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July 25, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – Callias (comic poet) → Callias (poet) – It seems there was no other poet named Callias, and his tragedy being a joke is accepted by "Many scholars" (which means not all of them). Therefore, I think "(poet)" is enough and better than "(comic poet)". פעמי-עליון (pʿmy-ʿlywn) - talk 12:29, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Air raids on Australia, 1942–1943 → Air raids on Australia – There was only one, see "Air raids on Japan" as format. Gryffindor (talk) 11:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lakhimpur Kheri violence → 2021 Lakhimpur Kheri violence – The naming convention for events WP:NCE recommends a date in the title, as it's a useful indicator to the reader. This would also make the title consistent with the set of articles in List of vehicle-ramming attacks. The exception, which is WP:NOYEAR, doesn't seem to apply here, given that a reader would have little
historic perspective
because the coverage was mostly contemporary: "2021" appears 108 times in this article, "2022" eight times, "2023" zero, etc. This suggests that the event wouldn't qualify for the NOYEAR exception. Pilaz (talk) 09:52, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ohio State University attack → 2016 Ohio State University attack – The date should be included in the title according to the naming convention WP:NCE, as it's a useful indicator to the reader and would make it consistent with the majority of articles under List of vehicle-ramming attacks. The exception NOYEAR doesn't seem too pertinent here, as most of the coverage for this event hasn't gone beyond the time period it happened in, which suggests that the
historical perspective
required to make an exception under NOYEAR isn't quite met. Pilaz (talk) 09:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hekatompedon temple → Hekatompedon – The article on the temple is the logical WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Hekatompedon". Currently, that term links to Hecatompedum, a two-line stub about an obscure city in Epirus. The latter page get around 0-4 views a day, whereas the temple page tends to get between 24 and 40, and is far better attested on e.g. Google books. UndercoverClassicist T·C 08:57, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Battle of Changsha (1939) → First Battle of Changsha – – Battle of Changsha (1941–1942) → Third Battle of Changsha – I am currently trying to rename four of the pages for battles called Battle of Changsha. These four articles are: Battle of Changsha (1939), Battle of Changsha (1941), Battle of Changsha (1941-1942) and Battle of Changsha (1944). This is because these four all occurred in the Second Sino-Japanese War, so it follows naming conventions for battles like Second Battle of Alamein. Also, as there are six articles called Battle of Changsha, so the current names of these four articles are not very helpful for finding the specific battle. However, because there is already a redirect page, I can't rename this article. Enoryt nwased lamaj (talk) 07:38, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Battle of Changsha (1941–1942) → Third Battle of Changsha – I am currently trying to rename four of the pages for battles called Battle of Changsha. These four articles are: Battle of Changsha (1939), Battle of Changsha (1941), Battle of Changsha (1941-1942) and Battle of Changsha (1944). This is because these four all occurred in the Second Sino-Japanese War, so it follows naming conventions for battles like Second Battle of Alamein. Also, as there are six articles called Battle of Changsha, so the current names of these four articles are not very helpful for finding the specific battle. However, because there is already a redirect page, I can't rename this article. Enoryt nwased lamaj (talk) 07:32, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Arakha Army → Arakan Army – AA still calls itself Arakan Army in [its English website] Chirua (talk) 07:07, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Umberto I of Italy → Umberto I – While there exists several rulers named Humbert I and Humbert II, the two Umbertos who are kings of Italy seem to be the PRIMARYTOPIC for "Umbertos". Векочел (talk) 18:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 20:44, 17 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. SilverLocust 💬 06:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Yo Momma → Yo Momma (TV series) – Insufficient disambiguation. Move and redirect Yo Momma to orimary topic "Yo mama" joke. 162 etc. (talk) 02:20, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Truth About Love → The Truth About Love (disambiguation) – Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews [1] estar8806 (talk) ★ 01:25, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – L'Île-aux-Marins → Île aux Marins –
1. The definite article "L'" ("L'Île")is not used in French except for some municipalities, but not for names of the acutal islands themselves.
2. The dashes are also not standard, although they are often seen. See the French version of this article. Keizers (talk) 00:47, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – July 2024 protest in Washington D.C. → July 2024 Israel–Hamas war protests in Washington, D.C. – As a frequent visitor and/or resident of the DC area (gotta keep it interesting!) - there are lots of protests in DC, and there’s been more than a few in July. Current title is too ambiguous/vague as a result, and should be specified - would accept “anti-Netanyahu protests” in place of I-H war as well. The Kip (contribs) 00:17, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
July 24, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – Milos Popović → Minja Popović – per sources: Soccerway, worldfootball.net, etc. 47.201.233.193 (talk) 47.201.233.193 (talk) 23:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment → All-purpose lightweight individual carrying equipment – These military equipment designators are often capped in official lists, but also often lowercase in sentences in both official and "independent" publications, so per MOS:CAPS and WP:NCCAPS we should default to lowercase, in titles and in article text (except Interceptor should be capped even mid-sentence, as that's the proper name of the armor system, not a descriptive term). I had moved them already, thinking they'd be uncontroversial in light of a bunch of previous military equipment designation RMs, but these were objected to and reverted, so let's discuss. Dicklyon (talk) 22:01, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rose Hanbury → Rose Cholmondeley, Marchioness of Cholmondeley – Per WP:NCBRITPEER. While tabloids call her by her maiden name, she is otherwise referred, both officially and in non-tabloid papers, as the Marchioness of Cholmondely or Lady Cholmondely and so on. For example, Diana is usually called Princess Di or Lady Di or Diana Spencer but her official title and the title of her article is Diana, Princess of Wales. The current Princess of Wales is commonly called Kate Middleton but her article is title in "Catherine, Princess of Wales". Same with Meghan Markle. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 20:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Accepted → Accepted (film) – "Accepted" is the past participle of acceptance, which has long-term significance over the film. Having Accepted redirect to Acceptance is less likely to WP:SURPRISE readers than having the film be WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Mia Mahey (talk) 19:44, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Prince Yi (儀) → ? – Having a non-English disambiguation isn't helpful on en.Wikipedia where most of the readers except to read text in English. I have no idea what the correct disambiguation is here, but I'm hopeful someone here would. Gonnym (talk) 19:29, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Prince Yi (怡) → ?
- (Discuss) – Prince Rui (睿) → ? – Having a non-English disambiguation isn't helpful on en.Wikipedia where most of the readers except to read text in English. I have no idea what the correct disambiguation is here, but I'm hopeful someone here would. Gonnym (talk) 19:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Prince Rui (瑞) → ?
