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Category:Northern Rock Foundation Writers Award Winners

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Tiptoety talk 01:59, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Northern Rock Foundation Writers Award Winners (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete Non-category-worthy award; not defining for recipients. Award has no article; it is awarded by the Northern Rock Foundation, but the award is not mentioned in the relevant article at all. If desired and thought to be notable, a list could be created. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:36, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Parishes

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The result of the discussion was: rename ones in England as nominated; no action on rest. (Note: w.r.t. Peterkingiron's comment, please re-nominate Winchester for reversion to the original name if it's determined that this is indeed an inappropriate name for this one.) I'm closing the rest as a purely technical close because of the difficult of discussing them all together. In other words, this close is without any prejudice to future discussions on them. Clearly, these need to be discussed individually on a by-county (or at least by-region) basis, so re-nomination on this basis is encouraged. Rather than me relisting them all, I think things would go smoother if users research the usage in a particular area and then decide whether or not to re-nominate for a name change. Because of the nature of the close, no notation recording this nomination will be placed on the category talk pages. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Europe to Category:Civil parishes in Europe
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Andorra to Category:Civil parishes in Andorra
Propose renaming Category:Parishes in Asturias to Category:Civil parishes in Asturias
Propose renaming Category:Parishes in Gijón to Category:Civil parishes in Gijón
Propose renaming Category:Parishes in Oviedo to Category:Civil parishes in Oviedo
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of the Channel Islands to Category:Civil parishes in the Channel Islands
Propose renaming Category:Parishes in Guernsey to Category:Civil parishes in Guernsey
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Jersey to Category:Civil parishes in Jersey
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Denmark to Category:Civil parishes in Denmark
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Ireland to Category:Civil parishes in Ireland
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Northern Ireland to Category:Civil parishes in Northern Ireland
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of the Republic of Ireland to Category:Civil parishes in the Republic of Ireland
Propose renaming Category:Parishes in Latvia to Category:Civil parishes in Latvia
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Portugal to Category:Civil parishes in Portugal
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of the United Kingdom to Category:Civil parishes in the United Kingdom
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Scotland to Category:Civil parishes in Scotland
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Wales to Category:Civil parishes in Wales
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Ceredigion to Category:Civil parishes in Ceredigion
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of England to Category:Civil parishes in England
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Bedfordshire to Category:Civil parishes in Bedfordshire
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Buckinghamshire to Category:Civil parishes in Buckinghamshire
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Cheshire to Category:Civil parishes in Cheshire
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Cumbria to Category:Civil parishes in Cumbria
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Derbyshire to Category:Civil parishes in Derbyshire
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Devon to Category:Civil parishes in Devon
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of the East Riding of Yorkshire to Category:Civil parishes in the East Riding of Yorkshire
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Essex to Category:Civil parishes in Essex
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Gloucestershire to Category:Civil parishes in Gloucestershire
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Hampshire to Category:Civil parishes in Hampshire
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of the Isle of Wight to Category:Civil parishes in the Isle of Wight
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Lancashire to Category:Civil parishes in Lancashire
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of North Yorkshire to Category:Civil parishes in North Yorkshire
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Suffolk to Category:Civil parishes in Suffolk
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Tyne and Wear to Category:Civil parishes in Tyne and Wear
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Winchester to Category:Civil parishes in Winchester
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of North America to Category:Civil parishes in North America
Propose renaming Category:Townships and parishes of Canada to Category:Townships and civil parishes in Canada
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of New Brunswick to Category:Civil parishes in New Brunswick
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Prince Edward Island to Category:Civil parishes in Prince Edward Island
Propose renaming Category:Louisiana parishes to Category:Civil parishes in Louisiana
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Mexico to Category:Civil parishes in Mexico
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of the Caribbean to Category:Civil parishes in the Caribbean
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Antigua and Barbuda to Category:Civil parishes in Antigua and Barbuda
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Barbados to Category:Civil parishes in Barbados
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Dominica to Category:Civil parishes in Dominica
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Grenada to Category:Civil parishes in Grenada
