Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rootdown

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The result was no consensus. Skomorokh 07:20, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rootdown

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Band lacking in notability of musical groups. Don't be fooled by the bluelink on Paul Wright- it's a disambiguation. Google News does not turn up any in-depth reliable sources. tedder (talk) 22:31, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. -- tedder (talk) 22:32, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. -- tedder (talk) 22:32, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete although I thought this: "charted in the top fifteen of the Air 1 radio chart. ROOTDOWN also has other accomplishments from "Summer of Love" including rising to as high as number 6 on the ITunes top reggae albums chart." might help for notability, a) Air 1 is a local radio station and isn't a national chart as required per WP:BAND, and b) AFAIK iTunes doesn't count as a "national chart" (correct me if I'm wrong). Google searches turn up nothing particularly promising. SMC (talk) 23:10, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I can't find significant coverage for this band. Joe Chill (talk) 00:27, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. These are the concerns that led me to tag it for notability earlier. Thank you, tedder and SMC, for looking into the details. ~YellowFives 02:21, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Air 1 Radio is a NATIONAL radio station aired nationwide and also internationally. It is a subsidiary of KLOVE. I am not sure what you found was wrong with the blue tag on Paul Wright as he founded the band, was signed on a major label and has been nominated for a Grammy in the past. spartannumber33 (talk) 22:08, 28 November 2009

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This band meets the notability because they have had a single chart on the radio in accordance to: 2) Has had a charted single or album on any national music chart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jazzvsbulls (talk • contribs) 06:48, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —J04n(talk page) 11:44, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: It's silly to use Google News as a measure of coverage. Tons of people and organizations who deserve Wikipedia entries wouldn't show up on Google News on a particular day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doylesrader (talk • contribs) 23:39, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay then, if not news searches (for which Google News is the most vast), what do you think we should use as a "measure of coverage" for bands? There's nothing else on offer in the way of reputable third-party sources with which to establish notability and verifiability. SMC (talk) 05:28, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - assuming it can be proven, a National tour counts towards WP:BAND - "4. Has received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.[note 4]" - and if so, then I would favor a keep. Bearian (talk) 19:46, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I found some substantial local coverage[1][2][3] and one niche review.[4] Not sure if this is enough to meet the WP:GNG. I am unconvinced that the stated charting history meets the requirement in WP:BAND for charting in national charts, which doesn't mean genre or online charts. Fences&Windows 20:07, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Per coverage found by Fences.--Epeefleche (talk) 23:20, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep While no single element of WP:BAND is completely met, there are enough that are almost met to warrant keeping. Specifically, things like the articles found by Fences, the inclusion of a (instead of two) notable musician (Paul Wright, whose blue link is NOT just a disambiguation), a national tour, etc. Vulture19 (talk) 03:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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