Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions

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September 6, 2024

(Discuss) – Les Films du losange → Les Films du Losange – 'Losange' capitalised appears to be the most commonly used form in both English[1], [2], [3], [4] [5][6][7] and French sources[8][9][10] [11][12]. The company themself also self-identify with 'Losange' capitalised.[13][14][15][16][17] MOS:FRENCHCAPS does not apply here as this is a company, not a creative work. Οἶδα (talk) 23:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 00:45, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Robotics conventions → Line representations in robotics – This article seems to be all about line representations and not as general as the title implies. Maybe rename to "Line representations in robotics"? RJFJR (talk) 00:19, 30 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 00:44, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 5, 2024

(Discuss) – Tyla (English musician) → Tyla J. Pallas – Tyla is more known as Tyla J. Pallas and it is also the common name that's associated towards him. Most articles and sources say Tyla J. Pallas and so therefore it should be changed to that similar to how Tyla (South African singer) has now been changed to Tyla. This0k (talk) 22:05, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Back to the Basics (album) → Back to the Basics (mixtape) – Sources describe the project as a mixtape. Redirect Back to the Basics (album) to Back_to_Basics#Albums मल्ल (talk) 22:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Mahanama of Anuradhapura → King Mahanama – Procedural nomination as a follow up to the discussion at Talk:Pandukabhaya#Requested move 22 August 2024. The previous request suggested that there is no need to disambiguate from other rulers for these titles, but another editor raised the question of whether the proposed titles are in accordance with WP:NCROY. Dekimasuよ! 03:57, 29 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 20:34, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Lilavati of Polonnaruwa → Queen Lilavati

(Discuss) – George Heriot (died 1610) → George Heriot (Edinburgh MP) – or George Heriot (MP for Edinburgh) or George Heriot (goldsmith, died 1610). At the risk of needing to find a different example to use for WP:NCP (perhaps Joanna of Austria (born 1573)), this person held a notable position as an MP. He even represented Edinburgh at a meeting with the king during an existential emergency. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:25, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – List of Dreamcast homebrew games → ? – First of all the user above who commented in 2019 is right in saying that the article is not strictly about 'homebrew', so it's incacurate. Secondly, it's not strictly a list anymore as there is a ton of content above it. I am suggesting maybe a title like Homebrew and independent Dreamcast games but as I'm not sure what it should be I am leaving it open for whatever the community agrees on. Sceeegt (talk) 18:02, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Franz Joseph I of Austria → Franz Joseph I – My first reason is that Franz Jospeh I already redirects here, meaning that he is clearly the primary topic. My second reason is because if you look at Google Ngram Viewer the name without Austria is clearly leading and always has been. History6042 (talk) 13:23, 29 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 17:51, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Pakistan National Congress → Bangladesh National Congress – There is no proof that Pakistan National Congress existed in Pakistan after Bangladesh Liberation War. The sources in the article clearly indicated that Pakistan National Congress became Bangladesh National Congress in 1971. It also participated in the 1973 Bangladeshi general election. On the other hand, Pakistan National Congress didn’t join 1977 Pakistani general election. In that sense, Bangladesh National Congress is the only successor of the Pakistan National Congress. Also, there is no proof we find that will lead us to believe that many politicians from West Pakistan were in this party, the names of the PNC politicians from the sources we find are mostly from East Pakistan which is now Bangladesh. It should be renamed to Bangladesh National Congress. However, if anyone can show us proofs stating many West Pakistani politicians were in that party then I would propose to rename it as "National Congress (1947–1975)". Mehedi Abedin 14:33, 29 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 17:41, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson → Horatio Nelson – Per Britannica and WP:CONCISE there doesn't seem a need for the "1st Viscount Nelson" like Anthony Eden per WP:OBE given he's primary for this term. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:36, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Tel Aviv–Jerusalem bus 405 suicide attack → Tel Aviv–Jerusalem bus 405 hijacking – He survived. FourPi (talk) 14:36, 29 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 17:36, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Asif Ali Zardari → Asif Zardari – According to the vast majority of sources in Google Books, his common name is Asif Zardari. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 17:04, 25 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 15:37, 29 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 17:27, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Neo Geo (system) → Neo Geo – As argued above, 'Neo Geo' refers primarily (PRIMARYNAME) to what this article is talking about - as opposed to the other entries in Neo Geo (disambiguation). It is also inaccurate to call Neo Geo a 'family' as they are very distinct and different hardware (not like Atari 8-bit computers) only sharing similar names. As for the current Neo Geo article: the entire 'Retro consoles' section (which makes up more than half of it) is directly related to the topic of this (currently Neo Geo (system)) article specifically - therefore, that section would be merged here. The rest of the article would be redundant as it is merely a list and a 'family' even though it isn't - the info is already well covered in SNK, the manufacturer of these products. It is also poorly sourced as we speak, anyway, and with questionable accuracy (infobox 'discontinued in 2004' refers to this 'Neo Geo (system)' article, the logo is also representative of what is currently 'Neo Geo (system)', not another product). Sceeegt (talk) 15:49, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – PGI Management → Pas Grau International – PGI Management to be renamed to Pas Grau International as the company no longers refer as PGI Management Pasgrau (talk) 14:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Dragon Slayer (series) → Dragon Slayer – This page was moved away from the un-disambiguated title by Anthony Appleyard in 2018, with the assertion there is no primary topic. However, I believe that WP:DIFFCAPS and pageviews demonstrate that it is primary for the capitalized version. No other page, besides the first video game in said series, gets any sort of significant pageviews, and typically series get the primary name unless the game is exceedingly famous for whatever reason. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:10, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – School Strike for Climate → Fridays for Future – The naming here appears to be a bit of a head scratcher. It resembles a capitalised descriptive title, but is based on a literal transliteration of a phrase in Swedish once held up by Greta. And yet it was never the common name for the climate movement, which quickly adopted "Fridays for Future" as the WP:COMMONNAME for its international actions and campaigning. This is more than evident from Ngrams, which reveals a pretty wide gulf in respective usage. The FFF name is also now incredibly consistent in its usage by the organisation, down to the naming of its chapters, e.g. FFF Sweden, FFF Deutschland, etc., and it's also pretty descriptive, i.e. they protest on Fridays on issues related to the future. There appears to be comparatively little cause, if any, to use the current title, which rises to nothing even approaching a WP:COMMONNAME. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:36, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Ajayante Randam Moshanam → ARM (film) – Per WP:NAMECHANGES. It was previously titled Ajayante Randam Moshanam during initial stages, but later changed to ARM with the former name finding mention nowhere in the posters and promotional materials (even though some third-party sources still mention the expanded form alongside ARM). Sources: [18], [19], [20], [21],[22],[23]. 117.230.25.251 (talk) 07:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Hans Koch → Hans Koch (lawyer) – Per WP:NOPRIMARY the disambiguation page should be located at Hans Koch. There is no obvious primary in this case. I note that the current primary is poorly sourced and may not be notable. Also, the SS officer is what pops up in a google search, so if there is a primary that would be the one. Given the number of potential targets I believe no primary applies. 4meter4 (talk) 03:50, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Hans Koch (disambiguation) → Hans Koch

