Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fictional states of the United States

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:36, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of fictional states of the United States

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The list has few sources and seems to fail WP:LISTN. A large number of the entries are themselves non-notable as well. I usually tolerate plot-significant states in notable works, and sometimes also fictional things from non-works, but like many low-quality lists of fictional elements by type, many entries are mere passing mentions; from works that do not have articles, including books by redlinked authors; or places not even confirmed as US states. A good example of the latter is "North Montana" as a future version of Canada in Meet the Robinsons, which is mentioned as a one-off gag and is never claimed to be part of the US — all that is said is that it "hasn't been called Canada for years."

Aside from notability concerns, the article has serious problems with its scope. We have everything from purely fictional states (the ostensible topic, and same as Category:Fictional states of the United States); fictionalized versions of real or proposed states, such as works where the proposed State of Deseret became reality; various alternate history or otherwise fictionalized versions of the US, such as scenarios where the American Revolution failed; and breakaway states formed from the US, such as fictionalized versions of the Confederate States of America. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 02:58, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 02:58, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 02:58, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 02:58, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Almost nothing in the list is bluelinked to an article that is actually relevant, besides various incorrect links. The category could probably be selectively merged or deleted as well for being underpopulated with actual articles. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:15, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for failing LISTN and for not including Confusion. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:52, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to List of fictional settlements. Unsourced content can be tagged for sourcing and deleted entirely if sources are not forthcoming, but some of these describe what could be called "city-states", and it's not clear that a state can not be a settlement as much as a city. BD2412 T 06:33, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Löschen - There is almost no sourced content in the article, only a small handful of examples listed are actually blue-linked (and most of those are not even links to actual articles on the supposed subject), and half of the article is on random fictional countries/settlements/etc. that are not "states of the United States". I am honestly not seeing anything that is actually salvageable here. Rorshacma (talk) 07:51, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- It's rather sad that more attention has been paid to sourcing a throwaway gag from one episode of a television series from 2013, one of the few things in the article for which a source is given, than to hyperlinking the state of Ames to the quite real Ames Moot Court Competition. Uncle G (talk)
Delete Don't see a lot of notability in the 'fictional' states. Orientls (talk) 12:45, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Way too much of this is unsourced.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:56, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - just a mess of unsourced, unlinked and trivial junk. I think I sense SNOW, folks. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:23, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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