (as he is of many other ones). Being awarded a sponsorship from that program isn't making the project notable, and thus far I haven't found significant coverage of Fraline in reliable sources. --Amalthea^Talk 23:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I looked a little longer, but as indicated above, I don't find significant coverage that would warrant an article about the project. Fails WP:NOTE. --Amalthea^Talk 00:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or at worst merge to Frankfurt am Main. There appears to be several German language news stories on it at GoogleNews. DoubleBlue (Talk) 14:18, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I've looked at the 30 gnews hits again, and discounting the press releases there really isn't anything left! The ones that aren't declared press releases by google and are about the project are [1] [2] [3] [4] and [5]. The first four are all on www.juraforum.de and list releases by de:Informationsdienst Wissenschaft, a platform which distributes press releases, and the last one is only a name drop with no information whatsoever. --Amalthea^Talk 14:38, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment: Update my suggestion to simply merge since I trust Amalthea's reading of the news coverage. There is still adequate verifiable information to leave it at Frankfurt am Main, where it can be expanded should reliable sources develop. DoubleBlue (Talk) 14:57, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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