(Discuss) – Billy Richardson → Billy Richardson (footballer, born 1920) – Ambiguous with Billy Richardson (footballer, born 1896), Billy Richardson (Pony Express rider), and possibly others at the William Richardson dabpage. Article receives minimal traffic, not the primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 03:43, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Instrument landing system glide path → Glide path – This seems unnecessarily specific, since glide paths can be used by other landing systems as well. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 03:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – People ... Hold On → ? – Looking through sources, a lot of them have the title be either People... Hold On or People...Hold On, and I'm not sure which would be the more correct title. reppop^talk 01:08, 29 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 02:06, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Hawk Tuah Girl → Hawk Tuah – The closure of the previous AfD stated we should make it primarily about the meme rather than the person, and the corresponding discussion was clear that the article should not exist to cover only Haliey Welch because of WP:BLP1E but should instead focus on the event. The current title was chosen unilaterally and I think fails to orient the article towards the meme/phenomenon/video, and instead continues to orient the article around the individual. I am therefore proposing the article be renamed to simply Hawk tuah (capitalisation up for discussion) in similar fashion to other articles that discuss viral phrases, see You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?. This would also address several of the concerns raised on this talk page about the unusual/informal current page name. EoRdE6^(Talk) 01:43, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 4, 2024

(Discuss) – John Davidson (actor) → John Davidson (actor, born 1886) – Ambiguous with John Davidson (entertainer), who gets the quasi-totality of pageviews.[24] Retarget John Davidson (actor) to the latter. 162 etc. (talk) 23:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – The Smurfs (film) → The Smurfs (2011 film) – Insufficient disambiguation. There is an upcoming animated film titled The Smurfs Movie which will be released in 2025, whereas the 2011 live-action/animated film is referred to simply as The Smurfs. ScarletViolet t c 01:02, 27 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 23:27, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – TweetDeck → X Pro – This was requested by another user on the TweetDeck article talk page, because the service has been renamed to X Pro. The page 'X Pro' already exists as a redirect to TweetDeck and so would need to be deleted before this move can take place. Onyxqk (talk) 21:18, 4 September 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Onyxqk (talk) 22:18, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Diffie–Hellman key exchange → Diffie-Hellman Method – On first encountering "Diffie-Hellman key exchange", the image evoked in my head was that A and B somehow exchange their secret key and I'm probably not alone. A Google search for "key agreement vs key exchange diffie hellman" is quite illuminating. All non-Wikipedia articles indicate that the most Generic term ("Diffie-Hellman Method") would be better-suited to serve as title for the description of this method/protocol than a title that highlights any particular aspect of the method such as “key exchange”. AliBabbaD (talk) 21:27, 4 September 2024 (UTC) AliBabbaD (talk) 21:11, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Machynlleth Town railway station → Original Corris Railway station, Machynlleth – The article states that the station was unnamed, and therefore "Machynlleth Town" is made up. This is misleading, therefore I suggest simply referring to it as the original Corris Railway station in the title and throughout the article. — Voice of Clam (talk) 20:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Artemis 1 → Artemis I – NASA has consistently used roman numerals for Artemis mission names. We currently, and somewhat awkwardly, reference this in the first line of each page. :For example: "Artemis 3, officially Artemis III, is...". For the sake of accuracy and simplicity, I would like to propose we move the pages to use the same roman numeral convention. RickyCourtney (talk) 20:18, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Artemis 2 → Artemis II
- Artemis 3 → Artemis III
- Artemis 4 → Artemis IV
- Artemis 5 → Artemis V

(Discuss) – Institut québécois de planification financière → Institute of Financial Planning – The IQPF was renamed Institute of Financial Planning on December 4, 2023. Khavaella (talk) 19:45, 28 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 18:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Amadou Koné (Ivorian footballer) → Amadou Koné (footballer, born May 2005) – Initially, the articles were located at Amadou Koné (footballer) and Amadou Koné (soccer) respectively, but I knew that was wrong since we don't disambiguate by football vs soccer, so I moved them to Amadou Koné (footballer, born May 2005) and Amadou Koné (soccer, born January 2005), as per disambiguation per birth year (and month when need be). However, RedPatch recently moved the players to Amadou Koné (Ivorian footballer) and Amadou Koné (Canadian soccer), on the basis that since they have different nationalities, they can be disambiguated by nationality first. This is the standard, number one method of disambiguation for footballers we use at WP:WPF. Nationality first, and if that doesn't work, then birth year, birth month. I would agree with RedPatch in most situations like this. However, here, there is a "complicated" nationality scenario for the first Amadou Koné. He was born in Mali, grew up in Mali, represents Ivory Coast at international level, and holds both nationalities (all according to his article). The long-term consensus at WPF in these types of "double nationality, and discrepancy between birth country and country being represented" is to remove the nationality from the first sentence and to explain it further down in the lede (as is done here for Koné). If we (the project) agree that we can't classify the player as "Ivorian" in the first sentence, then, we also cannot classify him as "Ivorian" in the title of the article. My rationale for this move is basically just the overall consensus of the WikiProject in these nationality scenarios.
I'm not gonna explain further why we don't do Ivorian-Malian, most of you all know why.
Anecdote: all the notable players that hail from the Afrique Football Élite academy in Mali have some kind of connection to both Mali and Ivory Coast: either they're born in Ivory Coast with Malian descent, born in Mali with Ivorian descent, or born in Ivory Coast but emigrated to Mali (and the guy for which this latter scenario is the case has Malian descent according to the unreliable Transfermarkt).Paul Vaurie (talk) 18:36, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Amadou Koné (Canadian soccer) → Amadou Koné (soccer, born January 2005)

