Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kasai rex

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Redirect to Emela-ntouka is an option but the suggestion was not mentioned in this AFD. v/r - T P 01:37, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kasai rex

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A nice imaginary animal, but unfortunately there are no reliable sources that I can find anywhere. Do a Google Book search, and you'll find some self-published fiction and a couple of sensational books by non-notable publishers, and the rest is all Wikia and Wikipedia. Drmies (talk) 05:33, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete A search for reliable sources shows nothing but a textbook list of unreliable sources. It's all a load of hooey. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:45, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment More importantly, can it fly an F-14? Someone another 09:06, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Response More to the point, can it land it in one piece? Emeraude (talk) 12:22, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment^2 No it can't, for it ain't no ROFLCOPTERANODACTYL. - ¡Ouch! (^{hurt me} / _{more pain}) 16:14, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I've also failed to find any good sources. Emeraude (talk) 12:22, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Paranormal-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:02, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ this is not my subject area, at all, but looking through google/books/scholar has brought up various blog-style sites and a few books which appear to be published by very specialist/minor publishers, none of which strike me as reliable sources, leaving only the newspaper piece from the Rhodesia Herald. That said if editors with background in cryptids etc. can step forward with relevant sources then please discount this !vote. As an aside, I see no indications that this beast, hoax or not, has any skill in flying/landing fixed-wing aircraft or ROFLcopters. Someone another 22:35, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Default to keep Zagalejo is quite right, there are sources for this other name, Chipekwe, such as this beard-stroky academic type book from Brill Publishers. Not only that, Chipekwe redirects to Emela-ntouka. So, we have 2 articles (Kasai Rex and Emela-ntouka) which have both existed since 2005 and appear to be covering the same subject. Rather than !vote merge and encourage a copy-and-paste job or a redirect pretending to be a merge, I think it would be a good idea for someone who does have knowledge of this subject to figure out if Kasai Rex and Chipekwe/Emela-ntouka are the same 'thing' and therefore merge them, or if a separate entry is needed for Kasai Rex on List of Cryptids, or something else. Someone another 13:29, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's a cryptozoologist citing a few other ~~nuts~~ folks, and he doesn't call it kasai rex. I don't see an argument to keep here--and I think I may put Emela-ntouka on my list also. Drmies (talk) 04:06, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment No one really takes this story seriously, but it's been circulating long enough that it might be worth mentioning somewhere. Not all sources seem to call the creature "Kasai rex"; see this old issue of Boys' Life, for example. Zagalejo^^^ 05:15, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Since there don't seem to be any reliable sources to the reptile, nor to the actual name of "Kasai rex", my !vote is for deleting the article, and burying it for another 65 million years. Maybe part of the article could be moved to Cryptozoology#Notable hoaxes. - ¡Ouch! (^{hurt me} / _{more pain}) 11:36, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Some more background The Rhodesia Herald account is discussed in the book On the Track of Unknown Animals, by Bernard Heuvelmans. The picture is also reproduced, though Heuvelmans dismisses it as a hoax. He does not use the term "Kasai rex"; I'm not sure if that term even existed before the Internet era. (I'm also not sure how the "chipekwe" became conflated with the "emela ntouka", since they sound like two different kinds of creatures.) Zagalejo^^^ 23:37, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I agree that if it is discussed in a substantial way in the Heuvelmans book, which is the standards modern work on the subject, then it is notable . As the naming is uncertain, we should keep the articles separate. It is for informations on subjects just such as this that people come to comprehensive encyclopedias lie Wikipedia. DGG ( talk ) 04:40, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.