- (Discuss) – Debeaking → Beak trimming – WP:COMMONNAME in WP:RS since the 1980s (WP:AGEMATTERS), see Google Ngrams and especially Google Scholar 2000–2024 (WP:AGEMATTERS): "debeaking" 1.630 results versus "beak trimming" / "beak-trimming" 3.740 results (with or without hyphen yields the same results). Some people (in talk page discussions above) have also argued that "debeaking" is a WP:POV term that should be avoided if there is a suitable alternative, and "beak trimming" appears to fit. "Debeaking" can definitely stay an WP:ALTNAME, but we should resolve this NPOV dispute at some point. NLeeuw (talk) 12:23, 10 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 19:14, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Typhoon Gaemi → Typhoon Gaemi (2024) – Should this article be disambiguated from Typhoon Kaemi (2006), the only other typhoon in list of storms named Gaemi? The names are different but the same (different romanizations of Korean 개미). If they're distinct enough such that disambiguating is not necessary, then I propose Typhoon Kaemi (2006) should be moved to Typhoon Kaemi. Either way the two should be consistent with one another. Pinging @Ahecht who moved to mainspace. ChromeGames (talk · contribs) 17:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nusantara → Nusantara (disambiguation) – When this move was nominated a year ago, the primary reason against such move was that it was too soon with the city then only in its planning stages along with doubts whether or not the city would even be completed. Now, in about a month the city would become the new capital of Indonesia, which I argue would make it the primary topic. The city also gets significantly more views than other topics with such name. Zinderboff(talk) 16:10, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 17:56, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Au Hasard Balthazar → Au hasard Balthazar – The result of the 'Requested move' discussion from August 2016, above, was to move the previous page to 'Au hasard Balthazar'. For unknown reasons, the move was made to 'Au Hasard Balthazar'. I propose a move to 'Au hasard Balthazar'. Rationale: * The film is almost invariably referred to by its French name in the English-speaking world, and is rarely translated. * The film is referred to as 'Au hasard Balthazar' by: ** French Wikipedia Au hasard Balthazar ** The article's external links to IMDb, Metacritic, James Quandt/Criterion Collection article ** Approx. half of the references ( I haven't checked all the books and magazines, and some of the links are broken) * MOS:FRENCHCAPS would specify 'Au hasard Balthazar' Note that the film's opening credits are stylised as 'au hasard bathazar', which doesn't support an argument either way. Masato.harada (talk) 17:19, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chatsworth station → Chatsworth Transportation Center – In line with other station articles which use their formal names (ex: San Bernardino Transit Center, Fullerton Transportation Center, Irvine Transportation Center) which seems to be the general precedence for naming train station articles. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 09:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – United States complicity in Israeli war crimes in the Israel–Hamas war → United States complicity in the Israel–Hamas war – I think the page name is too long. Any other suggestion is also welcome Astropulse (talk) 12:08, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dano-Swedish War of 1808–1809 → Dano-Swedish War (1808–1809) – Per WP:TITLECON, all other articles with this title (Dano-Swedish War (1470–1471), Dano-Swedish War (1501–1512), Dano-Swedish War (1512–1520), Dano-Swedish War (1657–1658), Dano-Swedish War (1658–1660)) don't use "of" before the date. Gvssy (talk) 11:30, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lifetime (TV network) → Lifetime (TV channel) – This is a TV channel, not a TV network, despite its multiple international feeds; active or defunct! Intrisit (talk) 11:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Austro-Hungarian rule in Bosnia and Herzegovina → Austro-Hungarian Bosnia and Herzegovina – WP:CONSISTENT with Ottoman Bosnia and Herzegovina, Ottoman Bulgaria, and Ottoman Greece. Note that the first article cited was previously Ottoman rule in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the second article has Ottoman rule in Bulgaria as a redirect, and the third has Ottoman rule in Greece as a redirect. While the empire in question differs, the situation and context is fairly similar, so readers could expect a similar titling style for this article as with the others I've mentioned. 122141510 (talk) 04:43, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Reprisal (film) → Reprisal (2018 film) – Dab from Reprisal!. The presence of extra punctuation is sometimes sufficient disambiguation. The absence of it almost never is. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:10, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Te Whatu Ora → Health New Zealand - Te Whatu Ora – Per WP:OFFICIALNAMES, WP:COMMONNAME Lluq (talk) 00:57, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – London Olympics → London hosting the Olympic games – Schwed66 did the same move with Paris Olympics. Titles need to be consistent when appropriate. Georgia guy (talk) 00:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
July 23, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – JMV (disambiguation) → JMV – WP:NOPT 2600:1006:B06C:CDD8:60DB:A17F:C226:A358 (talk) 17:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. EggRoll97 (talk) 23:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Heavy Jelly (album) → Heavy Jelly – Currently a dab page where no other uses have their own articles. Easy to convert to a hatnote. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 22:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Heavy Jelly → Heavy Jelly (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Destruction of al-Jalaa Building → Destruction of the al-Jalaa Building – The usual grammatical convention would be to say "the al-Jalaa Building", and this can be seen in multiple sources. — The Anome (talk) 09:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — The Anome (talk) 09:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. The Night Watch (talk) 21:22, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Break-even (economics) → Break-even point – This article primarily discusses the topic of the "break-even point", which is mentioned at least 30 times throughout and is the bolded name in the lead. While the "economics" DAB is beneficial, using the whole name "break-even point" as the article title would be more descriptive and provides a WP:NATURAL disambiguation from the main subject, Break-even. Trailblazer101 (talk) 18:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – John Grimes (bishop) → ? – Insufficient disambiguation with John Grimes (New Zealand bishop). I'm not familiar with the naming convention for these. * John Grimes (New York bishop), since his diocese was in the American state of New York? * John Grimes (Irish bishop), since he was born in Ireland? Also consider: * John Grimes (British bishop), since Ireland was not independent at the time? * John Grimes (American bishop), though the article makes no mention of him obtaining American citizenship. 162 etc. (talk) 17:50, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Joever → It's Joever – Phrase is usually used in its entirety. GnocchiFan (talk) 16:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – CSA Steaua București (football) → Steaua București – The football team will no longer use the full name Clubul Sportiv al Armatei Steaua and will be enrolled only as Steaua București in competitions organized by the Romanian Football Federation (FRF) for the upcoming season. [1] [2] [3] The issue is that there's also a disambiguation page titled Steaua București which should be properly renamed. Cezxmer (talk) 16:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Steaua București → Steaua București (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Eights Week → Summer Eights – While referred to as Eights Week in the past, the event is far more commonly known as Summer Eights today. All University, College, and town publication, including all material from the actual organisers refers to the event as 'Summer Eights', not 'Eights Week'. Additionally, as referred to by the last move request back in 2016, there are far more common results for Summer Eights than Eights Week in search engines. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically. OxfordRowing (talk) 20:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. microbiologyMarcus [petri dish·growths] 15:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – King of the Mischievous South, Vol. 2 → King of the Mischievous South Vol. 2 – Per the sources in the article, the title does not include a comma. Thanks to Spinmeisters for noticing. मल्ल (talk) 15:29, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – President of Maldives → President of the Maldives – "the" is very important between of and Maldives; the page mover moved the page and was given the reason "Proper name for the country. Ref: https://unstats.un.org/unsd/geoinfo/geonames/)", but i dont think it is a proper name because the official name of the post is "President of the Maldives", so the page should be moved as it was before. As per the constitution, it is "President of the Maldives". MAL MALDIVE (talk) 14:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Douglas Fairbanks in Robin Hood → Robin Hood (1922 film) – Per WP:COMMONNAME, "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's official name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources) as such names will usually best fit the five criteria listed above." and per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films) "Common names – Sometimes, it is acceptable to use an alternative common name that is more concise or recognizable.". In all historical articles of the film I've read and most film databases, the film is known as "Robin Hood" not "Douglas Fairbanks in Robin Hood". The title alone makes it sound like a represetnation of acting in the film. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:37, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – John Bassett → John W. H. Bassett – With so many people there does not appear to be a primary topic; even the subject's son John F. Bassett has just as many pageviews. The proposed, WP:NATURALDISAMBIGUATION title is used by, among other websites, Canadian Business Hall of Fame and Governor General of Canada Yinweiaiqing (talk) 12:24, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Haileybury and Imperial Service College → Haileybury (Hertfordshire) – The school's official name is Haileybury College altho it is commonly known as just Haileybury. Haileybury and Imperial Service College is a previous name no longer used Southdevonian (talk) 18:17, 22 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Southdevonian (talk) 11:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – World Government Summit → World Governments Summit – Match the official Website Janaalrifaey (talk) 09:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Transgender hormone therapy → Hormone replacement therapy (transgender) – It has become clear that the current article at Hormone replacement therapy for menopausal application does not qualify as a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC after reviewing of page navigation flows for Hormone replacement therapy, Hormone therapy and Transgender hormone therapy. An outsizedly large amount of traffic that currently navigates straight from Hormone replacement therapy to Transgender hormone therapy, since HRT is also referred to for it (as outlined in the lead of the article), or to the current disambiguating article Hormone therapy, which combined account for 30% of the navigation from the current HRT article. So I propose that Hormone replacement therapy doesn't have a clear primary topic and as such we should rename the two articles to both use "Hormone replacement therapy" (or HRT in short) as their WP:COMMONNAME with the specific application in parenthesis. And then turn the current "Hormone replacement therapy" into a simple disambiguation page, or redirect it to Hormone therapy (which kind of already acts as a disambiguation page, as also shown from the traffic of the hat note). Raladic (talk) 20:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 07:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cynthia Roche → ? – These two ladies are both members of the Roche family (see category), although their exact relation is lost on me. My instinct is that Cynthia Roche should be converted to a dab page, but I'm unsure on how to disambiguate the two articles since I'm not too familiar with British noble titles and the article title conventions in this area. A thread I created at WT:PEERAGE asking for input has not yielded any responses, so I'm opening a requested move to get more input. Thanks – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 06:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Durum → Durum wheat – as per the first line in the text. JacktheBrown (talk) 06:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cryptozoo → Cryptozoo (film) – Recent pageviews seems to indicate that there are some confusion by readers as to which Cryptozoo/CryptooZoo articles to read, i.e. CryptoZoo (game). I would put that at the minimum, there is no primary topic here and a dab to be create at the base title. – robertsky (talk) 06:49, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Toad (Nintendo) → Toad (Mario) – The article was moved to the current title without discussion in April 2016 despite the most recent RM in 2015 being closed as "not moved". Video game characters are usually disambiguated by their primary series instead of their publisher company, even when frequently having cameo/crossover appearances, which Toad does not. Mia Mahey (talk) 20:05, 21 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Mia Mahey (talk) 06:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death of Jaahnavi Kandula → Killing of Jaahnavi Kandula – It is more accurate to label Kandula's death as a killing. The sources in the article indisputably describe it as such. मल्ल (talk) 05:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kaspersky bans and allegations of Russian government ties → Kaspersky and the Russian government – WP:PRECISE and more accurately reflects the scope of this article Longhornsg (talk) 03:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 4th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 4th Panzer Division – There is no ambiguity and no need for the parenthetical per WP:CONCISE/WP:PRECISION. This nomination does not include divisions 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 10 and 12, which are ambiguous. See relevant categories here, here and here. This should normally not be controversial, but WP:MILMOS § UNITNAME calls for preemptive disambiguation for "cases where a unit's name can reasonably be expected to be used by multiple armed forces". The problem with the status quo is that it strongly implies that there are several articles e.g. with the name 25th Panzer Division, while there is only one. — AjaxSmack 02:50, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- 6th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 6th Panzer Division
- 8th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 8th Panzer Division
- 11th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 11th Panzer Division
- 13th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 13th Panzer Division
- 14th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 14th Panzer Division
- 15th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 15th Panzer Division
- 16th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 16th Panzer Division
- 17th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 17th Panzer Division
- 18th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 18th Panzer Division
- 19th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 19th Panzer Division
- 20th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 20th Panzer Division
- 21st Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 21st Panzer Division
- 22nd Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 22nd Panzer Division
- 23rd Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 23rd Panzer Division
- 24th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 24th Panzer Division
- 25th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 25th Panzer Division
- 27th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 27th Panzer Division
- 116th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 116th Panzer Division
- 155th Reserve Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 155th Reserve Panzer Division
- 179th Reserve Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 179th Reserve Panzer Division
- 233rd Reserve Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 233rd Reserve Panzer Division
- 273rd Reserve Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) → 273rd Reserve Panzer Division
- (Discuss) – Dypsis lutescens → Chrysalidocarpus lutescens – Name is the type species of restored genus, see: https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:985360-1. Roy Bateman (talk) 02:29, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
July 22, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – WD 2359−434 → Gliese 915 – Simpler name inline with WP:STARNAMES, which priorizes Gliese designations for stars without proper names, Bayer, Flamsteed, HD or Variable designations. New title meets the naturalness criteria, follow the naming convetion and is consistent with other Gliese stars. 21 Andromedae (talk) 23:13, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shin Hye-sun → Shin Hae-sun – With the continuing rise in popularity of actress <Shin Hae-sun>, the spelling of her English name has been up for debate for quite some time. Since her debut in School 2013, many have spelled her name as <Shin Hye-sun>; others have spelled it as <Shin Hae-sun> (a difference in Hye or Hae). In recent years, many have pointed out that her own signature and places like her agency (YNK Entertainment under IOK Company) spelled her name with Hae, yet, many sources continued to spell it as Hye since it was the most common spelling since her debut (Hye is also a common spelling amongst other Korean celebrities like Park Shin-hye and Kim Hye-yoon, adding to its credibility at the time). Here are some other reliable sources that correctly spells her name with Hae: KoBiz, The Korean Herald, Korea JoongAng Daily, and The Korea Times. It was only until last year that the actress added her English name to her Instagram account, spelling it herself as Hae. But due to the immense commonality of Hye across the internet, there wasn't a big change in how articles/sources/new fans spelled her name. As such, I am proposing that we change the spelling of her name to Hae, rather than Hye, as to fix the misinformation that is still at large. It is only right that we respect how the actress spells her own name. Imanomynous (talk) 22:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – MAX (Utah Transit Authority) → BRT (Utah Transit Authority) – "MAX" is no longer used to describe any planned or existing UTA routes, and while using "BRT" to describe most of UTA's planned bus enhancement projects is somewhat dubious, it's what UTA currently uses on their website and branding. https://www.rideuta.com/Services/Bus-Rapid-Transit Nebula3lem123 (talk) 20:45, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Scotia Place (Calgary) → Scotia Place – As the current name of a major sporting arena in one of North America's "Big Four" someone searching for Scotia Place is much more likely to be looking for this arena, rather than a lightly notable office building in which Scotiabank was previously a tenant IceBergYYC (talk) 20:13, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – GEO Foundation → GEO Academies – The organization appears to now be named "GEO Academies" (URL http://geofoundation.org redirects to http://geoacademies.org.) Qitivi (talk) 19:18, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sad Story of Self Supporting Child → Sorrow Even Up in Heaven – Seems to be the WP:COMMONNAME in English-language sources ([2], [3],[4],[5], Google search) compared to Sad Story of Self Supporting Child (Google search). Wuju Daisuki (talk) 18:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2022 Oregon Senate election → 2022 Oregon State Senate election – similar to 2024 Oregon State Senate election the title should clarify it is a state Senate election because it is not a US senate election. 173.72.3.91 (talk) 18:11, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jim Rockford (television character) → Jim Rockford – WP:ONEOTHER. A hatnote to the 1980s football player (Jim Rockford (Canadian football player)) is sufficient. 162 etc. (talk) 17:07, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Jim Rockford → Jim Rockford (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Tiger Woods Learning Center → TGR Learning Lab – This was renamed in 2017, all recent sources refer to it as the TGR Learning Lab. Walsh90210 (talk) 16:44, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Madeleine → Madeleine (disambiguation) – When I search for "madeleine" on Google, I immediately see the French cake showing up. So, I believe that the French cake article should be made primary. GTrang (talk) 16:11, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jean Kelly (disambiguation) → Jean Kelly – The actress' stage name is not simply "Jean Kelly", but Jean Louisa Kelly per her website, IMDb, Facebook, Instagram, Spotify, Twitter, etc. No need for redirecting Jean Kelly to Jean Louisa Kelly when it can serve as the dab page base name. Anyone searching for her as "Jean Kelly" or for Jeanne Kelly, the early stage name of actress Jean Brooks, or even users who might mistype Gene Kelly as "Jean Kelly", will find all those links directly upon the proposed Jean Kelly dab page without having to go through Jean Louisa Kelly. Four years and eight months ago, above, there were four "support" votes and four "oppose", resulting in "no consensus". — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 15:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Luxon → Luxon (disambiguation) – Redirect to Christopher Luxon per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. With very few alternative individuals and terms with this name. Christopher Luxon the Prime Minister of New Zealand seems to be the clear primary topic for such name. Zinderboff(talk) 10:21, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Uniform → List of types of uniforms – This article should be merged into Military uniform, Nurse uniform, School uniform, etc.. The word "uniform" can refer to essentially any form of standardized dress, and this article currently just lists a number of kinds of uniform; the only real common part are the Buttons and Hygiene; the first is about button collecting, which has an article, and the second is about a tax deduction for uniform cleaning, which isn't really enough to write an article about and can be put into respective articles if necessary anyways. It's not possible to write a cohesive article about all kinds of organized dress, just because they're referred to by the word "uniform", all at the same time. I thought of trying to write a History section, but realized that I'd have to write about the development of military uniforms, police uniforms, nurses' uniforms, and McDonalds costumes at the same time, which doesn't make sense because "uniform" is not a cohesive topic. Most of the sections of the this article already have articles treating them. Work uniform (now a redirect) could be restored for that section. The Sports section I'm not sure about, but Sports uniform (also now a redirect) could also be restored. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:35, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Geo-fence → Geofence – per previous ngram results and discussion. also possibility of using gerundive form instead (i.e., Geofencing) by suggestion of Ahecht. Tule-hog (talk) 23:01, 21 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Tule-hog (talk) 02:35, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Red State → Red state – grammar: not always a proper noun/name (so lowercase in general). dchmelik☀️🦉🐝🐍(talk|contrib) 02:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