(Discuss) – Celin Bizet Ildhusøy → Celin Bizet – Per recently added BBC source plus social media profiles Instagram, X, plus commentators may say the name Bizet should she feature on TV football. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 16:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – George Albert, Margrave of Brandenburg-Kulmbach → Georg Albrecht, Margrave of Brandenburg-Kulmbach – Both online cited sources use "Georg" (without "e") and "Albrecht". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 23:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 16:54, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Palestinian territories → Occupied Palestinian Territory – This terminology has become standard across all official sources, the United Nations, itself and in its resolutions, and at the International Court of Justice (ICJ), in 2004 and reaffirmed in 2024, the EU and in many secondary sources. The ICJ concluded that the West Bank and Gaza are a single territorial unit: However, the Court recalls that, from a legal standpoint, the Occupied Palestinian Territory constitutes a single territorial unit, the unity, contiguity and integrity of which is to be preserved and respected. Thus, all references in this Opinion to the Occupied Palestinian Territory are references to this single territorial unit. Although still used in sources, and should remain as an aka, the existing title is currently an anachronism. Note that the OPT is also equivalent geographically to the area claimed by the State of Palestine. Selfstudier (talk) 10:17, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 16:15, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 15:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Rock-climbing equipment → Rock climbing equipment – I'm not seeing much sourcing supporting the dash and this would maintain consistency with Rock climbing. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:35, 28 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Israel–Hamas war → Israel–Gaza war – Despite the move request to Israel-Gaza war being closed as no consensus in February 2024, a lot has changed since then and RS have converged to use this name. This move is long overdue and aligns with the relevant Wikipedia guidelines of WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMECHANGE. RS per WP that uses the Israel-Gaza war name as the title of their coverage category: * The Guardian: Israel-Gaza war * The Washington Post: Israel-Gaza war * BBC: Israel-Gaza war * NPR: Israel-Gaza war * The Conservation: Israel-Gaza war * Al Jazeera: Israel's war on Gaza Other RS that uses the Israel-Gaza war name as the title of their coverage category: * Doctors Without Borders: Israel-Gaza war * Committee to Protect Journalists: Israel-Gaza conflict * The National: Israel-Gaza war * Middle East Eye: Israel's war on Gaza RS per WP that uses the Israel-Gaza war in their coverage: * Reuters: [25], [26], [27]: Israel-Gaza war * CBS news: [28] Israel-Gaza war * Vox: [29], [30]: Israel's war in Gaza This name change would also align with a third Wikipedia guideline, all five of the WP:CRITERIA one, namely #5 on Consistency, as this would align with Gaza War (2008–2009) and 2014 Gaza war. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC) :Update to add other RS mentioning Gaza instead of Hamas in one way or another in at least one instance: * Save the Children: [31]: War in Gaza as coverage category title * Haaretz Israeli newspaper: [32]: Gaza war as coverage category title (RS per WP) * Relief Web: Relief Web: Gaza war * Crisis Group: [33]: Gaza war * Norwegian Refugee Council: [34]: Gaza conflict Makeandtoss (talk) 11:38, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 15:12, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Drácula contra Frankenstein → Dracula, Prisoner of Frankenstein – Per WP:NCFF, "Use the title more commonly recognized by English readers; normally this means the title under which it has been released in cinemas or on video in the English-speaking world." This film has been released to English audiences under the title Dracula, Prisoner of Frankenstein here. I have not seen any other English titles referring to this film. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Wakin goldfish → Wakin – No disambiguation needed, see Tosakin, Jikin, etc. as format examples. Gryffindor (talk) 15:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Fortnite seasonal events → List of Fortnite seasonal events – Let's call a spade a spade, there's no need for beating around the bush, this is an obvious list in table format. List-class articles should be named as such, for the most part it's not a prose explanation of the concept of seasonal events. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 14:48, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Lam Dorji → Lam Dorji (military personnel) – no clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 23:21, 26 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 14:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Signify N.V. → Signify – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Signify → Signify (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) – Moggy → Domestic cat (landrace) – Wikipedia is a worldwide resource. Cats are found worldwide. There is no place for a localized colloquialism to be a MAIN page reference on Wikipedia. I am located in the United States and never once have I ever heard the term “moggy” used to refer to a cat. The merging of Domestic short-haired cat and Domestic long-haired cat was an appropriate move as the only difference is the gene for hair growth. However, I don’t understand why a slang term page was revived from like, 2007 to merge the two pages together. Wikipedia Manual of Style in the Opportunities for Commonality section states that as an international English-speaking Wikipedia, using universally accepted terms is much more appropriate. For example, “to mog” or “mogging” in Gen Alpha terms - see mog. Nobody outside of Britian or Australia even knows what a moggy is. To make things messier, there were previous merges and fights about “moggy” vs. “moggie.” Y’all do not need a page for your local colloquialism. Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Opportunities for commonality bullet points 1-4. My new write-up for the beginning of the new article also explains this landrace breed, using hyphenation glossing as is suggested by the Manual of Style: A Domestic shorthair or Domestic longhair cat, sometimes regionally referred to as a moggy, is a landrace breed of cat reproducing without human intervention for type. The vast majority of cats worldwide lack any pedigree ancestry. The landrace can include cats living with humans or in feral colonies. Gene flow moves between the two populations as feral cats are tamed, housecats are released, and free-roaming unneutered cats breed freely. Simmy27star (talk) 11:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – LimeLight → Madein – LimeLight re-debuted as Madein on September 3, 2024, with the addition of four members (see Korean articles on Naver search results). 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 ^{[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]} 16:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 ^{[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]} 11:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - FIVB Volleyball Men's World Championship → FIVB Men's Volleyball World Championship – Per WP:CONSISTENT. Most Wikipedia articles on sports events have this chronology in their titles: the year of the event first, followed by the organizer's name or acronym, followed by the gender-determiner of the event, and finally the event's name (where the name of the sport may be part of the name). The early versions of the FIVB world championship in question here were simply called "World Championship". Then they became the "Volleyball World Championship". Somewhere along the way, circa 2014-2018, it would seem that the event's new logo and banner designs confused the arrangement or chronology, so that the events became known as the "FIVB Volleyball [gender-determiner] World Championship". Thankfully, in the 2022 version of the event, the event's banner referred to the event as the "Volleyball World Championship" once again. As does the new 2025 logo/banner. Therefore the gender-determiner of the events can now be placed before that whole name again instead of after "FIVB Volleyball", which was actually weird. Whew! Bagoto (talk) 10:41, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Altaic languages → Altaic hypothesis – Per above This article has been a constant struggle to get the academic consensus to be the focus of the article, particularly in light of many people simply not realizing the Altaic hypothesis isn't actually widely accepted as fact. "Altaic hypothesis" is heavily used in the literature (i.e. here) and allows us to differentiate the sprachbund and language family arguments more clearly in the body of the article. It also means someone looking up the topic on Wikipedia who isn't familiar with it isn't going to be met with the same heading we use for language families followed up immediately by a statement that it isn't likely a genetic language family. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 09:27, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Part One → Part One (The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band album) – Pageviews shows here that the album is not even close to being the primary usage. The current target should be retargeted to Part 1. Gonnym (talk) 09:05, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Haakon Magnusson of Norway → Haakon Toresfostre – "of Norway" is a poor disambiguator when all the other Haakon Magnussons are also kings of Norway. Håkon Toresfostre is a more common spelling in the literature, but the spelling with double a is more consistent with the WP article titles of other royal Haakons. Håkon Magnusson Toresfostre is also a common name, but the suggested title is more concise. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 18:55, 26 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 07:48, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – List of programs broadcast by OLN → List of programs broadcast by Bravo (Canadian TV network) – Completing on behalf of the above IP user. Natg 19 (talk) 06:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – The Adecco Group → Adecco – The use of the leading "the" and the suffix (group) in RS is mixed, with no evidence that it is considered an integral part of the name. The two moves (in 2016 and 2017), while following official naming of the company (WP:OFFICIAL) are thus inconsistent with English Wikipedia titling conventions, both in general ([WP:UCRN]], WP:CONCISE) and company specific (WP:NCCORP), which indicate that such prefixes and suffixes should not be included where not required to fully identify the topic to a person familiar with the general subject area. Alpha3031 (t • c) 06:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Eleme, Rivers → Eleme, Nigeria – This article and its talk page should be moved immediately as per consensus and guidelines of WP:PLACEDAB; compare Offa, Nigeria. From observation, it has been moved several times without discussion. Jõsé^hola 03:41, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Gulen → Gulen (municipality) – There are seven entries listed upon the Gulen (disambiguation) page, with no indication that the Norwegian municipality (population 2,228) is renowned to the extent of overshadowing the combined notability of the remaining six entries. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:41, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Gulen (disambiguation) → Gulen

