Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fujitani Masatoshi
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:14, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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There's no indication that he meets any notability criteria, such as WP:GNG or WP:MANOTE, and the only source is a listing of him as a one of the students of someone (and notability is not inherited). Papaursa (talk) 21:54, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Papaursa (talk) 21:54, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 22:18, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete If he was the headmaster of a notable school I would say keep. However, I find no indication of the school other than one location in Germany which maybe related. The request for information has been not adequetly answered.Peter Rehse (talk) 00:08, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. I finally found the kanji for this person. Here is a page that describes his career. It does seem that he was the founder of one of the factions in Shitō-ryū karate. A few organizations, such as the Meibukai apparently descend from him. I found one academic article that compares his school's style with that of another. I reversed the name order (per MOS)--it should be Masatoshi Fujitani--and noted the year of his death in the article. Michitaro (talk) 02:14, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Michitaro ChrisGualtieri (talk) 02:15, 14 May 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.148.27.81 (talk) [reply]
- Keep. He's of interest because of the lineage and has links to history. The article needs to be better developed, but if it's here, someone with knowledge or sources can add to it. Pkeets (talk) 15:04, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't see anything that shows notability. His lineage is irrelevant (WP:NOTINHERITED) and I don't know what you mean by "has links to history." At best my Japanese translations show he has a high rank and in the past that has been determined insufficient to show notability. Papaursa (talk) 03:22, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Shitō-ryū is notable, and if he is founder to one of factions and has organizations that descend from him, then he is integral to the history. It means he's deserving of mention here. Pkeets (talk) 14:30, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Shito-ryu may be notable, but his splinter doesn't seem to be. The WP article on Shito-ryu shows 23 splinter groups and who heads them, and Masatoshi is not mentioned. Astudent0 (talk) 16:01, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Shitō-ryū is notable, and if he is founder to one of factions and has organizations that descend from him, then he is integral to the history. It means he's deserving of mention here. Pkeets (talk) 14:30, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't see anything that shows notability. His lineage is irrelevant (WP:NOTINHERITED) and I don't know what you mean by "has links to history." At best my Japanese translations show he has a high rank and in the past that has been determined insufficient to show notability. Papaursa (talk) 03:22, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I didn't find anything that shows notability--certainly being mentioned as a student in a list doesn't. Even a high rank doesn't show it. I didn't even find anything in Japanese to support notability, but I must admit the computer translations I got were pretty bad. Astudent0 (talk) 16:01, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Could someone who can deal with the Japanese add the article on style comparison to the article as a reference? Lineage is important to scholars who are trying to trace the development of styles. If possible, information about it should also be added to the article. Pkeets (talk) 01:02, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- delete I didn't find anything to show this karateka is notable (WP:MANOTE) and the article has no sources that support any claims of notability. Mdtemp (talk) 19:12, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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