Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Historical Black Press Foundation

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The result was delete. CharlieEchoTango (contact) 09:25, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Historical Black Press Foundation

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I have found few sources that would be able to support the article aside from the current editorandpublisher.com reference. Several of the references are either award presentations, press releases, insufficient or mention the managing editor DC Livers. I found a press release here, an unreliable blog post here, award presentation here, a mention of the foundation and one of their award shows here and news article that would provide little encyclopedia material here. There is also another mention of the award and DC Livers here and a blog here that focuses with a foundation member rather than the foundation itself.

Google Books only found one book mentioning this foundation here, which is probably the best reference I have found and disregarding the book's "pride and mission" sentences. Google News (it briefly continues at the second page of results) also provided other links that were either mentioning DC Livers or awards. It appears that this is an important Black press foundation but it seems there is little significant coverage about them. I also understand that this article houses several of their publications. SwisterTwister talk 02:11, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete—To my considerable surprise I must agree with SwisterTwister here that this organization fails notability guidelines, even WP:NONPROFIT. Kudos for a fine job of fulfilling WP:BEFORE, by the way. There seems to be no coverage beyond what's found above, and I also checked jstor, lexis/nexis, newsbank, and a couple other databases. They get mentioned very very rarely for giving awards but the organization itself is not discussed. Their publications don't seem to be notable either, so there's no loss there. This organizaton just *should* be notable, but it seems that it isn't. I'm going to have to redo Template:African American press, which I just made the other day.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 03:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:17, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Shame, and I can't disagree. However, in my experience, not the first time that a Black organization has been ignored.) Pensativa (talk) 18:02, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's possibly a result that the organisation is only 13 years old. If the group had been, say, 160 years, I believe that there would've been better coverage, perhaps from African-American magazines. SwisterTwister talk 19:16, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Uncertain apart from its web page, I have been unable to find anything significant about it. What they essentially do is publish an online directory, which is the sort of thing that may be used, but is unlikely to be talked about. DGG ( talk ) 02:34, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 13:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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