The reason for its deletion was that it was not a notable subject and did not have reliable references. new sources have arisen, making it a notable subject. He has received extended prison sentences and a death sentence which was overturned for his promotion of what is variably described across news sources as 'medical practice', 'creating a cult' and faith healing. I believe the perma-locked deletion of the article to be in error although i acknowledge that the article was previously poorly written and lacking in substance and relevance.
49.198.21.145 (talk) 21:09, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
apologies if i have difficulty with the markup for this page a it is unfamiliar to me. i provide the following references to demonstrate that he is a noteworthy person. The reason for my interest in this article is that Taheri was recently mentioned in a UNSC emergency meeting and it was difficult to find english information on the subject. He has been described internationally as a political prisoner.[1] The UN has described him as a 'medical doctor.'[2] although he seems to be a cult leader or faith healer.[3][4] His supporters claimed he had been tortured to death in 2015 and the death sentence was a form of elaborate conspiracy to cover this up. His lawyer denied these claims and maintains that he is alive in Evin Prison.[5]Iranian state television aired a documentary on his mystical teachings titled, "Halgheye Sheitan"(Satan's ring).[6][7] Taheri advocates that mental illness is contagious through a mechanism involving the radiation of psychic energy through which it is possible to transfer genetic information between individuals.[8] Nejat Az Halghe(The ring rescue organisation) was established to help 'survivors' of Taheri's teachings.[9]Abbas Ali Allahyari, head of Psychology and Counselling Organisation of the Islamic Republic of Iran(PCOIRI) and associate professor of Tarbiat Modares University has described the teachings as dangerous, predatory and exploitative, especially towards mentally ill people. [10]
his supporters and official websites claim he has been awarded many many honorary doctorates and international awards. I have been unable to verify any of these claimed awards. english readers performing a cursory look at the official websites might be confused and believe those awards were actually given in recognition of contributions toward medical science which is possibly why the UN reported that he is a medical doctor. although i cant find a source to explain this error.
I have just reviewed the archive for the page and cannot understand the reason for its deletion. the talk page for its deletion states, "According to the Wikipedia deletion policy this article does not meet the notability (WP:N), verifiability (WP:V) and reliable sources (WP:RS) nor what Wikipedia is not (WP:NOT)criterion.", referring to a 2013 revision and has been subsequently repeatedly deleted on the basis of this 6 year old discussion. the 2016 version of the page was not so bad but was deleted for the same reason.
^"Mohammad Ali Taheri". United States Commission on International Religious Freedom. Retrieved February 27, 2019.
A look at the history shows this was recently G4'd for speedy deletion. Anyone want to temp undelete the history for me to see if this was a proper G4? (Asking more clearly this time!) SportingFlyerT·C22:50, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
A pseudoscientific crackpot who may have had a spammy article in life but, subsequent to the the six-year-old deletion discussion, was tortured by the Iranian authorities and starved himself to death in prison after a show-trial, attracting attention from serious sources in the process. Those sources certainly add up to an article, although in my view the encyclopaedic topic would probably be Death of Mohammad Ali Taheri and his name should probably be a redirect to that.—S MarshallT/C23:06, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
for future reference he is still alive and was imprisoned in 2011. I acknowledge that his contributions toward the field of medicine are questionable. I further understand that the page is likely to be frequently subject to revertible good faith edits. In the interest of documenting him as a notable political prisoner and a part of international human rights debates and Iran I think it's worthy of an article. My opinion doesnt have any weight in the matter but i agree with you that he's a crackpot mystic however the death penalty for writing nonsense on the internet seems a bit severe.
49.198.21.145 (talk) 00:14, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Overturn G4 The new article is not substantially similar to the one written six years ago. No other comment on the subject's notability, or what we should do with it, or if it meets any other speedy characteristics, just that the most recent G4 was improper. SportingFlyerT·C03:29, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Deletion review#Instructions says "Before listing a review request, please: Discuss the matter with the closing editor and try to resolve it with them first. If you and the closer cannot work out a satisfactory solution, only then should you bring the matter before deletion review." I was the administrator who performed the speedy deletion, and no attempt to discuss the matter with me was made. Looking at the history of the article, it is clear that my speedy deletion was a mistake, as the latest version was indeed significantly different from that deleted as a result of the deletion discussion. Had I been consulted in the first place, I would therefore have apologised, and restored all revisions of the most recently created article, which I mistakenly speedily deleted two months ago, leaving the older versions deleted; that would have restored the situation as it was before I did the speedy deletion, and as it would still have been without that deletion. It seems to me the best thing is for me to restore that situation now, so I shall do so, and I hope that is a satisfactory solution. If anyone for any reason thinks that is not the best thing to do, please contact me, so that I can consider your reasons. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:35, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