July 21, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – Bobby Green → King Green – His name was formally changed to "King Green" and referred to as such on UFC broadcasts. Sources: MMAFighting: https://www.mmafighting.com/2024/7/8/24194210/bobby-green-reveals-he-officially-changed-his-name-to-king#:~:text=Veteran%20UFC%20lightweight%20Bobby%20Green,King%20now%2C%E2%80%9D%20Green%20announced. UFC 304: https://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-304 (King Green) & https://www.ufc.com/athlete/bobby-green ESPN: https://www.espn.com/mma/fighter/_/id/2502364/king-green Bloody Elbow: https://bloodyelbow.com/2024/07/15/paddy-pimblett-reveals-the-one-weakness-he-intends-to-exploit-in-his-fight-with-king-green-at-ufc-304/ Marty2Hotty (talk) 23:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Transbay Transit Center → Salesforce Transit Center – It's been a few years since the last move request. I thought to start a move review, but was told to file a requested move discussion here instead. If the name Salesforce Transit Center wasn't common at the time of the last discussion, it certainly is now. * Keeping the name Transbay Transit Center does not follow Wikipedia:Naming conventions (US stations). Salesforce Transit Center is both the official name, and the common name. * AC Transit calls it Salesforce Transit Center, not Transbay Transit Center. This language is used widespread on AC Transit maps, service alerts, physical signage at bus stops, and digital signage on buses. * List of AC Transit routes has it as Salesforce Transit Center, not Transbay Transit Center. * The official SFMTA Muni Service Map calls it Salesforce Transit Center. * Google Maps does not recognize Transbay Transit Center. A search for "Transbay Transit Center" suggests "Salesforce Transit Center" as the first result. Riders and transit agency workers know it as Salesforce Transit Center. Locals and tourists know it as Salesforce Transit Center. Both commonly and officially, it is called Salesforce Transit Center. Tallneil (talk) 23:00, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Spondyloarthropathy → Spondyloarthritis – I have a couple reasons so I'm going to break them down individually: # WP:MEDTITLE suggests the usage of the ICD for naming disease articles. The ICD classifies Spondyloarthropathy seperately under Degenerative condition of spine however the definition of Spondyloarthropathy used commonly is listed under Inflammatory spondyloarthritis. # Consitancy. The term Axial spondyloarthritis is used instead of Axial spondyloarthropathy. # Popularity. Most articles, both research and just general information refer to the disease as Spondyloarthritis, (examples:[6][7][8][9][10][11]) # Etymology. “arthritis” indicates inflammation of the joint, whereas “arthropathy” just refers to any type of joint disease. # Historical context: This group of disease has almost always been reffered to Spondyloarthritis, I'm not even sure where the term spondyloarthropathy came from. (This article goes over some of the historical context) # Most diagnostic criteria uses the term Spondyloarthritis. This is shown in this article that goes over the different classification criteria for Spondyloarthiritis. I know some of these reasons may seem trivial or aren't a part of the naming conventions however I wanted to be thourough with listing all the reasons I feel this is an appropriate move. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 22:27, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lady Henry Somerset → Lady Isabella Somerset – As mentioned in the article, this person "won the court case in 1878 and resumed the style of Lady Isabella Somerset", and after 1878 she used "Lady Isabella Somerset" as her official style. Because of this name change, the article title of this person in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography is "Somerset [née Somers-Cocks], Lady Isabella Caroline [Lady Henry Somerset]", and the ODNB calls her "Lady Isabella" in the article. The British Museum also registers her as "Lady Isabella Somerset". There is also an academic article which calls her "Lady Isabella Somerset". According to Wikipedia:Article_titles#Name_changes, "When this [a change of name] occurs, we give extra weight to independent, reliable, English-language sources ("reliable sources" for short) written after the name change". Since this person is called "Lady Isabella Somerset" in recent reliable sources, the name of the article should be "Lady Isabella Somerset". The move was already proposed in 2017, but it was not performed. saebou (talk) 08:04, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:44, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics (Unicode block) → Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics – To the best of my knowledge, there is no indication that this term is ever used to refer to the Canadian Aboriginal syllabics, especially in title case. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 08:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:43, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – SWIFT → Swift (banking) – SWIFT uses "Swift" name commonly. Ahri Boy (talk) 17:30, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Non è la RAI → Non è la Rai – see this discussion. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Uma Musume Pretty Derby → Umamusume Pretty Derby – The official title of the project by Cygames (the owners of the IP) has been Umamusume: Pretty Derby since at least 2021 when the mobile game released, see this press note, and has been more obvious with the releases on the west, including (attaching official websites) Umamusume Party Dash and the mobile game. This could be disputed due to western anime databases (mainly ANN and MAL) listing it as Uma Musume, but it should follow the official one (Crunchyroll, the distributor for the anime, also calls it this way) Kanade2611 (talk) 18:05, 20 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Kanade2611 (talk) 21:30, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Allied naval bombardments of Japan during World War II → Allied naval bombardments of Japan – There was only one. Gryffindor (talk) 18:10, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bombing of Berlin in World War II → Bombing of Berlin – There was only one, see "Bombing of Dresden" for reference. Gryffindor (talk) 18:04, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Substation → Substation (disambiguation) – obvious primary topic by long term significance. Police substation redirects to police station and the only other non-PTM entry is an obscure video game. The current title doesn't meet the policy requirement for natural disambiguation because it is always called "substation" in RS. Google scholar and other searches exclusively return this topic. (t · c) buidhe 17:44, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Records of the Grand Historian → Shiji – WP:COMMONNAME Folly Mox (talk) 16:48, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Anti-Haitian sentiment → Anti-Haitian sentiment in the Dominican Republic – Article has always stood for prejudices and discrimination against Haitians in the Dominican Republic, a core social issue in Hispaniola, deserving a standalone article, regardless of the merits of a possible generic article which does not seem to be on the horizon short-term. This was the case both before and after the renaming, with the difference that the former title ("antihaitianismo") suggested a geographical containment of the topic while the current purely-descriptive English-language title does not. Asqueladd (talk) 15:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Inflation (cosmology) → Cosmic inflation – Reasoning: * Natural disambiguation is generally preferred over parenthetical disambiguation * "Cosmic inflation" is natural, with widespread use in both reliable sources and popular sources, especially in titles and first mention * "Cosmic inflation" is more concise * "Cosmic inflation" beats "Cosmological inflation" in all measures of popularity (book ngrams, search trends, unpiped links) Previous move discussion (2008–2009) — Jruderman (talk) 12:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Palestinian genocide accusation → Palestinian genocide – Given the movement of Gaza genocide to that title, the current title here has become incongruously inconsistent. How can the parent of a child topic that is not couched in the language of "accusation" be couched in that language? It should be obvious than it should not. More generally, it has become apparent that the language of "accusation" is generally inappropriate. This is not only per MOS:ACCUSED (which outlines how the language of accusation is problematic in its presumptive deployment of doubt (presumably ultimately as a corollary of WP:NPOV)), but also per consistency with similar titles on similar subjects. There are many pages on the topics of presumed or suspected (but not legally ruled on) genocides -- this is in fact the majority of them -- but no other genocide topic on Wikipedia, regardless of how speculative it is, is couched as a "genocide accusation". See the search results. Likewise, the phrase "Palestinian genocide accusation" is all but unknown to scholarship, in stark contrast to "Palestinian genocide", which is a common and widely used phrase, including in titular form, such as in the 2013 The Palestinian Genocide by Israel by the eminent Francis Boyle. In the previous move discussion, I somewhat rallied support around the current title, but that was in October last year, before much of the subsequent discussion around developments in Gaza. It seemed sensible at the time, but that was then, and this is now. Events have moved on significantly since then, not least with the ICJ case and provisional measures -- and hence the Gaza genocide move. As this page covers the overarching legal and scholarly topic of Palestinian genocide, the weight of both everything that went into the Gaza genocide RM discussion, and everything that precedes it in Palestinian history, including the Nakba and all subsequent Israeli policies and actions that have been discussed as conceivably genocidal by legal and academic experts, is under consideration. Given that this page has a significantly grander scope than its child, its title cannot reasonably contain greater doubt than that of its child. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sacramento RT Light Rail → SacRT light rail – Similar format to VTA light rail. The article title is trying to use an abbreviated form of the Sacramento Regional Transit District's name, but it is a bit awkward, and "SacRT" seems to be the common abbreviation the agency refers to themselves as, as well as by everyday people, much in the same way "VTA" is the common abbreviation for the Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority. Furthermore, like the VTA light rail system, it technically doesn't have its own unique branding, so the "light rail" part of the article name aren't proper nouns and thus don't need to be capitalized. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 11:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Robbie Moore (MP) → Robbie Moore (politician) – This seems to be the standard disambiguator. GnocchiFan (talk) 12:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 14:35, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost (talk) 11:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Galois module → Galois representation – I think "Galois representation" is more common than "Galois module" even though technically the latter is more general. Taku (talk) 11:26, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – East Asian age reckoning → Age reckoning in the Sinosphere – Rationale explained here: Talk:Sinosphere#Pages using "East Asia" in place of the Sinosphere and in this longer post. Tl;dr, "East Asia" often excludes Vietnam, which is also a part of the Sinosphere. Related previous move discussions that passed: Seals in the Sinosphere and Sixtieth birthday in the Sinosphere. Open to more suggested titles. Alternates: # Sinosphere age reckoning #* I think a little confusing; may suggest trying to determine the age of the Sinosphere itself. # Traditional age reckoning in the Sinosphere #* This is more precise I feel; currently, as far as I'm aware, the entire Sinosphere no longer uses the age reckoning for major applications, mostly just ceremonial. "Age reckoning in x" can be interpreted as a present and not mostly past practice 104.232.119.107 (talk) 10:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Privately made firearm → Ghost gun – WP:COMMONNAME, see above. WestRiding24 (talk) 08:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tales of the Jedi (TV series) → Star Wars: Tales – Since this move made nearly three months ago has been objected to, here is an RM. I personally don't agree with the need as consensus was reached on the matter. Never the less, this anthology series had its first installment released as (formally) Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi (commonly Tales of the Jedi) in October 2022, with it announced in April 2023 that it would get a second season (wording used by media outlets, though the quote from Filoni was "Tales of the Jedi was so fun the first time, I decided to do some more.") Subsequently, it was announced a year later in April 2024 that this second "season" was a new "installment", Star Wars: Tales of the Empire (commonly Tales of the Empire). This press release shows the use of both formal names as well as the key quote in my view (and the determination of the previous consensus) that Tales of the Empire was