September 3, 2024

(Discuss) - Yang Pao-an → Yang Pao'an – There's two English-language sources cited here, of which one does not mention Yang (Fenby 2003 is only cited to verify the massacre). The other English-language source is a book by Chiang Kai-shek in the 1960s. Chiang's book is one of two English-language sources to use this hyphenated name. Contemporary reliable English-language sources appear to largely use Yang Pao'an (sources that use Yang Pao'an: Horrocks 1994, Yin et al. 2024, Chan 1999, Zhao 2023, Cheek 1997 and Niu 2022; sources that use Yang Paoan: Chan 2009; sources that use Yang Pao-an: Jordan 1976; sources that use Yang Pao An: South China Morning Post). ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 23:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Nidamanuru, Vijayawada → Nidamanuru – It is Nidamanuru, a neighbourhood, the unilateral move to Nidamanuru, Vijayawada is unexplained and don't understand their point. No Nidamanuru other than the one in Vijayawada exists, hence move it back to Nidamanuru. Thewikizoomer (talk) 18:45, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:35, 27 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 23:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Silent fox signal → Silent fox gesture – The wording of the current title is barely ever used according to a web search. "Silent fox gesture" or just "Silent fox" appear to be way more common. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 14:34, 27 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 23:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Premiership of Muhammad Yunus → Chief Advisership of Muhammad Yunus – He is not prime minister, we can't call it his premiership. Although Chief adviser is similar to the post of prime minister, they are not elected. They don't live in the prime minister's residence. Chief adviser is the head of the interim government who watches the country untill election happens. Mehedi Abedin 21:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 22:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Vilyeyka → Vileyka – WP:COMMONNAME: most common English name, which any general-purpose rules cannot trump. google ngram does not see 'Vilyeyka' in books at all --Altenmann >talk 21:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – MoSoSo → Mobile social software – None of the references listed in the page refer to mobile social software as "MoSoSo", and I could not find the acronym anywhere on Google search results that were not copied from Wikipedia. Game2Winter (talk) 21:16, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Shar → Shar (file format) – Looking through the pages listed on the disambiguation page, there seems to be no clear primary topic for "shar". Third party search engines seem to bring up results primarily for Shar (Forgotten Realms), while page views on Wikipedia hint at there being no primary. Steel1943 (talk) 19:57, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Shar (disambiguation) → Shar

(Discuss) – Shaar HaNegev school bus attack → Sha'ar HaNegev school bus attack – It is unclear why the title of this page does not spell "Shaar" as "Sha'ar" when the subject which this article's subject seems to be a related topic of, Sha'ar HaNegev Regional Council, spells the word as "Sha'ar". (At first, this seemed potentially uncontroversial, but I opened up this request since the subject matter of this article is subject to "arbitration remedies".) Steel1943 (talk) 19:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Muslim grooming gangs in the United Kingdom → Grooming Gang Moral Panic in UK – Last RM was a mess, had only three folks discussing a POV mess of an article. Now that we reverted back before all these POV edits, and more folks have their eyes on this, we should consider appropriate, less inflammatory, names Bluethricecreamman (talk) 16:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – De-aging in motion pictures and television → De-aging – Per WP:PRECISION, since the term redirects here. Besides, de-aging only applies to works of fiction and not real life. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Andrea Kimi Antonelli → Kimi Antonelli – WP:COMMONNAME. Unnamelessness (talk) 12:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – H2X → AN/APS-15 – The article's lede immediately identifies that the only system discussed is the AN/APS-15. It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be like either "AN/APS-15" or including the system name and type like "AN/APS-15 H2X radar". For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This move would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either AN/APS-15 or AN/APS-15 H2X radar. But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 21:20, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 18:33, 25 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 08:57, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Wikipedia:GLAM/British Library/IDP → Wikipedia:GLAM/British Library/International Dunhuang Project – IDP is an ambiguous name. The full name used in the lead should be used here instead. Gonnym (talk) 08:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Twitter → X (social network) – Before reading this move request, the comments written on the move requests I opened on this article and Twitter under Elon Musk should be read. I am opening this move request for a second and final time given wbm1058's closure of the latter move request two days ago, which is well-articulated and notes that the AP Stylebook no longer requires "X, formerly known as Twitter", as mentioned by an editor here. The New York Times does not mention Twitter unless in reference to an action or statement made prior to July 2023. The strongest argument that opponents of a move have—that Twitter is the common name—is a difficult claim to substantiate, even with fallible Google Trends data. The page notice and WP:COMMONNAME defer to reliable sources. Efforts to move this article in the past were premature. In terms of the claim that the history and cultural impact of Twitter should bear weight, I note that Guaranteed Rate Field is named such, though many continue to refer to the South Side baseball field as Comiskey Park. The use of parentheses in the proposed move target is unfortunate, but Wikipedia does not always decide what products are named. If X was the original name of Twitter, this article would be named appropriately. Threads (social network) is not named P92 or Project 92 because of an aversion of parentheses. This move request should not cover the status of Twitter under Elon Musk, though discussing a page move if this article is moved would not be improper. As wbm1058 stated, "scope-changing issues are problematic with project guidelines." Consensus would have been solidified if moving Twitter under Elon Musk to X (social network) had not been proposed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:13, 25 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 07:29, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel – I believe that enough time has passed since the last RM (which proposed the simpler "7 October attacks" name and closed with consensus to retain the current title) to re-propose a title change for this article. I believe that "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel" is the WP:COMMONNAME for this event, as seen in sources such as: * Al Jazeera: "... counter the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which saw ..." * Bloomberg: "... trapped in Gaza since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which prompted ..." * CBC: "... around the world since the Hamas-led attacks on Israel of Oct. 7 but are now ..." * CNN: "... from the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel being held ..." * Euracitiv: "... triggered by the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel in which ..." * France24: "Before the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that triggered ..." * ISW: "... spokesperson claimed that the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel was retaliation ..." * Middle East Eye: "Following the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel and subsequent ..." * NPR: "... Palestinian armed groups since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that set off the war ..." * NYTimes: "... including some who participated in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, and that ..." * Reuters: "... were involved in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that precipitated ..." * Times of Israel: "... during and after the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel." * The Conversation: "... participated in the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which resulted ... " * WaPo: "Since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, restrictions have ..." Many sources simply say "7 October" or "October 7 attacks" instead of spelling out the full name, but I believe that while "7 October attacks" could be a more COMMON name, I think that it fails WP:AT#Precision in favor of "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel." DecafPotato (talk) 00:43, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 14:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 07:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – German science fiction literature → German science fiction – This article already mentions films, and often talks about the genre; literature is not genre, it is a medium. For most countries we have a Fooian science fiction overview topic, not a literature one; in fact I can't find a single other country that has a Fooian sf literature article. See Template:Science fiction or consider French science fiction or Russian science fiction and similar articles _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:36, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Greek Basket League → Greek Basketball League – The new official name of the league in English and internationally is Greek Basketball League, abbreviated as GBL, with the official sponsorship name of the league reaming the same, under the sponsor of Stoiximan, which is used in the league's logo, as part of the sponsorship agreement. The league's official Instagram account, with the new name, https://www.instagram.com/greek_basketball_league and the league's official X account, with the new name, https://x.com/StoiximanGBL - The official announcement on the league's new name from the league's official website (in Greek) https://www.esake.gr/el/694BA2A0 and from the biggest sports media site in Greece, which specifically notes the name being changed from the previous one of Greek Basket League, to the new one of Greek Basketball League (in Greek) https://www.sport24.gr/basket/i-stoiximan-basket-league-vaftistike-stoiximan-gbl-kai-einai-etoimi-gia-to-proto-tzampol.10372829.html and the league's name change announcement on it's Instagram account, https://www.instagram.com/p/C_ZvhvIoBH9/ Bluesangrel (talk) 01:34, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 2, 2024

