Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loren Avedon

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The result was delete. Sandstein 18:24, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Loren Avedon

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Unclear notability. It appears that he was the lead for 3 martial arts films in the 1980s and 1990s, but unclear if that passes notability. Natg 19 (talk) 03:09, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep: He has starred in a number of martial arts films, but only a few seem to be moderately noteworthy, like No Retreat, No Surrender 2 and No Retreat, No Surrender 3: Blood Brothers. I think the bigger issue is sourcing, though. Dflaw4 (talk) 04:06, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete a non-notable actor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:09, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:46, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Doesn't meet the notability criteria for martial aritsts or actors. The only thing sourced in the article is his birth date. Fails to meet WP:MANOTE, WP:NACTOR, or WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 03:37, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The subject is mentioned in various books on martial arts films, including a book containing Variety film reviews. I’m not arguing that these references are sufficient or otherwise—simply that there are some book references out there:

→https://books.google.com.au/books?id=wHRZAAAAMAAJ&q=%22Loren+Avedon%22+-wikipedia&dq=%22Loren+Avedon%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiyjZz5nMTnAhUuxjgGHRa5BwwQ6AEIZjAH – the Variety film review for (it seems) No Retreat, No Surrender 2; I’m not able to see the full review, but would expect the subject’s performance to be commented on, since he was the film’s star

→https://books.google.com.au/books?id=MKEfDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA173&dq=%22Loren+Avedon%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiyjZz5nMTnAhUuxjgGHRa5BwwQ6AEINDAB#v=onepage&q=%22Loren%20Avedon%22%20-wikipedia&f=false – mention and brief review of the subject’s martial arts skills in the film, The King of the Kickboxers

→https://books.google.com.au/books?id=MKEfDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA173&dq=%22Loren+Avedon%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiyjZz5nMTnAhUuxjgGHRa5BwwQ6AEINDAB#v=onepage&q=%22Loren%20Avedon%22%20-wikipedia&f=false – reviews of some films the subject was in

→https://books.google.com.au/books?id=3r0yDJcHYtYC&pg=PA223&dq=%22Loren+Avedon%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiyjZz5nMTnAhUuxjgGHRa5BwwQ6AEIRzAD#v=onepage&q=%22Loren%20Avedon%22%20&f=false – several mentions in this book with respect to films he’s starred in, as well as a comment on his lack of output in more recent years

→There are other sources like this, too, and if the article were to remain, some of these could certainly be added. Dflaw4 (talk) 10:25, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Doesn't meet any notability standards for martial artists or actors. The sources mentioned above are not significant coverage. They're lists of movie casts, lists of martial arts actors, etc. They do not show the coverage needed to meet the GNG. Adding more of them won't make him any more notable.Sandals1 (talk) 15:30, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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