the second installment of the "Tales" series
. Thus, an appropriate name to address this anthology series considering the formal name would be Star Wars: Tales, which provides a WP:NATURAL name. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of presidents of the Judicial Yuan → Chief Justice of Taiwan – WP:PRIMARYTOPIC/WP:COMMONNAME; in line with several countries articles. For User:Butterdiplomat, the name is chosen as seen in articles from BBC and South China Morning Post. Do you oppose or support? Silence of Lambs (talk) 13:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ashanti Empire → Asante Empire – Ngrams shows Asante Empire is used more than Ashanti Empire ([12]) and it should be changed per WP:Common name. Asante is also the native name, but that is nothing to do with WP policy Kowal2701 (talk) 21:16, 5 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 20:07, 12 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:37, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – George Thopia → Gjergj Thopia – Switch title to the native name Gjergj. Arberian2444 (talk) 03:11, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – House demolition → House demolition (military) – The primary topic for demolishing houses would be demolition. The military use of house demolition is not the obvious primary topic and should be disambiguated. I would also not be opposed to (militiary tactic), but it doesn't seem like other articles use it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ober's test → Ober test – 20 results for Ober's test on Pubmed and 23 for Ober test. This combined with the trend towards removing "
's
" in medicine and the calls for standardization of the removal of apostrophe s by the WHO, AMA, and NIH, among others, points me towards the validity of this RM. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 15:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:58, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:16, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ermou Street (Athens) → Ermou Street – Unnecessary disambiguation. Killuminator (talk) 17:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:15, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Voluntary assisted dying in Western Australia → ? – This page is functionally a page about the specific law: Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2019. The other pages in this area which are about specific laws, they are named after the specific law: *Rights of the Terminally Ill Act 1995 - there is no Voluntary assisted dying in the Northern Territory *Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2017 - there is no Voluntary assisted dying in Victoria For the purposes of uniformity, this page should be renamed Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2019 A history/background section is perfectly reasonable to have in a page about a specific law - that is the case for Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006, Aliens Deportation Act 1948, Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act 2021. DotCoder (talk) 19:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:14, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Army Radio → Israeli Army Radio – to be more descriptive. Israeli Army Radio already redirect to Army Radio Astropulse (talk) 04:10, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 04:52, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trump administration migrant detentions → Migrant detentions under the Trump administration – In my opinion, placing "Migrant detentions" first subtly ensures a neutral point of view by focusing on the broader issue of detentions of migrants, acknowledging that such practices have occurred under various administrations, not just during the Trump administration. This structure avoids implying sole responsibility while still providing clarity about the specfic time period being discussed.. Mooonswimmer 01:32, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
July 20, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – Goryeosa → Koryŏsa – WP:COMMONNAME (ngram) and WP:NCKO (this is a pre-1945 concept, so McCune–Reischauer is preferred. This is a secondary argument to common name, either way) 104.232.119.107 (talk) 23:02, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jitendra Narayan Singh Tyagi → Syed Wasim Rizvi – The person is still called Syed Wasim Rizvi by most media sources and WP:RS. Also, he spells his name as Wasim not Waseem so that should be the spelling used. Xoocit (talk) 21:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lula Côrtes → Luiz–Lula Augusto—Côrtes—Martins – Full name is needed. 5.43.76.74 (talk) 18:40, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chrysler → Stellantis North America – Now that the page for the Chrysler brand has been split into Chrysler (brand) it would make sense to rename the page to Stellantis North America. Professional Adriazeri (talk) 18:08, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – João Neves (footballer) → João Neves – The other person under this name is João Neves (judoka). The difference in page views is staggering, and I believe there is a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here. More likely than not, >99% of "João Neves" searches on the Internet and on Wikipedia are about the footballer, not the judoka, and the only reason the judoka has 783 page views this month is because of the disambiguation page through Wikipedia. Paul Vaurie (talk) 16:44, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- João Neves → João Neves (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Jenson (name) → Jenson – currently Jenson is a disambig page with only two items. Of two options, I dont think Adobe Jenson be the primary meaning. - Altenmann >talk 16:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Jenson → Jenson (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – People's Socialist Party (Nepal) → ? – Those two political parties in Nepal could be easily confused with each other. We need to find a way to distinguish those two political parties, perhaps by including "Upendra Yadav" or "Ashok Rai" in the title. GTrang (talk) 15:45, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mark Krikorian → Mark Krikorian (immigration critic) – (make dab at Mark Krikorian) Not sure what the modifier should be but no primary topic Hameltion (talk | contribs) 15:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – STEAM fields → STEAM education – The Slate article cited in the first sentence states that STEAM is not just a collection of five fields, but a movement to integrate creative thinking and design skills into STEM education. And this is how much of the article describes it. But the first sentence defines it as a collection of five fields, and the presence of "fields" in the title reinforces that definition. I think the lede would be more consistent with the sources and with the rest of the article if we change the title to something like "STEAM education" or "STEAM movement" or just "STEAM", and change the first sentence to something like: STEAM education is an approach to teaching STEM subjects that incorporates artistic skills like creative thinking and design.Justin Kunimune (talk) 15:08, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Piecewise → Piecewise mathematical object – Per WP:NOUN. The adjective title is jarring. Previous discussion is at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics/Archive/2024/Mar#Piecewise. Mathematical object should include everything, addressing concerns about the concept needing to cover piecewise linear manifold and piecewise linear curve 174.92.25.207 (talk) 14:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gender variance → Gender nonconformity – According to Google Ngrams, gender nonconformity is the more commonly used term. The article should be named with its common name. Urchincrawler (talk) 16:32, 12 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 14:35, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Ecologists (coalition) → Ecologist Pole – Party was moved to the name The Ecologists (and then The Ecologists (coalition)) but no source was ever provided to say that there was a name change. The truth is that the coalition today has kind of faded (merged into first NUPES then the New Popular Front), but the WP:COMMONNAME when it was still prominent was clearly "Ecologist Pole" (or "Pôle écologiste" in French). See France Bleu, La Croix, Le Progrès, etc. The logo made for the primaries (see infobox) with the words "Les Écologistes" is just a logo, and does not necessarily mean that this ever was the coalition's official name. It's just that the party commonly known as The Ecologists was the most prominent member of the coalition, and this name most likely gave the coalition the most visibility ahead of the primaries and the elections. Paul Vaurie (talk) 14:16, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dongguk Tonggam → Tongguk t'onggam – Per WP:NCKO, this new target is the McCune–Reischauer spelling. Searching in Google Scholar, "Tongguk t'onggam" gets 121 results and "Dongguk Tonggam" gets 33. Neither appear in Ngrams. I flipped through the results and sentence casing is more common; many style guidelines for East Asian studies recommend sentence casing for transliterated titles. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 13:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Miligram (band) → Miligram – There is not any other page with title beginning Miligram; please, check disambiguation. --5.43.76.74 (talk) 12:44, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – RADA → Royal Academy of Dramatic Art – Outside the United Kingdom, nobody really knows about RADA. Its certainly not a common name in comparison to FIFA, BBC and NATO. Its a local English school, not a world wide organization. Both RADA and Royal Academy of Dramatic Art is used for it but, for the sake of non-British readers, the full term should be used. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:40, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fathers' rights movement → Fathers' rights – Difference in lemma between Mothers' rights and Fathers' rights movement is discriminatory. HudecEmil (talk) 12:17, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Parents' rights movement → Parents' rights – Consistency with Children's rights, Youth rights. All these are both rights and movements. HudecEmil (talk) 12:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – YIMBY movement → YIMBY – Consistency with NIMBY. I see no reason why one is a "movement" and the other is not. HudecEmil (talk) 11:50, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Blendo Games → Brendon Chung – I cannot find much evidence Blendo Games passes WP:NCORP. However, its sole developer Brendon Chung does appear to pass WP:NARTIST due to his game development efforts and recognition. He got a major profile in Kill Screen and an article focused on him in Vice magazine. I suggest the article be moved and modified somewhat to focus primarily on him. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ascalon → Ashkelon (ancient city) – Recently, the name of this article was changed from Tel Ashkelon to Ascalon. The rationale was that Ashkelon and Tel Ashkelon are too similar, and that readers cannot be expected to differentiate. It was said that Ascalon is the name of the historical site. This rationale is invalid. The name Ashkelon, is the conventionally accepted name for both the modern city, and the ancient site. In many cases, the name Ashkelon is even used when referring to periods in which it was historically known as Ascalon. This place has at least 20,000 years of history, accros many periods of times. It was a prehistoric site, a Canaanite, Philistine, Hellenistic city, a Crusader city, an Islamic city... We don't always know its actual name, and it has never had a single way to pronounce its name. I am suggesting to change the name to Ashkelon (ancient city). I divided my argument into three parts: (1) Ashkelon and Ascalon are virtually the same and therefore confusing; (2) The toponym for the ancient site is known in maps and sites as "Ashkelon"; (3) the conentional scholarly name for the city in all periods is "Ashkelon", including periods in which it was called in different names. 