(Discuss) – Touch Football World Cup → Touch World Cup – The Federation of International Touch which organises the event refers to it as the Touch World Cup and not the Touch Football World Cup. Additionally, the England Touch Association the most recent hosts of the TWC refer to it as the Touch World Cup. See: https://www.internationaltouch.org/events/upcoming/2024/jul/15/world-cup/ and https://www.englandtouch.org.uk/touch-world-cup-2024/ . Even nations that refer to it as Touch Football rather than Touch or Touch Rugby such as Australia refer to the event as the Touch World Cup or the FIT World Cup, rarely the Touch Football World Cup e.g. https://touchfootball.com.au/news/2024/07/22/world-champions-emus-retain-world-cup-in-dominant-performance/. Even when they do refer to it as the Touch Football World Cup, it's clear the official name is the Touch World Cup see for example https://touchfootball.com.au/news/2024/04/30/recapped-touch-football-world-cup-2019/ where although they call it the Touch Football World Cup in the title, they refer to it numerous times as the Touch World Cup throughout the article including as "The 2024 FIT Touch World Cup" at the end. RXFADEZ (talk) 22:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

(Discuss) – Karen Chapman → Karen Chapman (badminton) – With Canadian film director Karen Chapman now having an article, it is no longer clear that the badminton player would be highly meganotable enough to retain WP:PRIMARYTOPIC status. Note that I am proposing a disambiguation page at the base title rather than the film director getting primary status at this time, as she's notable primarily in Canada rather than worldwide, but this may need to be reevaluated in the future as she is likely to accrue more notability going forward than an already-retired badminton player from the 1980s is. (I did also catch two wikilinks that were leading here while intending the Canadian film director, which I've already corrected.) Note as well Karena Chapman, an Australian academic whose name is similar enough that she should perhaps also be listed on the dab page to minimize any potential confusion. Bearcat (talk) 21:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Maclura pomifera → Osage orange – This follows other orange article titles such as Mandarin orange, bitter orange, blood orange, bergamot orange, and ensures consistency with the infobox title of this very page. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 20:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Play It Again → Play It Again (TV series) – Page view statistics: *2 a day for Play It Again (record label) *8 views a day for the TV series *20 a day for Play It Again (EP) *20-30 a day for the Luke Bryan song I should note that the Becky G EP's article is currently unsourced since 2017 and does not appear to be notable. By comparison, the Luke Bryan song has several reasonably well-sourced paragraphs for a song that went to #1 on three major charts and is certified seven times platinum by the RIAA. With those stats in mind, I think it's clear that the song is by a long shot the most famous entity on Wikipedia with the name "Play It Again". Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 19:54, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Play It Again (song) → Play It Again

(Discuss) – DT Virginis → Ross 458 – Nobody calls this star "DT Virginis", all references in the article and other sources elsewhere use the name Ross 458. Therefore, Ross 458 is more common. 21 Andromedae (talk) 19:39, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Ottoman–Habsburg War (1529–1533) → Ottoman–Habsburg War of 1529–1533 - WP:NATURALDIS. Disambiguation is fundamentally necessary to the identification of these wars. They are described as distinct Ottoman–Habsburg wars within a series of wars, not periods of time within a single war (e.g., contrast with History of Canada (1960–1981) as mentioned at WP:NCDURATION). I suspect there are many other generically-named wars (and other subjects) that might benefit from similar treatment. I am also tempted to suggest lowercasing of "War", but that might be a distraction. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Islamic terrorism in Europe → Jihadist terrorism in Europe – The current page title is at odds and inconsistent with the page contents. The first paragraph begins by outlining the topic as terrorism perpetrated by jihadist groups and individuals, which Europol has defined since 2015 as "jihadist terrorism". The definition section then explains the meaning of "jihadism" and the page features the "Jihadism" series template. If the topic is defined in this way by the principal body monitoring this activity, as well as in the definition section and other parts of the page, "jihadist terrorism" would seem to be the correct terminology for the topic. It is also more specific and precise than "Islamist terrorism", of which "jihadist terrorism" is a subset. "Islamic terrorism" is a generally poor term that is essentially shorthand for "Islamic extremist terrorism", but here the far better and more specific term to use is "jihadist terrorism" - hence the usage by Europol and here for practically every entry throughout this list. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 14:19, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2024 Red Sea oil spill → ? – Other oil spills occurred in the Red Sea this year, such as the Rubymar and Chios Lion, making the current title ambiguous. I think that the title should be changed into something more precise, such as August 2024 Red Sea oil spill or Attacks on the MT Delta Sounion. Chomik! (talk?) 13:30, 25 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 14:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Free area of the Republic of China → Taiwan Area – It seems like Taiwan Area is more common and easy to understand. Donttellu8 (talk) 05:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - 2024–25 King Cup → 2024–25 King's Cup (Saudi Arabia) – Current name is wrong. EpicAdventurer (talk) 02:41, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Slash-and-burn → Slash-and-burn agriculture – I think the current title is a bit unclear for those who are unfamiliar with the topic. It's not needed for disambiguation, but I think this would be an improvement nonetheless. PhotographyEdits (talk) 18:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 02:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Mensendieck system → Bess Mensendieck – The article is primarily about the person, her life and work Nikolaj1905 (talk) 19:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 02:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Mingyu → Mingyu (Chinese given name) – Page views for the rapper outpace the views for the name [dailypage views] and any bumps in the given name views correlate with bumps in the rapper's views. The majority of views for the given name article move on to the rapper [35]. None of the Chinese people listed are referred to mononymously as Mingyu, and all English language search results come up with the rapper before anyone else. The other Koreans with the same monomym (민규) have romanized their names differently, so for WP:SMALLDETAILS "Mingyu" only refers to one person, making him the primary topic. Orangesclub (talk) 01:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Mingyu (rapper) → Mingyu