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Jamaica to Category:Civil parishes in Jamaica
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Montserrat to Category:Civil parishes in Montserrat
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Saint Kitts and Nevis to Category:Civil parishes in Saint Kitts and Nevis
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines to Category:Civil parishes in Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of South America to Category:Civil parishes in South America
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Ecuador to Category:Civil parishes in Ecuador
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Asia to Category:Civil parishes in Asia
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Australasia to Category:Church parishes in Oceania
Propose renaming Category:Parishes of Australia to Category:Church parishes in Australia
Nominator's rationale: Rename. More accurate name, and consistent with other "civil parishes in" categories. The word "in" is preferred in Wikipedia category names. (See also this discussion.) --Carlaude (talk) 20:37, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support they should be refered to as "civil parishes", not "parishes"! Jolly Ω Janner 22:22, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This is a broad assumption, not all of these are actually civil Parishes. E.g. Barbados doesn't have actual local government at the Parish level any longer and thus they are not Civil Parishes any longer. Civil Parishes historical went hand in hand with the Vestry system (e.g. with a Parish Church etc.) but I think many smaller islands in the Caribbean have abolished this form of local governance because they are so small there's hardly a need to have a whole lower tier of government. Jamaica I believe still has Civil Parish style governance but I can't imagine for example Montserrat still having Civil Parishes with all kinds of elected officials when they only have something like 3 parishes to cover their whole island. Nevis is small too, and would need tons of elected people to cover such a small island. About Civil Parishes CaribDigita (talk) 01:55, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment:These are not assumptions-- these are actually civil parishes. Please read the articles before making these Oppose votes.
  • Reading Parishes of Barbados will show that "The country of Barbados is currently subdivided into administrative sub-regions known as parishes." These articles are about civil parishes -- not a church parishes nor parish churches. But if you think that there is a better word that "civil" let us know.
Likewise Montserrat is indeed "divided into three parishes" they are "administrative parishes" Your outside link is for Civil Parishes in Britain. These islands use the name parish but need not use the same system. --Carlaude (talk) 16:22, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reply:"Actually Barbados, Montserrat, Jamaica etc. and others are based on the British system. As are most of the other English Speaking islands. Source. All I'm merely saying is that a "Civil parish" system of government has been removed long ago. They are now just simple Parish areas. But if you want to name them Civil parishes which is totally a horse of a different colour and different meaning. Go ahead, I was merely trying to inform the wikipedian community that a Civil parish is something completely different.
Reply about "administrative sub-regions: Furthermore "administrative sub-regions" was yet another vote taken on Wikipedia during a mass rename. That is a clear example of what happens when misinformation is peddled during mass rename votes. It cascades on into the future. The Barbados government says the Parishes system in Barbados are not "administrative sub-regions" but I left this mis-information alone because it was by vote. I just did a quick search and found one site which still has this note from the Government of Barbados to the United States government regarding this misinformation. [1] CaribDigita (talk) 08:56, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think you have stated this much clearer now, and while I still disagree, you also seem to have no objections to cite for the parish systems in Asia, Europe, South America, and the rest of North America. --Carlaude (talk) 16:33, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support for accuracy and consistency. --Eastlaw (talk) 02:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, per nom. DuncanHill (talk) 18:00, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support (certainly as far as English civil parishes go) Andy F (talk) 18:18, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Techical closure is needed. This nomination is much too broad, and needs to be dealt with in a series of separate discussions. The original English system was of ecclesiatical parishes that took on civil fucntions. In the 1890s, church vestries were deprived of their civil powers, which were conferred on Parish Councils. I therefore Support all nominations relating to England (except Winchester - which proably refers to the diocese). I Oppose the nominations for Wales, where the target should be "communities". For Louisiana, Parishes are the equivalent of counties in the other states, and so should be retained unchanged. In countries where the parish is a mere geographical designation, the plain "Parish" should probably be retained. For the rest, Oppose: there should be a no consensus or otehr technical closure, as I think that most of us discussing this do not have the requisite knowledge. From the discussion above, it is clear that the West Indies need separate discussion, as do those in the rest of Asia, Europe, South America, and the rest of North America. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Category:Parishes of North America and sub categories, Rename Category:Parishes of England to Category:Civil parishes in England and the sub categories, and relist the remaining. The relisting is best done in smaller related groups. I think there is consensus for the rename and clearly the North America ones are not civil parishes. No need to reach a no consensus decision on the entire lot. I think that facts support this as a concensus action. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Alexandra Burke