1. Ascalon and Ashkelon are virtually the same. It is very confusing still. Differetiating them with "ancient city" in brackets makes no mistakes. Another option would've been "Tel Ashkelon", but there were times in which the ancient settlements in Ashkelon were not exactly on the Tel, and the city often controlled a much broader territory. Tel Ashkelon would strictly refer to the antiquties, but the article's scope goes beyond it. Another opition I thought about was "History of Ashkelon", simmilar to how we have "History of Athens", but I think that this might confuse the people who are looking for the history of modern Ashkelon, whose place should be in the article about the modern city. Therefore, I think that Ashkelon (ancient city) is the clearest option for the scope of the article. 2. Location identification: Today, the principal site of ancient Ashkelon is known as Tel Ashkelon. This is a declared national park in Israel, and it apears by that name. The official name of the park is "Ashkelon National Park". I think it makes a lot of sense to assume, that many people who visit Israel as tourist, will likely enter this Wikipedia article. They will not be referred to Ascalon, but to Ashkelon, either Tel Ashkelon (mentioned here, here, here and [13], which were the first results I was given by google. Therefore, the site, as a location, is better identified with Ashkelon rather than Ascalon Bolter21 (talk to me) 11:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – GwangjuSongjeong station → Gwangju Songjeong station – The CamelCase version does not appear in English-language sources, while the space-separated and hyphen-separated versions do; or perhaps the hyphen should be a dash since Gwangju and Songjeong-dong are the names of the places served. Dicklyon (talk) 16:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:43, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 10:47, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Israel and apartheid → Israel's apartheid against Palestinians – This move should have been implemented years ago, when the world's most prominent human rights organization were in consensus that Israel's practices and policies in the OPT and within Israel constitute systemic discrimination against the Palestinian people, aka apartheid. The ICJ ruling yesterday by the world's highest court that this occupation constitutes apartheid was the cherry on the top. This move is long overdue, it is time to call a spade a spade. * Human Rights Watch: World Court Finds Israel Responsible for Apartheid * Amnesty International: "The occupation is a key pillar of the system of apartheid that Israel uses to dominate and oppress Palestinians, and which has caused suffering on a mass scale." * Oxfam: "The Court confirmed that Israel is committing the crime of apartheid in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, which is one of the most serious international crimes." * The Intercept: "The court also notably declared Israel’s mistreatment of Palestinians to be a form of segregation and apartheid. * The Guardian: In a historic, albeit non-binding, opinion, the court found multiple breaches of international law by Israel including activities that amounted to apartheid. * Financial Times: The court said these policies were in breach of an international agreement against racial segregation and apartheid, called the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination." . Makeandtoss (talk) 09:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – United States and the Russian invasion of Ukraine → United States support for Ukraine in the Russian invasion of Ukraine – The US has unequivocally supported Ukraine against Russia. There is no doubt about this. We should be WP:CONSISTENT with other article titles like United States support for Israel in the Israel–Hamas war, Qatari support for Hamas, British support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War, United States support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War, Israeli support for Iran during the Iran–Iraq war, French support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War, North Korean support for Iran during the Iran–Iraq War, Alleged Pakistani support for Osama bin Laden etc.VR (Please ping on reply) 15:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 06:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Berar Sultanate → Berar sultanate – Capitalization is not necessary. When I search for "Berar Sultanate" on Google Books, I find 6 of the first 10 hits user lowercase sultanate. Per the criteria at MOS:CAPS and WP:NCCAPS, we should not cap things that are not mostly capped in sources. Dicklyon (talk) 06:34, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ultime grida dalla savana → Savage Man Savage Beast – Per WP:USEENGLISH in most foreign language film titles, with the exception of La dolce vita. 49.150.14.10 (talk) 00:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 06:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – OK TV (Indonesian TV channel) → Food and Travel – Starting 1 August 2024, OKTV, which is on MNC Vision channel 95 and K-Vision channel 2, will change its name to Food and Travel because I saw the promo on the Vision+ app. -St3095 (?) 06:11, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mike Johnson (Louisiana politician) → Mike Johnson – Johnson is the most prominent "Mike Johnson", as mentioned in previous discussions; nine months into his tenure, no serious attempt to replace him has emerged. A page view analysis shows that no other Mike Johnson has even reached one thousand views since Johnson was elected speaker of the House in October, with the exception of the Canadian ice hockey player, who received nearly 3,000 views on the day that Johnson was elected to the position. Against Michael Johnsons, it is a similar situation, though Michael Johnson should remain a disambiguation page. It is clear a majority of users are looking for this Mike Johnson. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 03:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 World Friendship Games → World Friendship Games – It is unclear if the World Friendship Games will take place in 2024, after the organisers announced their postponement in early-July, according to https://www.reuters.com/sports/russias-world-friendship-games-postponed-2025-report-says-2024-07-03. I think the year should only be added if this initiative makes it to its second edition. --Minoa (talk) 01:15, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
July 19, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – Natalia Morar → Natalia Morari – This is clearly her correct surname. She uses it herself [14] [15] [16], and it's also the one used in Romanian-language sources [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] and in English-language ones [22] [23] [24] [25] (also take into account the links given by XXN in 2017 right above). In Google Scholar "Natalia Morar" has 86 results and "Natalia Morari" has 71. Morari becomes the most common form in 2011 with 62 vs. 55 for Morar, and it was clearly majoritary since 2020 with 29 results for Morari vs. 15 for Morar. Morari became the WP:COMMONNAME long ago and this should be reflected in the title. Super Ψ Dro 23:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Magnae dei matris → Magnae Dei Matris – The text uses capital letters ("Dei" means "God" and is written in capital letters in the original) Karma1998 (talk) 21:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Belarusian minority in Poland → Belarusians in Poland – This is the format for this type of articles, see Poles in Belarus, Belarusians in Russia, Belarusians in Ukraine, Belarusians in Serbia. Super Ψ Dro 21:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – De Ross → De Roos – Aligning with spelling mentioned in article; the current link redirects to Roos (surname). As mentioned on its talk, DYK prospects are high for this AFC graduate about a Delft windmill. Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:57, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Arab citizens of Israel → Palestinian and Arab citizens of Israel – Per the smart suggestion from Keizers in the discussion above, this middle ground should address the concerns of both sides. Many editors have put a lot of time into this debate over many years, so we would ask you not to vote until you have reviewed the following discussions: * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel/Archive 8#Requested move 27 October 2021 * Talk:Palestinian citizens of Israel#Requested move 26 November 2021 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palestinian citizens of Israel (6 March 2024, proposed by Keizers) * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel#Requested move 21 March 2024 Onceinawhile (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 20:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – DNCE → Dnce – Artist name is not an initialism and should be at the lowercase title as per MOS:ALLCAPS. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 19:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vijayawada Airport → Vijayawada International Airport – Why not Vijayawada International Airport when it is commonly referred to as Vijayawada International Airport? Proposing move. Inviting inputs. Thewikizoomer (talk) 19:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 CrowdStrike incident → ? – Two reasons: the first is that the lede of this article is straightforward; it instead say that there is an outrage, before saying how, where the title is derived from. Second, most reliable sources often refer this event as an outrage. The title should at least be moved to a title containing "outrage". ToadetteEdit! 16:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Not Strong Enough → Not Strong Enough (disambiguation) – The pageviews show that the Boygenius song has not been exceeded in views by the Apocalyptica song. Additionally, the Apocalyptica song is of unclear notability, as shown on its page, whereas the Boygenius song seems to be more notable. Seeing as there are only two topics, a disambiguation page might not even be needed, a hatnote could suffice. As a fan of the Boygenius song, I might be biased, but I still believe it is the primary topic. Courtesy pings to @Ss112, Dylan620, Johnny421, and HMDude3: as involved/top editors in these articles. – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) (ping me!) 15:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gray Television → Gray Media – New trade name per official website and this press release [26] Mvcg66b3r (talk) 14:33, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Adam Darski → Nergal (musician) – WP:COMMONNAME; subject is much more commonly recognized by his stage name than his legal name. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 14:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Brighton Bears (1973-2006) → Brighton Bears – Apparent unnecessary disambiguation. If some other topic is identified with this name, there should be a hatnote to identify it and the date range should at least use a dash rather than a hyphen. — BarrelProof (talk) 14:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Blair Park → Blair Park (Piedmont) – There are other Blair Parks in the state, in larger cities (San Bernardino). This would create less confusion, in my opinion but am open to thoughts. House1090 (talk) 21:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:56, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Biscotti → Cantucci – this page (including the images) refers to "cantucci" (https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantuccio), not to "biscotti" (https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscotto). Given that in Italy there are different types of biscotti, it's profoundly wrong to refer only to cantucci on a page with a name that includes all types of biscotti in Italy; if a group of non-Italians people go to Italy and ask for a biscotto, they don't just get cantucci. In conclusion, this page isn't very encyclopedic at the moment. JacktheBrown (talk) 06:01, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Léon Lippens → Léon Lippens (rower) – Since creation of the article in September 2023, there has been more interest from readers for the naturalist who died in 1986 than for the rower. — BarrelProof (talk) 05:44, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Japanese Academy Award winners and nominees → List of Japanese Emmy, Grammy, Academy, and Tony Award winners and nominees – Article title change. GeniusTaker (talk) 05:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Somebody Save Me → Somebody Save Me (Cinderella song) – Somebody Save Me (Eminem song) has been released as a single. Somebody Save Me can be a disambiguation page listing both songs. 2604:3D09:2A84:6600:8C31:A1E5:992:12E0 (talk) 03:51, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wedding of Prince Edward and Wallis Warfield → Wedding of Prince Edward and Wallis Simpson – Per consistency Wedding of Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles, which uses the bride's divorced surname, as opposed to her birth surname of Shand. 2601:346:8080:1E20:1DAE:68E4:EB1D:A007 (talk) 02:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kim Bu-sik → Kim Pu-sik – Per WP:NCKO, McCune–Reischauer romanization should be used for pre-1945 Korean names. Google NGram shows Kim Pu-sik enjoys greater currency, and therefore, supported by WP:COMMONNAME. Motjustescribe (talk) 02:05, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jeong In-ji → Chŏng In-chi – Per WP:NCKO, McCune–Reischauer romanization should be used for pre-1945 Korean names. Motjustescribe (talk) 01:55, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
