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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Floor Jansen. T. Canens (talk) 02:58, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Article does not assert any notability, and absolutely no third-party resources provided. No significant coverage found elsewhere. — Timneu22 · talk 12:38, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:25, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I feel it is relevant. After Forever were a significant band, and this is the lead singer's next band. I have no doubt the band's influence will increase, it seems odd to remove the article now. Their debut album just got released, so it follows their significance will now increase. Stoats (talk) 01:59, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- preceding user has few other edits
- Wikipedia is not a crystal ball; why can't the article wait until the band is notable? — Timneu22 · talk 10:33, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I feel it is relevant. After Forever were a significant band, and this is the lead singer's next band. I have no doubt the band's influence will increase, it seems odd to remove the article now. Their debut album just got released, so it follows their significance will now increase. Stoats (talk) 01:59, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- It's not uncommon in these debates for the comments of apparent single purpose accounts to be tagged as such. Sometimes there is off-site canvassing or abuse of mutiple accounts to "stack" votes. I'm not saying you are involved in any such things, but if we were to see a flood of SPAs it would tend to indicate one or the other of those things was happening. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:40, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- keep: The structure of this AFD page is a bit confusing to me... anyway.... Well, I don't care much about this band and the issue but here's my two cents: yes, the band is still a minor one in terms of notability. However the singer is from a significant band. If I'm not mistaken, in regard to wikipedia's guidelines this fact should secure a certain notability for this band. On the other hand I must admit the lack of sources is a concern indeed. Is that so difficult to find reliable for this band?Alpha Ursae Minoris (talk) 21:45, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I recently wondered what, if anything, Floor Jansen had been doing since After Forever, and was interested to read this article. As the other users have pointed out, although ReVamp aren't big yet, there's every likelihood that interest will grow, especialy as they've just released theit first album. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TelecasterDaveG (talk • contribs) 18:59, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- preceding user has no other edits. — Timneu22 · talk 19:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Lots of people have just released their first album. This doesn't make them notable. — Timneu22 · talk 19:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The relevant guideline here is WP:BAND. This band is borderline at best, I think that considering there is almost no actual content, and the "keep" arguments so far boil down to assertions that this band should or will be notable the best solution is probably to merge this content into Floor Jansen and convert this page to a redirect. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:36, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. —Beeblebrox (talk) 19:43, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect per Beeblebrox. No content + No reliable sources + WP:CRYSTAL = No article. There may be speculation that this will become notable, but again, that is WP:CRYSTAL. If this does become notable (with 3rd party references) then the redirect can be converted back to an article. --Fiftytwo thirty (talk) 19:56, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment There are some GNews results. If anybody can read Norwegian, some of these could be reliable sources. --Fiftytwo thirty (talk) 20:03, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I ran a few through Google Translator, and they were all similar to the Blabbermouth reference in the article. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 20:11, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into Floor Jansen until band meets a guideline in WP:BAND. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 20:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or Merge - Despite being a fan of AF and liking the first Revamp album, I am in favor of waiting until this can become more that a stub, as of right now this article has little encyclopedic value as of yet, that is not covered elsewhere, in the Floor Jansen or After Forever articles. Sephiroth storm (talk) 22:21, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 00:29, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - not yet notable, its a redirect, nothing to merge at all as the content is already at Floor_Jansen. Off2riorob (talk) 01:52, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete/redirect - This band does not appear to pass any of the WP:BAND criteria, and I couldn't find any sources to satisfy WP:GNG. P. D. Cook Talk to me! 02:24, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.