Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Francis Ramasamy

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Shimeru (talk) 08:10, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Francis Ramasamy

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Proposed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject_Martial_arts/Article_Review Wikipedia:WikiProject_Martial_arts/Article_Review/22nd_April_2010, User:Jmcw37 as secretary.

WP:NRVE Wikipedia:WPMA/N "No reliable sources found to verify notability" jmcw (talk) 12:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. —jmcw (talk) 12:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is an unsourced BLP and the article doesn't show he passes WP:MANOTE. A quick Google search didn't find any independent sources that show him to be notable. Astudent0 (talk) 14:17, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I would be prepared to change my opinion if contributors with Aikido expertise think this article should remain (I seem to remember this name from somewhere before), but a search for reliable sources just now did not reveal much to support notability. Janggeom (talk) 01:02, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I can't find reliable sources that show me he passes WP:GNG or WP:MANOTE. Papaursa (talk) 16:15, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Do Not Delete Although we did not create the entry, the Kenshinkai Yoshinkan Aikido Organisation (UK) http://www.kenshinkai.org.uk verifies that the information contained in this article is accurate. In addition Shihan Francis Ramasamy was the instructor of Sensei David Eayrs who was the second person to bring Yoshinkan Aikido into the UK. Therefore this article should NOT be deleted. http://www.kenshinkai.org.uk/HistoryYoshinkanUK.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.18.95.142 (talk) 07:58, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure that teaching the second person to bring a particular style to the UK qualifies as notable. I'm not even sure that being the second person qualifies, much less being that person's teacher. Notability is not inherited. Astudent0 (talk) 13:04, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Even if the information in the aticle is true, and there are no sources that verify that, I don't see how the subject passes the notability test. The above organization never mentions him on their web page. Papaursa (talk) 04:29, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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