Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nathan Bradley (colonists)

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The result was delete‎. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:24, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nathan Bradley (colonists)

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only one citation mentions the subject, the rest cite a notable descendant, doesn't meet notability. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish)} 14:21, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are two sources that mention the subject, the autobiography of Ben Bradlee, A Good Life: Newspapering and other Adventures and then the History of the Bradley family with particular reference to Nathan Bradley of Dorchester, Mass., which I both reference. Quinnbradlee (talk) 14:29, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that you have mostly been editing this page - if I have that correct, I think you need to improve the way you use references. The whole point of referencing on en.wiki is to give an opportunity for other readers to find the sources for the information. In order to do that, there must be full references so that others can find the books. If you need help, you might need to ask for it. JMWt (talk) 14:44, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify the above editor has been working in good faith on the topic, but it is clearly not ready for mainspace until the references (which appear to be mostly offline) have been cited properly. JMWt (talk) 14:46, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I assume that when you say that I need to reference better you mean that I need to put link with my references? Quinnbradlee (talk) 15:03, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Its out of scope to discuss this here - but you'll need to look at WP:CITE and possibly discuss with others in your subject area how to cite historical records you are using. JMWt (talk) 15:09, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment this has been raised on the ANI board for anyone interested. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish)} 15:36, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, while this is nicely-researched, it's heavily dependent on primary sources, and is indistinguishable from private genealogical research such as might be carried out by a family member. In fact the only secondary sources are indeed written by family members. Much as I love the individual touch of history, we need something in depth, and written by someone unconnected with the family, to indicate that this is appropriate for Wikipedia rather than a proper genealogy site. Elemimele (talk) 15:48, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History and Massachusetts. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:21, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think then it might be nice if you could add something so that I would not look like genealogy research. Nathan Bradley was mention in my fathers' book and I am trying my beset to make it look I am not related in anyway. Quinnbradlee (talk) 18:44, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind. Just go ahead and delete the article if you really think it's that bad. I have been a member of Wikipedia for about five years and have made 100 edits, but I have never been able to write an article about a historic figure that I just so happen to be related to. I thought Wikipedia supposed to be for everyone as long as it does not violate any of its rules? I have dyslexia and I give up on Wikipedia. This too difficult and it's ridiculous how hard it is to write a simple little article. 4 Quinnbradlee (talk) 19:10, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I just compare and contrast with me. I was administrator for my church for several years. I happened to ring the bell for numerous church services, was married out of that church, ran and promoted a weekly concert program (for which I had a feature interview by the local newspaper), and that's pretty much all of the things that the subject did ... none of which are notable. (I didn't petition anyone to sell cider, but I was also an elected town official.) It's regrettable that the article creator feels hard done by that Wikipedia has policies and guidelines regarding article creation, but those standards are in place all the same. Ravenswing 21:06, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Article relies too much on primary sources, and even if they are not primary, they may be written by family members. HarukaAmaranth ^春 _香 00:55, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete -- A NN early colonist (not colonists), who happened to have some famous descendants. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:30, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not much in terms of significant coverage. Wikipedia is not a genealogy site. Best, GPL93 (talk) 12:00, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.