July 18, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – Names for books of Jewish and Christian scripture → Names for Jewish and Christian holy books – This is a worthwhile article, but IMHO its current title is misleading. I expected "Names for books of Jewish and Christian scripture" to list the Jewish and Christian names for books of the Bible. Instead, it lists divisions within the Bible, and the more authoritative of the other Jewish types of holy books. I believe that in both religions "scripture" is only used for the Bible. "Sifrei Kodesh" is a wider category used in Judaism, literally meaning "holy books", although this does have a wider scope than the current content of the nominated article. – Fayenatic London 14:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:48, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Saddle tramp → Saddle tramp (disambiguation) – Created main space page for Saddle tramp. Name previously redirected to Saddle tramp (disambiguation) page. The title Saddle tramp should direct to this page, not the disambiguation page. There is a header link at the top of this page. Maineartists (talk) 14:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:48, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Samsung Galaxy S (2010 smartphone) → Samsung Galaxy S (original) – Whether it was made in 2010 or 2015, it IS the original. Just as we have the Xbox (console) and PlayStation (console) articles on the original or first versions and yet there are articles on their later/latest versions. Intrisit (talk) 05:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:44, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Anti-Black sentiment → Anti-Black racism – Sentiment against a 'race' is racism. Alexanderkowal (talk) 21:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:57, 29 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Killings of Carol, Hannah and Louise Hunt → 2024 Bushey killings – Requesting move per WP:NCWWW and per naming convention of similar articles where multiple victims are involved. This is Paul (talk) 17:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 22:30, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tonlé Sap → Tonlé Sap Lake – The original name before renamed after the discussion Talk:Tonlé_Sap#Rename above, due to possible confusion with the river that connect the lake and Mekong. The name "Tonlé Sap Lake" is NOT redundant at all. In that discussion user Markalexander100 stated that "Khmer and English terms aren't quite equivalent. In Khmer, as far as I can tell, there is one name- Tonle Sap- which refers to the lake and river together, while in English we differentiate them." This is not quite right because the official name of the lake in Khmer is "បឹងទន្លេសាប" (Boeng Tonle Sap), where បឹង/boeng means lake. So clearly they still have the word "lake" in the name, to differentiate it from the river. ទន្លេ/Tonle means river and that's its only meaning, not "Tonlé already means lake (or a very large, wide river)" as stated by user Dara above. For example, Mekong is "Tonlé Mekong", Bassac River is "Tonlé Bassac", Kong River is "Tonlé Kong". There's no known translation as Tonlé to "lake". Another similarly named geographic feature is the Boeng Tonle Chhmar (a smaller lake next to the Tonle Sap Lake). So to sum up, if we say "Tonle Sap" (without adding "Boeng") to the Khmer-speaking people, theoretically we are referring to the river (according to the meaning of the words). But then since the lake is too well-known, the term "Tonle Sap" will become ambiguous. However, as a matter of fact, they should be able to tell which one you are referring to, based on the context of the conversation. My suggestion is to rename this article to Tonlé Sap Lake, and have a separate article about the river. Two options for this separate article's name is: #Tonlé Sap (as per its literal meaning in Khmer) or, #Tonlé Sap (river) and Tonlé Sap becomes the disambiguation page. The reason for having a separate article for the river is simply because not everything about the river can be merged into the lake's article. For example, Phnom Penh, the state's capital, is located at the mouth of the river and there's probably something about the river related to Phnom Penh's urban planning that's worth writing about. And merging these into the lake's article would be inappropriate. ទន្លេតូច (talk) 23:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 22:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Myocheong → Myoch'ŏng – Per WP:NCKO, McCune–Reischauer romanization should be used for pre-1945 Korean names. Motjustescribe (talk) 19:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kim Jong-seo (general) → Kim Chong-sŏ – Per WP:NCKO, McCune–Reischauer romanization should be used for pre-1945 Korean names. Google NGram returns zero hits for Kim Jong-seo, whereas Kim Chong-so has been in consistent use. Motjustescribe (talk) 19:04, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – This is Orson Welles → This Is Orson Welles – MOS:CAPTITLE ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:11, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lin Qi (entrepreneur) → Lin Qi – WP:PTOPIC by page views as well as by Google Trends, and searching for just the name provides more results for this page's subject. SmittenGalaxy | talk! 00:45, 8 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Lin Qi → Lin Qi (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Template:Joondalup Line → Template:Yanchep line – The associated page, Joondalup line, has been moved to Yanchep line. This would also change the capitalisation of "line" to be consistent with Yanchep line. Steelkamp (talk) 16:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Nairobi mid-air collision → Safarilink Aviation Flight 053 – Per WP:AVTITLE, the name of an article about an accident involving a scheduled commercial airline flight should be "<airline> Flight <flight number>". Sample articles about mid-air collisions between airline flights and light general aviation aircraft include Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 182, American Airlines Flight 910, and TWA Flight 553. The "<year> <place> mid-air collision" name format is normally used when an airline flight is not involved or both aircraft are commercial airline flights. Carguychris (talk) 14:55, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Main Development Region → Main development region – Using sentence case was suggested by at least two people in the recently closed RM, and three more people used sentence case in their comments. No one explicitly objected to using sentence case, but that question was not discussed very extensively. This new RM is to explicitly consider the capitalization. The Google scholar results above and Ngrams show mixed case usage. When usage is mixed, Wikipedia prefers lowercase. — BarrelProof (talk) 13:53, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson → Lord Nelson – WP:NCPEER states that "When one holder of a title is overwhelmingly the best known", there is no need to use the full title. The 1st Viscount seems to be the most well-known Lord Nelson. This is also in line with the way articles on several other peers are titled, including Lord Kelvin, Lord and Lady Byron, and Lord Mountbatten. Векочел (talk) 13:48, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Black Widow (Yelena Belova) → Yelena Belova – While this character has predominantly used the alias "Black Widow" since her introduction in the late 1990s, she has used other aliases beyond that. Namely, these are "Super-Adaptoid starting in 2006 and most recently "White Widow" starting in 2021. While WP:Naming conventions (comics)#By codename was sufficient for the decades this character only used "Black Widow", WP:Naming conventions (comics)#By character name seems more applicable nowadays as this character has donned other names and, while Black Widow (Natasha Romanova) is largely deemed the more common/notable Black Widow, the set index Black Widow (Marvel Comics) covers other characters with this name. The character has also been more frequently referred to by her "real" WP:COMMONNAME Yelena Belova in comics and other media, and Yelena Belova (a redirect to this article), provides a WP:NATURAL disambiguation for this subject. Trailblazer101 (talk) 19:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 19:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 13:44, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Joyce brothers → Joyce brothers (disambiguation) – Came up in Articles for deletion/Joyce brothers (which just closed as keep this morning; I don't think this would be a too soon procedural issue because of that, but excuse me if it is) that perhaps this move would be preferred. If this page is being kept, then I think the least we can do is make this move and redirect the current name to Joyce Brothers to reduce the SURPRISE which I expressed my concern about in the AfD. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:55, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- (Discuss) – Independence of Maldives → Independence of the Maldives – "the" should be there between of and Maldives, it was the original name of the article but i moved it few months ago by mistake. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 10:39, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ted Wilson (1943-2013) → Ted Wilson (ice skating) – More typical disambiguation format. — BarrelProof (talk) 08:30, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Aldo, Giovanni & Giacomo → Aldo, Giovanni e Giacomo – I don't think the "&" symbol is appropriate in this case. JacktheBrown (talk) 07:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nushki District → Noshki District – There seem to be conflicting sources on the name of the district; some sources will use Noshki, renamed from Noshkay, while others will use Nushki. Noshki, from what I can find, seems to be both the more common among reliable sources, and also the correct name. If consensus can be found to move this page, I'll also be renaming related pages Nushki and Nushki shooting, as they'd be renamed for the same reason. SmittenGalaxy | talk! 06:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Quadrantal (talk) 07:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Xi–Li Administration → Xi Jinping–Li Keqiang Administration – There are two premiers under Xi Jinping in China with the exact same surname: Li Keqiang and Li Qiang. Better to specify it here to avoid potential ambiguity. Also, it can be very confusing for people who are not familiar with China politics topics. Wikipedia is meant for all — not only for those who are familiar with the topic. Cfls (talk) 03:24, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Stephanie Scully → Steph Scully – Very clear WP:COMMONNAME from article's sources. U-Mos (talk) 12:36, 3 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 23:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- (Discuss) – British support for Israel in the Israel–Hamas war → United Kingdom and the Israel–Hamas war – Not only match two other articles, Qatar and the United States about their role in this war, but a word like "support" isn't neutral even if the UK policy is to support Israel in this conflict. The article does make mention of opposition to the government support for Israel, therefore this isn't solely about support for Israel. The title should be reflected in a more precise manner than an outright position of support or opposition in the title. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:58, 8 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Adumbrativus (talk) 08:02, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – RAI → Rai (Italian broadcasting company) – the common name is "Rai"; see the official site: https://www.rai.it/, the Treccani encyclopaedia: https://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/rai-radiotelevisione-italiana/, and the it.wiki page: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai. JacktheBrown (talk) 22:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Global War Party → Global war party – Per MOS:CAPS GnocchiFan (talk) 20:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita → Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita, 2023 – As per the earlier request, now that the bill is passed and the Act is live. - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bharatiya_Nyaya_Sanhita,_2023&oldid=1189635548 Thewikizoomer (talk) 06:39, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trump raised-fist photographs → Donald Trump fist pump photographs – While his fist is raised in the images, he was actually carrying out a fist pump while being escorted off stage. Also "Trump raised fist" doesn't include the first name of the main subject of the photograph, and just doesn't sound right. Sir MemeGod ._. (talk - contribs - created articles) 05:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel – I believe that enough time has passed since the last RM (which proposed the simpler "7 October attacks" name and closed with consensus to retain the current title) to re-propose a title change for this article. I believe that "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel" is the WP:COMMONNAME for this event, as seen in sources such as: * Al Jazeera: "... counter the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which saw ..." * Bloomberg: "... trapped in Gaza since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which prompted ..." * CBC: "... around the world since the Hamas-led attacks on Israel of Oct. 7 but are now ..." * CNN: "... from the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel being held ..." * Euracitiv: "... triggered by the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel in which ..." * France24: "Before the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that triggered ..." * ISW: "... spokesperson claimed that the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel was retaliation ..." * Middle East Eye: "Following the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel and subsequent ..." * NPR: "... Palestinian armed groups since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that set off the war ..." * NYTimes: "... including some who participated in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, and that ..." * Reuters: "... were involved in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that precipitated ..." * Times of Israel: "... during and after the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel." * The Conversation: "... participated in the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which resulted ... " * WaPo: "Since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, restrictions have ..." Many sources simply say "7 October" or "October 7 attacks" instead of spelling out the full name, but I believe that while "7 October attacks" could be a more COMMON name, I think that it fails WP:AT#Precision in favor of "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel." DecafPotato (talk) 00:43, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 14:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Doctor Who season 1 → Doctor Who season 1 (1963–1964) – I think there is a consensus for another requested move and for these move to be part of it, so I am starting another formal requested move. Cal3000000 (talk) 07:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:23, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – James House → James House (disambiguation) – The only other entities with the exact name "James House" are James House (Rogers, Arkansas) and James House (Pensacola, Florida), which both have less than one page view per day. The singer has over 25. Everything else on the dab page James House except for the singer's album is a partial title match with at least one word other than "James House" in the title. From this evidence, it's abundantly clear that the singer is by far the most common result for people looking for the exact name "James House", and should therefore be the primary topic. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 05:08, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – De La Salle Green Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Green Archers volleyball – The above existing pages have titles that do emulate the placement of a disambiguating sports descriptor after the team name, per WP:QUALIFIER. This style of adding descriptors has been prescribed by example by, among other similar college-sports WikiProjects, this page under WP:CBBALL and this page under WP:CFB for titles of pages about United States college teams. Clearly, these descriptors were prescribed in order to naturally disambiguate (by WP:NATURAL) a page about a team playing a certain sport from pages about namesake teams that are playing in other sports. In each of the team pages above being requested for moving, however, 1) the team name used is not that of its institution's team's uniform or collective name but the special nickname or unique moniker given to that specific team playing in its sport, so much so that the need for disambiguation disappears. 2) what is produced by the addition of a disambiguating sport descriptor after the team's special nickname is a redundancy. For example, there are no other De La Salle Green Spikers other than the De La Salle Green Archers team playing men's volleyball. For having a redundant title, the page's title then creates WP:OVERPRECISION and breaches the WP:CONCISE rule. That, however, can be salvaged by replacing the special moniker with the institution's team's uniform or collective name, a replacement which is what would have the need for disambiguation and erase the redundancy. Bagoto (talk) 09:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- De La Salle Lady Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Lady Archers volleyball
- De La Salle Lady Booters football → De La Salle Lady Archers football
- UST Golden Spikers volleyball → UST Growling Tigers volleyball
- UST Golden Tigresses volleyball → UST Tigresses volleyball
- UST Lady Booters football → UST Tigresses football
- (Discuss) – List of Mario franchise characters → List of Mario characters – More concise title, WP:CONSISTENT with other video game franchise characters lists: *List of Donkey Kong characters *List of The Legend of Zelda characters *List of Star Fox characters etc. Mia Mahey (talk) 17:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – President of the Republic of China → President of Taiwan – WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC as with the recent move of the President of the People's Republic of China to the President of China. However, now with the ROC largely lost legitimacy to claim as the legitimate government of the Chinese state, let's move some of the pre-1949 historical context of these articles to the (office post) of China and let these articles focus on the history of the heads of state and government on Taiwan during Qing, Japanese colonial rule and the ROC since 1945. Silence of Lambs (talk) 22:50, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 10:29, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ibrahim al-Maqadma Mosque missile strike → Ibrahim al-Maqadma Mosque attack – It is not at all clear that what happened was the result of missiles launched by a manned aircraft. Forward quotes lieutenant colonel in the Israel army calling it "a drone attack", while The Guardian blames "Israeli shells" and "artillery fire" for the attack. An article in the Journal of Palestine Studies also calls it "shelling". The most detailed account is given in the Goldstone report as "The attack on the al-Maqadmah mosque".VR (Please ping on reply) 04:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:TSGN and SE Stations → Template:Railway stations served by Govia Thameslink Railway – While a move is required to remove the unnecessary caps in "Stations", the move will also make the naming convention of this template consistent with other TOC station templates, as indicated by the consensus reached at the RM at Template talk:Railway stations served by c2c. The suggested title stems from the fact that Thameslink, Southern, and Great Northern are all a part of Govia Thameslink. At the same time, I'd like to request the Southeastern content be split into a new template called Template:Railway stations served by Southeastern for the same reasons. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 23:54, 19 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Twitter under Elon Musk → X (social network) – See Talk:Twitter#Requested move 17 May 2024 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:25, 24 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sexual and gender-based violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → Sexual violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel – Gender-based violence is defined as "any type of harm that is perpetrated against a person or group of people because of their factual or perceived sex, gender, sexual orientation and/or gender identity".[1] It is not currently clear that this article deals with any such violence other than that of a sexual nature, and even then, the lede states that male Israelis were also subjected to sexual violence (which if true suggests that it was not gender-based). A previous discussion on this topic has also shown that many people do not understand what the term "gender-based violence" actually means, so whether including it in the title is usefully descriptive is quite questionable.
References
- ^ "What is gender-based violence? - Gender Matters". Council of Europe.
- TRCRF22 (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Srebrenica massacre → Srebrenica genocide – I suggest that we rename this article to "Srebrenica genocide" now that the UN has issued its resolution on the matter today, designating July 11 as the International Day of Reflection and Commemoration of the 1995 Genocide in Srebrenica Please also check the discussion above. Njamu (talk) 06:56, 2 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Nuseirat rescue operation → Nuseirat raid and rescue – Most sources are dual referencing this as a raid, attack or assault rather than just as a rescue. Guardian "Israeli attacks in central Gaza killed scores of Palestinians, many of them civilians, on Saturday amid a special forces operation to free four hostages held there, with the death toll sparking international outrage." NYT "Israeli soldiers and special operations police rescued four hostages from Gaza on Saturday amid a heavy air and ground assault",CNN "Israel’s operation to rescue four hostages took weeks of preparation and involved hundreds of personnel, its military said. But the mission began with a trail of destruction in central Gaza and ended in carnage, according to local authorities." Selfstudier (talk) 15:06, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Malformed requests
[edit]- Talk:Battle of Changsha (1939) – Pagename to be moved listed below template: Battle of Changsha (1939) → First Battle of Changsha – Battle of Changsha (1941–1942) does not match name in template: Battle of Changsha (1939). – Page may have been moved to the requested title.
Possibly incomplete requests
[edit]- Talk:Joyce brothers – Joyce brothers is requested for move to Joyce brothers (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?