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Tiptoety talk 02:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Alexandra Burke (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete Only one category, one template, and one article. The latter two are up for deletion as well for being empty. Sceptre (talk) 18:24, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Alexandra Burke songs

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Tiptoety talk 02:05, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Alexandra Burke songs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete Useless category; the two singles are linked to each other on each of the article pages. Sceptre (talk) 18:23, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Pokémon video game mechanics

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Tiptoety talk 03:21, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Pokémon video game mechanics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete Overcategorization—we don't need an entire category for the gameplay of one video game series. Pagrashtak 15:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Richmond, California ships

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:50, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Richmond, California ships to Category:Ships built in Richmond, California
Nominator's rationale: Despite the inclusion criteria specified on the category page itself, the category seems to only include articles on ships that were built in Richmond, California. Proposed rename will bring the category in line with naming style of categories in Category:Ships by country of construction, and, more specifically, the subcategories in Category:Ships built in the United States. Bellhalla (talk) 15:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Losing major party presidential nominees

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Vegaswikian's rationale is compelling. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:26, 26 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Losing major party presidential nominees (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete Category is ill-defined: what does it means by "losing"? It seems to exclude those who won the presidency but then lost a re-election bid (e.g. Carter, GHWB) and also excludes those who lost an election but then later won (e.g. Nixon). It seems to only look at Democrats and Republicans, and ignore past major parties (e.g. Charles Cotesworth Pinckney the Federalist, Hugh Lawson White the Whig). It seems to exclude third-party candidates got a large vote and had a major effect (e.g. Perot in 1992). The category is thus not useful in understanding U.S. presidential elections. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep/Consider Rename It appears to me that this category is intended to include people who came in second (and not better) while running for President of the United States. Coming in second in the race for President of the United States is a pretty strong defining characteristic, and for most of the individuals listed in this category it is their most defining characteristic. I've heard of this John McCain guy and I knew about what George McGovern and Walter Mondale did other than run for President, but most people couldn't describe Al Smith, Adlai Stevenson, Samuel J. Tilden or Wendell Willkie other than that guy who lost the Presidency (if there's any recognition) and I'd probably say the same for Michael Dukakis. This is a US category, and the country should be mentioned, and I agree that there is no reason that this should be limited to Republicans and Democrats (or why those categories should be in this category at all) and exclude Whigs and Federalists. I have no issue with excluding winning candidates and excluding candidates from most third parties. I agree that some wording should reflect candidates such as John B. Anderson, George Wallace and Ross Perot, exemplars of third-party candidates who made significant impacts on their presidential races, though I'm not sure how that can be included without setting an arbitrary cutoff. While I agree with many of the issues raised in the nomination, this is still a defining and useful category even if a better name and definition would improve it. Alansohn (talk) 17:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as arbitrary if any implementable definition could even be set. To limit it to the person who finished with the second-highest number of electoral college votes would be arbitrary, and also relatively "modernist", since the habit of only two candidates winning electoral votes is a new one that has not even been adhered to fairly recently (George Wallace). If we instead chose to limit this to candidates who won a certain percentage of the popular vote (so as to incorporate Perot and Anderson, for example), the selection of the cut-off percentage would again be arbitrary, and it would also pose problems again for the early presidential elections when electoral votes were not determined by popular vote totals in all states, and there are some elections for which popular vote totals are not even available. The suggestion to limit it to second-place finishers and "third-party candidates who made significant impacts on their presidential races", is, of course, inherently problematic for definitional problems, as acknowledged. I think, in the end, the concept that this category is trying to capture is well-covered by the well-organized and fairly comprehensive subcategories of Category:United States presidential candidates (arranged by election year and party), so there's no significant data being lost here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 20:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • rename Category:Losing major party US presidential candidates. "US" must be included as many other countries have elective predidential systems. It is difficult to know what to do about people like George Wallace and Ross Perot. They gave the two major party candidates a serious challenge. I suspect the answer may be to include them but define the category more precisely in a headnote on the category page, possibly that the candidate needs to be been on the ballot paper in at least 30 states (I am neutral as to the precise number). This will exclude the hopeless and joke candidates. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:44, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Is everyone who could be listed defined by losing? If not, this would be OCAT. Is dropping out of the nomination process before the first primary losing? The category parents imply that it is for republican and democrats only, were there no other major parties? Has abritary inclusion criteria. Presidential elections already has an ample categorization scheme. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:52, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - per numerous comments above and as inferior to the existing candidates scheme. It can be deduced that any presidential candidate who is not also in Category:Presidents of the United States is a losing candidate and it is potentially confusing to have one-term presidents like Jimmy Carter categorized both as a president and as a losing candidate. Otto4711 (talk) 18:57, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Movies based on Tuticorin

