Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Gagelmann

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) b uidhe 03:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Gagelmann

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No evidence of notability, no secondary sources found online or in article. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 23:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:15, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:15, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:15, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What about User:Cardiffbear88 the three secondary source in the existing de article? one, two, three? Nfitz (talk) 01:22, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nfitz #1 and #2 are passing mentions, and #3 is a press release. Not sure these would add anything to notability. Happy to be corrected if other sources can be found. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 08:29, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Article meets WP:GNG and should be expanded, not deleted. Gagelmann officiated 214 matches across 16 seasons of the Bundesliga, one of the most prominent football leagues in the world. There are clearly secondary sources available, as mentioned above. S.A. Julio (talk) 01:48, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The referee has refereed in one of the top leagues of the world and their would have to be some more sources than the three to better improve the notability of this referee. HawkAussie (talk) 05:31, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 20:09, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - meets GNG, nominator has clearly not complied with WP:BEFORE given patently false claims there are no online sources. Giant Snowman 20:11, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Giant please see my remarks for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norbert Grudzinski which also apply here. I always do WP:BEFORE and did not find anything to indicate notability - which does not include passing mentions and press releases.Cardiffbear88 (talk) 22:13, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - appears to be notable. Perhaps in future we should consider referees with years of work in the top 5 to 10 leagues in the world inherently notable. Nfitz (talk) 01:53, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Article about football referee who worked in the German top division for 15 years and is the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources (I added information from AZ and Aktiv to the article, and Focus covered a controversy involving Gagelmann in depth as well). Jogurney (talk) 15:28, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep meets WP:GNG. Wm335td (talk) 21:22, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:18, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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