(Discuss) - Frozen II → Frozen 2 – Let me begin by establishing the fact that Frozen 2 is unequivocally the actual and official title of the film, per the official website, official trailer, social media, press releases, and press materials (do a Ctrl+F search for "Frozen 2", then do the same for "Frozen II"). Of course, the official name is not necessarily the COMMONNAME, so let's examine usage in reliable sources. Although "Frozen II" has gained some ground in recent years, ngrams show that "Frozen 2" still maintains a lead over "Frozen II". On Google Trends, the picture is even clearer: "Frozen 2" has an obvious and insurmountable lead. There are 7,270 scholarly results for "Frozen 2" on Google Scholar, and only 1,220 for "Frozen II". Likewise, Google News yields 48,100 results for "Frozen 2" and only 6,730 for "Frozen II" — that's an almost 90% drop! A survey of specific sources shows the same result. From the past two years: [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [45] [46] [47] [48] [49] [50] [51] [52]. A sampling of reviews published when the film was released in 2019: [53] [54] [55] [56] [57] [58] [59] [60] [61] [62] [63] [64] [65] [66] [67] [68] [69] [70] [71] [72] [73] [74] [75].
Now that the COMMONNAME argument has been addressed, there are several other reasons "Frozen 2" is a more appropriate title than "Frozen II" even if "Frozen II" is the COMMONNAME, and especially if both are deemed equally common (in which case, the official name should naturally serve as tiebreaker). Firstly, "Frozen 2" is more recognizable to the general reader than "Frozen II". As seen with the Google Trends analysis, the natural instinct of readers is clearly to type "Frozen 2" into the search bar rather than "Frozen II", which is logical, considering Arabic numerals are more common in titles of works and beyond. The Frozen 2 redirect has received half as many lifetime views as the target page! When readers watch the film on Disney+, it's "Frozen 2". When they listen to the soundtrack on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Music, it's "Frozen 2". The documentary is called Into the Unknown: Making Frozen 2; the podcast is called Inside Frozen 2. Now, let me play devil's advocate: perhaps the distinction between "2" and "II" is so minor that the impact on recognizability is negligible; if so, wouldn't it make sense to go with the actual title since there is no harm in doing so?
Secondly, as established earlier, Frozen II is not the actual title and is merely a stylistic device used in marketing materials. Per MOS:TITLE#Typographic effects and MOS:TMRULES, article titles should not normally emulate logo or marketing stylizations. For example, we use Fantastic Four (2015 film) and not Fant4stic; Mission: Impossible 2 and not M:I-2; and WALL-E and not WALL·E. This extends beyond film titles: see Lego (not LEGO), Eminem (not EMINƎM), Toys "R" Us (not Toys Я Us), Pink (singer) (not P!nk), AOL (not Aol.), etc. I acknowledge that the film's title card also uses "Frozen II", but there are many films whose onscreen title differs from its actual title: Dune (2021 film), Fast & Furious 6, Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery, Iron Man 3, etc. Thirdly, with a third and fourth film recently being announced, sources are already widely using "Frozen 3" and "Frozen 4": [76] [77] [78] [79] [80] [81] [82] [83] [84]. (There are dozens more, but I don't want to spam this page any further.) Our draft pages are currently (and correctly) located at Draft:Frozen 3 and Draft:Frozen 4; we should be WP:CONSISTENT in our approach to dealing with these logo stylizations.
I recognize that this is a long read, but I am anticipating an uphill battle and felt it was important to demonstrate a strong rationale. InfiniteNexus (talk) 01:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Yvy Marãeʼỹ → Yvy Marãe'ỹ – All sources use an apostrophe to indicate the glottal stop in the name (though sometimes the curly apostrophe, which is not accepted by Wikipedia's Manual of Style). I'd like to add that according to Estigarribia, author of the major Guarani grammar in English, apostrophe should be used to indicate the glottal stop. The current character <ʼ> is wrong and should be replace by <'>. RodRabelo7 (talk) 01:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 1, 2024

