Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert M. Emery

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The result was redirect to Mira (AK-84). Yunshui ^雲 _水 11:53, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Robert M. Emery

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Fails the notability guideline for military personnel. It's a great honor to have a ship named after you and those of us from the US are certainly all proud and grateful for this man's service. However, since the naming of that particular class of ship is designated to be winners of the Distinguished Service Cross and our cut-off for presumed notability is at the Medal of Honor, a higher award, without further reason, that alone is not enough to show notability. It would need to be shown that this person would meet ANYBIO, and it does not appear he does. John from Idegon (talk) 22:06, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It could be redirected to Mira (AK-84), the ship named after this person. LaundryPizza03 (talk) 23:15, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. PriceDL (talk) 23:53, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. PriceDL (talk) 23:53, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. PriceDL (talk) 23:53, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Löschen does not meet the notability guidelines for soldiers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:43, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- What about WP:GNG? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:26, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Mira (AK-84), the ship named after the subject, per LaundryPizza03. I'm slightly shocked that someone for whom a ship and a military barracks were named after doesn't have any significant discussion in sources, but after having a search I found nothing. A Train^talk 15:43, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Mira (AK-84). I strongly disagree with the nom - not meeting the SOLDIER cutoff is merely lack of presumption of notability not an indication of non-notability and having two significant objects (a barracks and a ship) named after you would actually be quite a presumption of notability. HOWEVER, as A Train, I was unable to locate any solid sourcing here to show GNG. Worthwhile to redirect to the ship and/or barracks. Content already seems to be in Mira (AK-84) and Emery Barracks so not much to merge.Icewhiz (talk) 16:12, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- As I've mentioned before elsewhere, there seems to be a "the world turned upside down" effect happening or having happened with the SNGs, where they're being considered to be a higher bar than GNG, i.e. "meets GNG but fails SOLDIER = not notable", and that is a genuinely worrying thing. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:26, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Mira (AK-84), as above; oddly absent in sources, but 'most notable' in relation to the ship named for him. Perhaps a hatnote to the barracks should be added. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:28, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - using the search "Tuffy Emory"[sic?], I find a bit more material about him at MIT, but I am not sure I disagree that the page should redirect. I'm of the opinion that obituaries and memorials alone don't necessarilly give us enough to write a NPOV article about a subject, especially as these memorials might say more about the influence of the father than about the life of the son. One article on newspapers.com about his death ([1]) says he was a champion lightweight wrestler at MIT, but I can't find coverage that confirms or discusses his college career. If he were a national or regional champion, he would probably have a lot more coverage, so I'm not sure what is going on there. Smmurphy^(Talk) 21:41, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – has had two notable things named after him so I assume there's significant coverage of him somewhere even if we can't find it. Might suggest redirection if only one were named after him, but there are two equally appropriate targets. PriceDL (talk) 00:40, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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