Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Premier Boxing Champions

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Al Haymon. — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:19, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Premier Boxing Champions

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Was tagged by CSB on Copyvio grounds, then tagged for speedy deletion on promotional content grounds. Article's creator appears to have cleaned up the copyright material, but I am not convinced that this passes the nobility threshold for Wikipedia, so here we are. TomStar81 (Talk) 06:04, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I'm fairly new as a content creator and editor to the Wikipedia community so I apologize for any errors in procedure or inaccuracies in policies.

Can you help me better understand the nobility threshold? My intention was to not make a promotional page, but rather informational as this body of boxing fights is now in existence. I want to make sure that it's referenced properly and cited appropriately. I cleaned up a lot of the copyrighted material since it came strictly from a web site that I help manage. I purposely reworded everything to take the objective approach and not the marketing approach.

Ultimately, I'm not so concerned about the page being deleted, but I just want people to have a reference point when they do search PBC as it starts to go live on network television over the next several weeks.

Please advise on the best way to proceed.

Many thanks in advance.

Davenadkarni (talk) 06:23, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Userfy and recommend AfC - It's got sources and it seems to have potential. This new user is still just learning the ropes. No need for a full delete. — kikichugirl ^speak up! 07:46, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 07:55, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The article was clearly promotional (also COI) but even that is toned down a bit. The boxing events have not occurred yet but they are not too far in the future and the signing deals are sourced. I am on the fence for this one. Would like to see more independent sources and that may occur after one of these promised bouts actually happens.Peter Rehse (talk) 10:03, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- I had the same thought, and had initially entertained the idea of redirecting but with the date comparatively close it seemed a better idea to come here first. The pieces are all there, and I'm sure it can build into a well covered article, but at the moment its a little...schizophrenic. TomStar81 (Talk) 11:52, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Userfy None of the events have yet happened and this article will have nto be watched carefully to be sure it doesn't become promotional since all the fighters are managed by the same person.Mdtemp (talk) 16:33, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm I see your point and if true the article is somewhat disingenuous - I am sure the original editor (Davenadkarni) will speak up but if true I would vote Userfy if not a Redirect to Al Haymon.Peter Rehse (talk) 16:57, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I'm not quite sure how to vote on this article. It may become notable but I don't think it's there yet--especially considering there haven't been any events yet. I share the concern about the promotional aspects of a one manager show. I think cleaning up/trimming and then merging this article into Al Haymon seems like a good idea. Papaursa (talk)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NORTH AMERICA¹⁰⁰⁰ 16:46, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge I was not sure why this was relisted until I saw that all the Userfy votes were a little waffley. This article should be Merged to Al Haymon with no prejudice for re-creation once notability has been established after at least some events have occured.Peter Rehse (talk) 16:54, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge This is formalizing my above comment into an actual vote. I don't believe it currently merits an individual article, but it does seem like it might be significant for Al Haymon (and some of his fighters). Papaursa (talk) 17:35, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
merge to boxing 24.103.234.74 (talk) 21:04, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.