Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Rodgers (footballer) (2nd nomination)

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The result was Delete. WP:BIO for athletes is clear here. This can always be resuscitated when if/when he plays his first professional game (whether it be for Arsenal, Macclesfield or whoever.) Black Kite 23:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Rodgers (footballer)

Has not made an appearance in a fully professional league, so fails WP:ATHLETE. Crystal balling saved this article in the last AfD, but those predictions have thus far failed. Delete and recreate if Rodgers goes on to make a league appearance. robwingfield ^«T•C» 07:53, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. robwingfield ^«T•C» 07:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - he is a full professional, an England youth international and a registered first-team squad member for one of the largest clubs in the world. [1] The point of WP:ATHLETE is to prevent non-notable amateurs from inclusion or players without a professional contract from being included, not players at the highest level who are about to break through. Qwghlm (talk) 08:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:BIO#Athletes as he has never played in a fully professional league. Until he has done so there remains the chance that he will never actually make an appearance and disappear into obscurity. пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 08:51, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As above - no apps in a professional league even if he does has a pro contract--Egghead06 (talk) 08:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no first team appearances, no notability. --Angelo (talk) 10:07, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:FOOTY/Notability. The speculation that he is about to break through into the first team is irrelevant (WP:CRYSTAL), youth caps do not confer notability (Olympics excepted) playing in pre-season friendlies and having a contract/squad number neither. If he ever plays at professional level the article can easily be recreated. English peasant 10:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete' as non-notable. GiantSnowman (talk) 13:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per failing WP:ATHLETE. ArcAngel (talk) 13:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete nn BanRay 13:01, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep he is a professional young player of England. Since he plays in Arsenal, he is much better than players i suppose in Blakpool FC. Plus he is still very young and will still have a chance to shine. Maybe he will be the next John Terry of England. Since he is playing in the U-19 England, he should definitely shine. Of course with all those French and other World Cup Defenders, he can't start right now. Just wait several years and see what happens with him. --Shustfan (talk) 20:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Seems like a whole lot of crystal balling going on there....... ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:06, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep he plays for the Under-19 England team, so he will be and already is a notable player in English and World football. He should definitely stay. --Boguslav (talk) 20:48, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete^ It can always be remade once he is notable. Has one link (a PDF file I can't open). And I was wondering: How do we know when to make a decision on keep or delete (reply on my talk page)? Thanks. Mm40 (talk) 20:47, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:ATHLETE. See Nathan Delfouneso's most recent AfD. Struway2 (talk) 13:42, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.