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:27, 26 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Movies based on Tuticorin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete or Rename. This seems a bit obscure for a category; currently it only contains one article, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. At the very least it needs to be renamed to Category:Films set in Tuticorin per other categories in Category:Films by city of setting, or better still Category:Films set in Thoothukudi, as that's the name for the city we're using here on Wikipedia. PC78 (talk) 09:16, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Indian district templates

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The result of the discussion was: rename; requested by creator and no opposition. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:31, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:Indian district templates to Category:India district templates
Nominator's rationale: creator asking to delete the cats and merge to cat:India district templates -- Tinu Cherian - 07:52, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Corporate welfare recipients

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:51, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Corporate welfare recipients (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete Based on the category introduction, this would include just about every corporation. It is not a defining enough characteristic for it to be mentioned in affected company articles. Is open to POV issues. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
An excellent point. But of course, it's awfully hard to prove a negative... Cgingold (talk) 14:16, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:IHF Awards

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:IHF Awards to Category:International Handball Federation awards
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Spell out the initialism to avoid ambiguity. Also, awards should be all lowercase per WP:MOS. Stepheng3 (talk) 06:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Hillsong

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:53, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Hillsong to Category:Hillsong Church
Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match the main article name and remove any ambiguity. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:09, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Lower Colorado River Valley flora categories

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The result of the discussion was: merge all to Category:North American desert flora. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:29, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: a mish-mash of flora categories covering a collection of nested and overlapping geographical features within a small area, none of which appear to be floristically significant. This is overcategorisation; delete, listify (if anyone is so inclined) and upmerge to Category:Flora of North America Category:North American desert flora. Hesperian 05:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:The Misfits

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The result of the discussion was: rename/merge (see also immediately below). Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:55, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:The Misfits to Category:Misfits (band)
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Disambiguate and match main article. See also the following nomination. Stepheng3 (talk) 05:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Misfits

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The result of the discussion was: rename (see also immediately above). Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:55, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Misfits to Category:Misfits (band)
Nominator's rationale: Rename. To disambiguate and match the main article. Stepheng3 (talk) 05:30, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Post-apocalyptic science fiction films

