Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Akins

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. There is a rough consensus below that there is insufficient coverage in independent, reliable sources to support an article and that the subject cannot successfully claim notability on any other basis. Eluchil404 (talk) 05:44, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Akins

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Claims of notability are based on being taught by Rickson Gracie and helping train some notable MMA fighters, but notability is not inherited. References are passing mentions based on these relationships. Fails to meet WP:MANOTE or WP:GNG. Mdtemp (talk) 16:10, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 16:57, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As per nominator.Peter Rehse (talk) 16:57, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:20, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:20, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:05, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - While the page could definitely use more reliable sources, there are references that detail the subject. Meatsgains (talk) 02:10, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete actually as my searches are actually finding nothing better and the article is still questionable for any better improvements. SwisterTwister talk 05:24, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I'm not seeing the coverage needed to convince me he meets WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 00:36, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Akins meets guidelines as a notable coach and instructor, depending on your view of martial arts. He is even "regarded as one of the best black belts produced by the legendary Gracie" and has developed his own style of JiuJitsu. Perhaps this page should be in the references: http://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-fighters/henry-akins ~ [Daveswallace] (talk) 19:40, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The site bjjheroes.com is not considered a reliable source since it is essentially a blog. Developing your own style is not grounds for notability unless you can show that style is notable (see WP:MANOTE#Arts and styles for details about what makes a style notable). Finally, the claim he was "one of the best black belts" is undermined by the fact there is no record at ibjjf.org of him having success at any BJJ tournament. Papaursa (talk) 20:34, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.