(Discuss) – Names of the days of the week → Days of the week – The title is more concise. There is no ambiguity when it comes to what this article is about. I didn't want to move it myself since I want to get community input on this. There doesn't seem be a move discussion on the talk page, so I thought it would be appropriate to launch a discussion. Interstellarity (talk) 22:59, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – August 2024 Kursk Oblast incursion → Ukrainian invasion of Russia – Option B from section #Attempting to gain consensus seems to be a viable arternative --Altenmann >talk 21:41, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Ivan Turchin → John B. Turchin – The predominance of the higher-quality works refer to Turchin as either John B. Turchin or John Basil Turchin. The references in this article mostly refer to him as John B. Turchin or John Basil Turchin, and both Generals in Blue and Civil War High Commands refer to him first as John Basil Turchin, with his Russian name in parantheses. I came across this as both the book I am currently reading (Welcher's The Union Army: Organization and Operations) and the book before that (Cozzens' The Shipwreck of Their Hopes) use the form John B. Turchin. I do not have strong feelings between John Basil Turchin or John B. Turchin, but I believe the current title is inferior to either of these two options. Hog Farm _Talk 20:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - One-wall handball → Wallball – Wallball is the name now used by most of the major organisations involved in governing the sport in countries across the globe, such as GAA Handball, UK Wallball, the United States Handball Association etc - they have moved away from referring to the game as 'one-wall handball', instead using the name 'Wallball' for the sport. N.B. the United States Handball Association (USHA) uses both names albeit they are used for two different codes of American handball - they use the name 'One-wall handball' to describe the code played with the smaller, harder rubber ball normally used in the four-wall code of American handball and the name 'Wallball' to refer to the game played with the bigger, softer rubber ball, very similar to a racquetball, that this article talks about. The name 'Wallball' was also introduced by the organisations above, to differentiate itself from the game of handball currently played in the Olympics, that is similar to the sport of soccer, but played with one's hands. Indeed a few weeks ago, the World Wallball Championships took place in Limerick, Ireland, with 13 countries taking part, as can be seen in the name of the event itself, being 'World Wallball Championships' rather than 'World One-wall Handball Championships', as it used to be called. Rhubarb500 (talk) 18:25, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Wallball → Wallball (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) – Ultra-high-temperature processing → Ultra-pasteurization – Common name by a wide margin, per Google Ngrams. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:07, 15 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:10, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 18:11, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Republican in Name Only → Republican in name only – Use sentence case. This term is not a proper name, not a title, not a trademark, nor any other reason to be in title case. Dicklyon (talk) 15:54, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Turkmenistani manat → Turkmen manat – The demonym of Turkmenistan is widely considered to be "Turkmen", and "Turkmenistani" is not widely used. Therefore it should be "Turkmen manat". Hlsci (talk) 15:51, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Hunt family (disambiguation) → Hunt family – This nomination is a tangential follow-up to yesterday's The Hunts → The Hunts (book) at Talk:The Hunts#Requested move 31 August 2024. It does not seem intuitive that the Hungarian clan from 800 years ago, which is not called "Hunt", but "Hont" in Hungarian Wikipedia, should be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC in English Wikipedia, especially taking into account that the prominent Hunt family (Texas) dominates most searches. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 15:47, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2024 Varzaqan helicopter crash → Varzaqan helicopter crash – If there was no helicopter crash around Varzaqan before, I do not see any reason why should 2024 be specific in the article title. Cmsth11126a02 (talk) 15:15, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Beatrice of Bavaria → Beatrix, Queen of Sweden – The given name is per WP:COMMONNAME: * The spelling "Beatrice" is very seldom used for her in the literature. I can find a pair of 19th century books which call her Beatrice,[85][86] a short entry in Women in World History (1999) and a genealogy chart in some Strindberg's work[87]. The rest of the literature calls her "Beatrix".(e.g. search for Beatrix+Erik+1359+Magnus and its variations) * The most common territorial designation is "of Brandenburg", by an overwhelming margin compared to other options. It is used for example in various Scandinavian encyclopedias[88][89][90]. However, the name Beatrix of Brandenburg is already taken. (There's no primary topic here, and that title should actually be replaced with a dab page.) * Few sources disambiguate her with the house name Wittelsbach,[91], and a couple of German sources disambiguate her as Beatrix von Bayern. In other sources I have not seen Bavaria/Bayern being used for her. Some encyclopedias call her Beatrix without any such designation, and indicate that she is a queen in the subtitle.[92].[93] Since both "Beatrix of Wittelsbach" and "Beatrix of Bavaria" are rare in the literature (and likely to only hinder recognizability), I suggest that we just use a descriptive phrase "Queen of Sweden". — Jähmefyysikko (talk) 14:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2024 Israeli military operation in the northern West Bank → 2024 Israeli military operation in the West Bank – While the invasion of the West Bank was initially mainly in the North, it is has now spread to the entirety of the region. As @The Great Mule of Eupatoria map shows, and as various sources are beginning to report (https://www.timesofisrael.com/3-killed-in-southern-west-bank-shooting-attack-idf-pursuing-gunmen/) (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/01/world/middleeast/israel-west-bank-police.html) the incursion is now also in Hebron in the south. These sources connect the latest attack to the wider invasion of the West Bank. Genabab (talk) 13:27, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Ukrainian science fiction and fantasy → Ukrainian speculative fiction – This is alraedy the main cat for this; this is the meaning of uk:Фантастика України, fantastika means speculative fiction. This is already obvious from the current lead: "Science fiction, fantasy and horror are literary subgenres of speculative fiction (a.k.a. "Fantastyka")"... which however is not ideal, as those three genras do not for example include alternate history which is obviously part of fantastyka (Фантастика) and some other genras. See also similar moves for some other Eastern European countries and rationales listed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science Fiction. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:19, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Max Kilman → Maximilian Kilman – He seems to be using "Maximilian Kilman" more than "Max Kilman" these days. Both his player profile on the West Ham website and his player profile on the Premier League website say "Maximilian". When he signed for West Ham, they announced him as "Maximilian" and in this video released by Sky Sports he specifically says he prefers "Maximilian" (timestamp 1:10:24). CybJubal (talk) 10:59, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – List of Israeli massacres in Gaza 2023–2024 → Israeli massacres during the Israel–Hamas war – Seems like a more put-together title? The introductory text appears to imply documentation extending only within the temporal bounds of the current conflict. Rebestalic^{[leave a message....]} 10:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Czech science fiction and fantasy → Czech speculative fiction – Analogical to RMs I just proposed at Russian science fiction and fantasy and Polish science fiction and fantasy, the correct name for this article is speculative fiction (aka cs:fantastika), not "science fiction and fantasy". Speculative fiction, or fantastika, covers more than just sf and fantasy (as in horror, alternate history, etc.) and this article should reflect that use. One day, a relevant article will be written on cz wiki, at it will ot be about Czech scence fiction and fantasy, but about Česká fantastika (see also cs:Fantastika#Česká_fantastika), which could be split off and interwikid here after the move, if anyone knows Czech better than me (it has no references...). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:51, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Science fiction and fantasy in Poland → Polish speculative fiction – See my comments at Talk:Russian_science_fiction_and_fantasy#Requested_move_1_September_2024 and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Science_Fiction#I_will_be_proposing_renaming_Fooian_science_fiction_and_fantasy_articles_into_Fooian_speculative_fiction, but TL;DR this article is about Polish 'fantastyka', and fantastyka is speculative fiction. It does not make much sense to arbitrary group sf and fantasy and exclude genres like horror, alternative history, superhero fiction, etc. PS. Side-note - this article also has a bad interwiki, see pl:Dyskusja_wikiprojektu:Fantastyka#Brakuje_ważnego_hasła:_fantastyka_w_Polsce (Polish version of speculative fiction in Poland, i.e. fantastyka w Polsce, needs to be written, right now this article is connected to Polish article on science fiction in Poland). After move, this article can become the parent article for Category:Polish speculative fiction. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:53, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Russian science fiction and fantasy → Russian speculative fiction – See above, but in short: sf+fantasy<fantastika=Speculative fiction. Speculative fiction also includes horror - which is discussed in this very article, but it is not in the title. Rather then adding horror to the name (as well as other genras, such as steampunk or superhero fiction) renaming this to Russian speculative fiction and making it the main article for Category:Russian speculative fiction would be advisable. Note that separate articles on Russian science fiction and Russian fantasy could be created, but arbitrary merging sf+fantasy and excluding horror is just weird; the interwiki for this article on ru is ru:Советская фантастика which is more than just sf+fantasy (i.e. it also includes horror, etc.). I will be proposing similar renames for other articles like Science fiction and fantasy in Poland (I expect only a few Slavic articles are affected, as people creating them might not have been familiar with the term speculative fiction) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:49, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Mass Transit incident (professional wrestling) → Mass Transit incident – Unnecessary disambiguation. There is currently a dabpage at Mass transit incident which should be deleted; none of those things are commonly known as "mass transit incidents" in any reliable sources. 162 etc. (talk) 18:55, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:46, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Armand Duplantis → Mondo Duplantis – He uses his nickname instead of his full name on all the major social media sites and Mondo Duplantis seems very common in news coverage as well. The combination of these two factors prompted me to start a discussion on how to name the article. Killuminator (talk) 12:49, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:42, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Caritas Institute of Higher Education → Saint Francis University (Hong Kong) – The institute had acquired university title and renamed "Saint Francis University" under approval from the Hong Kong government on 9 January 2024 (more than 7 months ago). The institute uses the new name across its website and communication materials. Media, including South China Morning Post (1, 2) and The Standard, adopted the new name in their articles. The Hong Kong government Security Bureau also uses the new name. Cfls (talk) 07:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:41, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Estimates of sexual violence → Sexual violence prevalence estimates – Easier to find when searching in search box for "sexual violence". Also includes "prevalence" in title. HudecEmil (talk) 07:39, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Life of Charles Townshend (1861-1914) → Early life and career of Charles Townshend (British Army officer) – or just delete these or remerge them back into Charles Townshend (British Army officer). The "1861-1914" timespan in the title of the first of these articles looks like it is a lifespan range, perhaps to identify which Charles Townshend is being discussed, but that's not what it is. These two articles are about the same Charles Townshend who is covered in the article entitled Charles Townshend (British Army officer). Townshend lived another 10 years after 1914 and had further major events in his career until retiring in 1920. The timespan actually indicates the years of Townshend's life that are covered by a content fork subarticle that was created at 01:12, 15 May 2023 (UTC) by A.S. Brown ~~(an indef-blocked sockpuppet acccount)~~, saying "Start article to deal with the length problems on the main article". There was also apparently another article similarly created at Life of Charles Townshend (1914-1924) at 01:14, 15 May 2023 (UTC) by A.S. Brown to cover the remaining decade of Townshend's life, and Tbhotch then moved that one to Life of Charles Townshend (British Army officer) at 07:58, 18 September 2023 (UTC), saying "Matched main". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:40, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:39, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Life of Charles Townshend (British Army officer) → Later life of Charles Townshend (British Army officer)

