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Out, damned hyphen

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The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 20:54, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2A stales; all are the same obvious grammatical error of MOS:HYPHEN: Avoid using a hyphen after a standard -ly adverb (a newly available home, a wholly owned subsidiary). All others in Special:Search/Category:intitle:fully protected are correctly unhyphenated. Note prior mass renaming/redirecting of category mishyphenations. 73.93.5.246 (talk) 23:05, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
vertically discussion
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Category:Rurikids

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The result of the discussion was: reverse merge. C2D per RM. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:20, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories (and soon only one). Marcocapelle (talk) 21:23, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that we don't need two redundant categories, but imo "Rurikids" should stays as "Rurik dynasty" is improper name (btw Rurik dynasty should be renamed). Marcelus (talk) 07:26, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 07:36, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Hah, you're suggesting what I've been meticulously preparing for some days. :) I've Template:Diffused both cats as far as possible, and what we're left with is two almost identical cats. Per WP:C2D Category:Rurik dynasty should be the name of the merged cat, but I think the word "dynasty" may be a bit unhelpful here, because it suggests everyone in it was a "dynast" or "ruler". en:wikt:dynasty defines it as A series of rulers or dynasts from one family. That means Olga of Kiev would, strictly speaking, fall outside the scope of "dynasty", because she was only a princess consort and then regent. More importantly, it would have to apply to every single person in the subcategories, which it doesn't. Therefore, a Reverse merge may be an even better idea. I think it may also be a good idea to rename the main article to "Rurikids" rather than "Rurik dynasty", but that may require an RM. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk)
(after edit conflict) Ah, I see Marcelus agrees with me. :) Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 07:35, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcelus Do you think we would need an WP:RM to rename Rurik dynasty to Rurikids? I'd be happy to initiate it. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 08:02, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think we should, for the reasons I gave above and below Marcelus (talk) 19:21, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:SVG Bleiburg players

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 16#Category:SVG Bleiburg players

Category:Belgrano de Parana footballers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) ClydeFranklin (talk) 00:29, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No evidence that the club is notable, plays in the fourth tier of Argentinian football, no article in English wiki. Geregen2 (talk) 19:30, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Daughters of the Grand Prince of Kiev

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The result of the discussion was: rename as proposed. Caps can be discussed separately. (non-admin closure) ClydeFranklin (talk) 00:31, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:C2E WP:C2B I just created this category myself, but then realised that the convention in Category:Daughters of monarchs is that the latter should be in plural. Btw I'm not sure whether 'Grand Princes' should be capital or lowercase G and P in this case. I wouldn't mind either way. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:02, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Recurring events

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:24, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete and merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Most do not need any merging because they are already in YYYY establishments tree and Festivals established in century tree. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:09, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Festivals established in the 12th century

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) ClydeFranklin (talk) 00:32, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge per WP:SMALLCATAidan721 (talk) 17:02, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:New Latin-language poets

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) ClydeFranklin (talk) 00:34, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The main article Neo-Latin has been renamed to be consistent with current research into the topic, which uses the term Neo-Latin rather than New Latin. Renaming the category would match general practice. Additionally Neo-Latin poetry is a commonly researched topic, so this would be a natural and conventional term. (Apologies for starting the process as I wasn't aware of it; I should have realised.) Jim Killock (talk) 16:38, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Industrial buildings

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) ClydeFranklin (talk) 00:34, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To match Category:Buildings and structures and to reflect the contents of the category. For example, neither an oil platform nor a windmill are buildings but both are located in this category. User:Namiba 15:50, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Companies based in Winchester, Massachusetts

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) ClydeFranklin (talk) 00:35, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT (1 article). User:Namiba 15:28, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Buildings and structures in West Tisbury, Massachusetts

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) ClydeFranklin (talk) 00:36, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Small cat (1 article) which is already in the appropriate subcategories. User:Namiba 15:25, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Music festivals by date of establishment

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The result of the discussion was: merge and delete. (non-admin closure) ClydeFranklin (talk) 00:37, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete and merge per WP:SMALLCAT. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:05, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:West Sumatra sportspeople

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) ClydeFranklin (talk) 00:46, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Both categories have the same intention Stvbastian (talk) 13:52, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Kievan Rus' nuns

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The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated. plicit 02:18, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up "Kievan Rus' people" > "People from Kievan Rus'" etc. and other People from Fooland precedents. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 12:28, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Futher comment, renaming is especially useful here because Kievan Rus' was not a country in modern sense (as the current name suggests) but rather a geographical concept referring to all principalities that once belonged to Kiev and were mostly ruled by various branches of the Rurik dynasty. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:58, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well yeah, I mostly agree, except that I would call it a political rather than geographical concept. It was just as real, but just as divided, decentralised and disintegrative as the Holy Roman Empire. Like the HRE, Kievan Rus' was dysfunctional whenever there was no strong central monarchy, or otherwise a significantly institutionalised federal state/government whose unity and capacity to function wouldn't depend on the presence of a capable monarch and a smooth, peaceful transfer of power. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:48, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Second comment, for princesses as spouses of ruling princes, the preposition "in" might be a bit more appropriate than "from", but I do not think that the category is limited to spouses of rulers, so never mind about that. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:58, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle Exactly. I also thought "in" was a good solution for a while, but these princesses (and princes) weren't necessarily tied to Kievan Rus' in a physical or legal sense. "Princess" can also just refer to a daughter of the Grand Prince of Kiev who is married off to a stranger to strengthen his alliance with Poland. The only "Kievan Rus'" thing about her at that point is that she was originally from Kievan Rus'. The rename proposal thus describes her better. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:54, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Balinese sportspeople

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) ClydeFranklin (talk) 00:47, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Both categories have the same intention Stvbastian (talk) 12:08, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Unpopulated villages in Turkey

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 28#Category:Unpopulated villages in Turkey

Category:Rostislavichi family

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) ClydeFranklin (talk) 00:48, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To avoid confusion with Category:Rostislavichi family (Smolensk). The progenitor was Rostislav of Tmutarakan. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 10:03, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:NUManimation

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The result of the discussion was: rename. No quorum. (non-admin closure) ClydeFranklin (talk) 00:49, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Capitalization TheDarkX (talk) 04:21, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Time loop

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) ClydeFranklin (talk) 00:49, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Retain naming scheme of parent category, Category:Fiction about time travel. Ystapnivri (talk) 07:56, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please Reply to icon mention me on reply) 03:48, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:List of AA Films distributed Hindi Dubbed films

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 22#Category:List of AA Films distributed Hindi Dubbed films

Category:Soviet emigrants

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) ClydeFranklin (talk) 00:50, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per form of the parent Category:Emigrants from former countries. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:25, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 00:13, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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