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:54, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Post-apocalyptic science fiction films to Category:Post-apocalyptic films
Nominator's rationale: Not all post-apocalyptic films are science fiction. The corresponding article was also renamed for the same reason. The other categories in Category:Post-apocalyptic fiction also omit the "science fiction" part. Also, overcategorization - narrow intersection. - kollision (talk) 05:22, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Alcoholism

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:50, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:Alcoholism to Category:Alcohol abuse
Nominator's rationale: Merge, Redundant categories. Gilliam (talk) 03:09, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:African American figure skaters

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Tiptoety talk 03:23, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:African American figure skaters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete Was previously discussed and deleted. No new rationale for creation. . Kolindigo (talk) 02:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, entirely understandable. If you're so inclined, you're free to withdraw the nomination. Cgingold (talk) 04:07, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've gone through all of the articles to make sure they're all included in both categories -- and I added the following "invisible note" for editors: "Please leave in both of the following categories." Cgingold (talk) 23:41, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Montenegro border crossings

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 04:05, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Montenegro border crossings to Category:Border crossings of Montenegro
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Please consider this as a "test case". Right now, the subcategories of Category:International border crossings mostly use the form "Fooian border crossings". To conform, this one would be Category:Montenegrin border crossings. I find the current usage of "fooian" kind of weird; Category:Border crossings of Montenegro would make more sense to me. They are all subcategories of the categories "Geography of Foo", not "Fooian geography". Subcategories of these categories that intersect two countries' borders use "Foo-Goo border crossings", not "Fooian-Gooian border crossings". So here I'm tentatively suggesting a rename to the "Border crossings of Foo" format for all of the subcategories of Category:International border crossings. If there is consensus here for that change, then I will nominate all of them after this nomination has closed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People of mixed Asian-Black African-European ethnicity

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Tiptoety talk 03:24, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:People of mixed Asian-Black African-European ethnicity (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Holy cow—what a category! There's no doubt about this being a fairly pure example of a "triple intersection". These are not prohibited in an inherent way, but are generally discouraged because they are usually quite narrow. Right now Tiger Woods is the only article in the category; perhaps it was created especially for him? Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - holy cow, indeed. (Looks like being 'Americans of mixed Asian-Black African-European ethnicity' which is arguably a quadruple intersection. Also Asian-Black African-European doesn't parse elegantly.) Occuli (talk) 13:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Monégasque Orchestras

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. There was no opposition and the caps need fixing so renaming makes sense. As to the 'é', generally there has been support to avoid the use of these characters so it is reasonable to make this change, again, given the lack of opposition. Vegaswikian (talk) 04:12, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Monégasque Orchestras to Category:Monegasque orchestras
Nominator's rationale: Rename. I tried once to get a consensus to spell "Monégasque" correctly in category names, but failed, so this category should conform to the diacritic-less spelling. The caps also needs fixed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment One could finesse the diacritics by making it Category:Orchestras of Monte Carlo, though I do recognize that the standard appears to be Fooian orchestras. Alansohn (talk) 02:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think in the previous discussion there was some mention of using that approach (using "of Monaco", mind you, since that's the name of the country). It's a good idea I think and perhaps an idea that someone could propose in a nomination. But then (ominous music), once this format was accepted for one country, we might run into trouble of how to decide that a country's adjective is weird enough to convert to the "Foo of ..." usage. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dominican volleyball clubs

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 04:07, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Dominican volleyball clubs to Category:Domincan Republic volleyball clubs Category:Dominican Republic volleyball clubs
Nominator's rationale: Rename. We generally use "Dominican Republic" as the adjective for that country due to the super-ambiguity of "Dominican". Much precedent for this. (Just imagine—a volleyball club for Dominican friars and nuns!) Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support rename per nom. - Stepheng3 (talk) 21:15, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Night-Sky Photography

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 04:01, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:Night-Sky Photography to Category:Astrophotography
Nominator's rationale: Merge/delete. Essentially duplicates: Category:Night-Sky Photography contains only Astrophotography, which is already in category of the same name. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:33, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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