Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Naysha Lopez

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. While there is a slight majority to Redirect this article, there also a misperception that this is a one sentence article about a reality show contestant when it actually is a full-fledged article that appears to be well-sourced. So, I find the reasoning behind some of those arguing for a Redirect to be faulty and will default to Keeping this article. Of course, there is room for improvement but that is the case with all articles on the project. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:58, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Naysha Lopez

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The article doesn't answer to the criteria of WP:GNG and it lacks in-depth sourcing.Radiohist (talk) 01:56, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:44, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Lots of interviews, not much else. This is the best non-interview, and it's minor coverage [1]. I'd redirect to the article about that season of Drag Race. Oaktree b (talk) 16:46, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect: to RuPaul's Drag Race (season 8), per Oaktree b, WP:BLP1E applies. 2600:1700:9BF3:220:984F:BC09:7E73:6D6E (talk) 02:29, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify / Redirect to RPDR Season 8, based on a search of Google News, there are some articles about Naysha but they do all same to relate to their time on RPDR which would be WP:BLP1E. I know there's a staunch group of dedicated editors who create some great RPDR articles but I'm not sure that creating a one sentence stub with a view to "expanding in the future" is the best way to expand the collection of RPDR articles. Would much prefer to see more detailed stubs or actually creating articles AFTER the subject is notable. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 23:29, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Subject won the Miss Continental competition and has appeared in multiple television series. @Oaktree b and Lil-unique1: Does this mean WP:BLP1E does not apply? I'm also finding claims about the subject's pageant achievements out of drag, though there's not a Wikipedia entry for the Mr. Continental competition. Entry now has 20+ archived sources covering career and personal life (not to mention, publish dates span a decade). ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:32, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's possible keep now but still leaning towards redirect - why create one sentence articles instead of not creating a fully-fledged one in the mainspace when its ready? I'm not sure its detailed enough coverage to satisfy WP:SIGCOV. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 09:16, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand, this isn't a one-sentence article... ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:09, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Many RPDR articles are - they're created as one sentence (or a handful) of sentences just for the sake of creating them until they can be expanded. That's not how wikipedia works. You're supposed to create articles when you can already establish their notability. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 17:04, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion is about this article, for which notability seems to be established, not "many RPDR articles". The creation of such articles is precisely how Wikipedia works, per our editing policy. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:45, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so it's a BPL2E (two events), the individual is better known in relation to the TV show and hasn't had much coverage otherwise. I wouldn't exactly call their time on the TV as major either, the first person eliminated is hardly notable. It's a brief blip in relation to the entire run of the show. I suppose the beauty pageant adds to notability; I'd prefer a redirect as they just aren't known for the pageant, it's tangential to the time on the TV show. Oaktree b (talk) 02:52, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that's not true. The subject competed on Drag Race after winning Miss Continental. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:28, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
cautious keep/maybe redirect I think WP:BLP1E is meant to prevent an article being made about someone participating in a single newsworthy event, not someone who performs over multiple years and gets interviewed by Billboard[2] and The Advocate (magazine)[3]. I'm not sure what problems you're seeing with WP:GNG. Then again, I just had to remove a sentence on the article saying where he was living in 2020. It was probably a good faith edit, but a reminder we need to be very careful about notability with BLP. So maybe a redirect is best Sativa Inflorescence (talk) 04:44, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sativa Inflorescence Yes, 100% agree. It should be redirected into the season 8 article.Radiohist (talk) 08:04, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Rupaul's Drag Race *and* winning Miss Continental (a national beauty content *with* state level feeder ) definitely removes this from BLP1E as a criteria. (And as others have said, if "deleted" should simply be restored to a redirect.)Naraht (talk) 15:16, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Out of curiosity, does the Miss Continental competition have an article? Is that notable in its own right? Notability isn't inherited. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 17:05, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Miss Continental ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:51, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:28, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:21, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.