Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of characters in the Hulk film series

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Not really a WP:SUMMARY, and fails WP:NOR and WP:PLOT. Jayjg ^(talk) 03:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of characters in the Hulk film series

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Article, as it stands, consists of sections lifted in-whole or in part form other articles, which it then points to with {{Seealso}} or {{Main}}. As an article this adds nothing beyond what is already in those articles. J Greb (talk) 01:25, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep acceptable summary article, perWikipedia:Summary style DGG ( talk ) 21:05, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. —J Greb (talk) 02:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Acceptable and properly sourced summary article per WP:SUMMARY. That guideline's second paragraph is important to consider. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 21:11, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The problem is, this isn't a summary. Nor is it the original article that got split into sub-sections on other articles. It's a plot-bloated character list synthesized by copy-and-past out of the other articles. - J Greb (talk) 23:01, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Löschen This is reshuffling of existing information into a new article, when the information is already in the right place - the relevant character article, which itself is linked into from the films (and from the film series for recurring or important characters). This is redundant replication which serves no purpose. (Emperor (talk) 02:13, 2 March 2010 (UTC))[reply]
Actually it might be seen as a guideline encouraged place where the briefest of contextual information is gathered and sourced... and as such acts to benefit those readers who wish to know who these characters are. Sure... if a reader already knew all the names and characters in this article, they would be visiting the main articles... but if a reader did not already know where to look, this article then serves to increase their understanding of the various subject(s) and leads them to other articles within Wikipedia for their further elucidation. I am unable to presume that someone wishing to know what characters are in the various Hulk series already know who these characters are or where to read about them. This article allows readers to then visit the multitude of other Hulk-related articles, and includes information on characters NOT covered elsewhere. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 07:46, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Except the characters are linked in from the relevant film articles, so the obvious place to look for this information is on the character's page. Copying this information across to a different page is just redundant (because the information should be on the relevant character page) and pointless (because the link from the film article goes to the character page, so people looking for the information can find it there). So for example see Hulk (film)#Cast, everything points to the appropriate pages and a random user visiting and not knowledgeable about this character in a film series page would have to visit it to find the relevant information and they wouldn't know where it was anyway without some digging (digging they wouldn't need to do, thanks to the perfectly serviceable character pages). (Emperor (talk) 19:24, 4 March 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Not all are from the various films. Some of them are from the various comic book or animated series as well... and not all the listed and sourced characters are mentioned in the relevent film or comic articles. And again, the fact that even a few might have a mention elsewhere is useless to the reader unless he already knew what film a character was in or knew the name of the character. This List provides them in one place and acts to benefit the reader in greater usability of the encyclopedia and the information as offered. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:36, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please note: If the title is to be taken as accurate, and it should be, the characters are limited to the films Hulk (2003) and The Incredible Hulk (2008). Any information pertaining to the characters in the comics, the live action TV show, the TV movies, animated TV show and films, and video games is irrelevant and, if kept, should be removed as such. That does mean that the content here is down to - Cast list (primarily looked for in the film articles) and "In other media" sections of the character articles. There are precedents for good, concise, multiple film/show lists such as List of Batman films cast members, List of Batman television series cast members, and List of X-Men films cast members. This doesn't even come close to those. - J Greb (talk) 20:11, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is basically the same as Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_characters_in_the_Fantastic_Four_film_series.--Marcus Brute (talk) 05:23, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 00:15, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete unless more refs are added. Kayau Voting IS evil 05:06, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Serious WP:OR and excessive WP:PLOT. Also a very inappropriate grouping of characters from primarily unrelated films with similar names. As its own lead notes "It must be stressed that the two films do not share the same continuity." as such they should not be grouped in this manner. Leave it to the individual film articles to cover their topics. If readers want to compare/contrast the two films, that is for them to do, not for Wikipedia editors to do with unsourced, personal research.-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 23:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]