Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Real-time control

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The result was redirect to Real-time computing. (non-admin closure) Kharkiv07 (T) 14:23, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Real-time control

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This page is empty of content. "Popular" -- with whom? "A certain class" -- what class? "For effective digital control..." is dubious, and the last sentence makes no sense without context. Those three short sentences are the whole article.

If "real time control" means anything (besides the "Real-time Control System", which is a specific thing produced by NIST that has its own substantial Wikipedia page), it can only mean "control carried out in real time". But all control systems work in "real time". The humble room thermostat keeps the room temperature constant "in real time", the quoted phrase adding nothing to the sentence. A Google search of "real time control" does not turn up anything referring to a generic sense of the phrase. "Real time" means something in relation to software: software that must keep up with some external process, as opposed to software that can take however long it takes to produce its result. But a controller must keep up with the system it is controlling; all control systems are real time.

In short, there is nothing for this article to be about. The article has had no substantial revision since it was created in 2004.

RichardKennaway (talk) 13:52, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Control theory. Real time control is now going to be digital, but it was once analog. It's a sensible redirect but it adds nothing to the existing article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:33, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:43, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

delete per WP:TNT. "Real-time control" does not mean the same scope as control theory, although that's strongly implied by the current content. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:31, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or redirect?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J 947 00:17, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: would a redirect to Real-time computing ~~be more relevant?~~

Note to RichardKennaway: "real time" is used both strictly and loosely in computing; the strict definition is relevant to control systems and basically means guaranteed response time. There are plenty of control systems, such as the thermostat you mentioned, that don't (need to) meet this criterion. --pmj (talk) 00:04, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to redirect based on general approval from MadScientistX11. --pmj (talk) 10:35, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

delete Or redirect to Real-time computing. But I would vote for just delete. As far as I can tell this is really about a certain type of digital controller and so could be an additional section in the article Digital control. But there is essentially nothing but a definition in the article now and this is not Wiktionary. I also agree that Real time control is not the same as control theory (any more than Real-time computing is the same as computing). --MadScientistX11 (talk) 21:58, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 01:53, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Real-time computing, per above. Deletion is also an option, but WP:CHEAP... — Gamall Wednesday Ida (t · c) 13:26, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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