(Discuss) – TV Osaka → Television Osaka – Official company name VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 08:30, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 16:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Kick a Goal → Shooting Stars – https://tv.apple.com/us/show/shooting-stars/umc.cmc.5nuhfymikhkppkz4hbjkhutqm 222.108.25.249 (talk) 07:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 16:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:30, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Michelle Smith → Michelle Smith (swimmer) – There are nine women and one man listed upon the Michelle Smith (disambiguation) page, with no strong indication that the Olympian from 28 years ago has retained historical renown sufficient to dwarf the combined notability of the remaining eight women. As an alternative option, I would support retaining Michelle Smith as primary among the women named "Michelle", but moving Michelle Smith (disambiguation) → Michele Smith. Among the eight women who have English Wikipedia articles, five are named "Michelle" and three are named "Michele", thus dropping the parenthetical qualifier "(disambiguation)" still appears to be relatively evenhanded and users researching the swimmer would not lose their ability to access her entry directly [the two WP:DABMENTIONS are the entry for co-author of Michelle Remembers and the redirect for male sportsman Michele Smith (cyclist)]. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 16:51, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Michelle Smith (disambiguation) → Michelle Smith

(Discuss) – Johannes Enschedé (1708-1780) → Johannes Enschedé (printer, born 1708) – This printer was the first in a line of four roughly similar people named Johannes Enschedé. He ran a prominent similarly named company called Joh. Enschedé. Wikipedia doesn't ordinarily use lifespan ranges for disambiguation of people (especially with a hyphen). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 01:13, 24 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Kamala Harris's tenure as Attorney General of California → Kamala Harris as Attorney General of California – Per WP:CONCISE and this discussion. estar8806 (talk) ★ 04:16, 24 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:18, 1 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Sloboda → Sloboda (settlement) – Everything I said three months ago in #Requested move 22 May 2024 still holds, we just had so little interest. In summary, there is no primary topic here. I believe I addressed the sole complaint. Here's hoping we'll get more people to read this now. In the meantime, the usage statistics continue to show the same picture of a lack of a primary topic, the topics most commonly navigated to are consistently not about the settlement meaning.
Clickstreams from the last three months

From meta:Research:Wikipedia clickstream: :clickstream-enwiki-2024-05.tsv: :* Sloboda Sloboda_Ukraine link 28 :* Sloboda Sloboda_(disambiguation) link 12 :* Sloboda Boyar link 12 :* total: 52 to 3 identified destinations :clickstream-enwiki-2024-06.tsv: :* Sloboda Sloboda_Ukraine link 32 :* Sloboda Sloboda_(disambiguation) link 12 :* Sloboda Boyar link 12 :* total: 56 to 3 identified destinations :clickstream-enwiki-2024-07.tsv: :* Sloboda Sloboda_(disambiguation) link 17 :* Sloboda Sloboda_Ukraine link 16 :* Sloboda Boyar link 13 :* total: 46 to 3 identified destinations Even if we're unsure, I say we should move it and then do the same measurements again later, and see if reader behavior indicates we need to keep or revert. -- Joy (talk) 08:14, 24 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:10, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- Sloboda (disambiguation) → Sloboda

(Discuss) – Brazilian investigation into Elon Musk → Blocking of Twitter in Brazil – The main subject of this article is the blocking of Twitter/X in Brazil, according to the court order issued by Justice Alexandre de Moraes on August 30. Even though the investigation into Elon Musk began in April 2024, it is the blocking of the website that received widespread coverage from international media. Most sources cited were written on the decision to block the website, which is also what most paragraphs in the article discuss.Therefore, the main topic of this article is the blocking of Twitter/X in Brazil, and should be titled as such per WP:PRECISION. Relevant information on the investigation into Musk that led to the blocking can be added to the background section. Since the Wikipedia article on X still calls it Twitter, the title for this article should do the same for consistency. Alex98 (talk) 02:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Daniel McClellan → Dan McClellan (biblical scholar) - https://www.tpr.org/news/2024-01-28/biblical-scholar-dan-mcclellan-fights-misinformation-about-the-bible-on-social-media, https://www.tiktok.com/@maklelan, and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPIr68f27VQ refer to the biblical scholar as "Dan McClellan." IMO, the article title calling him "Daniel McClellan" is a little overly-formal. PiratePablo (talk) 00:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Dan McClellan → Dan McClellan (baseball)

(Discuss) – 1966 Palomares B-52 crash → 1966 Palomares mid-air collision – Two aircraft have been involved in the collision. "B-52 crash" implies that only one aircraft has been involved. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 00:08, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 31, 2024

(Discuss) – Will Wood (musician) → Will Wood – WP:PTOPIC. Of every name listed at William Wood, a majority have amassed under one thousand pageviews this year. Below are some statistics about names on the page: * Will Wood (musician) - The most viewed page from the William Wood disambiguation with 120k this year. This is consistent to 164k from last year and 150k the year before. * Merlyn Wood - The second-most viewed page with 15k from this year. Merlyn doesn't refer to himself as Will Wood, so the name is not in common usage (1:8 with the musician). * William P. Wood - The third-most viewed page with 8k from this year. 6k of those views are from an abrupt spike in late-July, which is unnatural for a 19th century politician (1:15 with the musician). * USS William M. Wood (DD-715) - The fourth-most viewed page with 2k from this year. 1:60 with the musician. * Will Wood (footballer) - The only other name on the page that uses Will over William. 1:70 with the musician. Noting all of this, the musician is by far the most common usage of the name Will Wood. Koopastar (talk) 23:56, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Universal Studios, Inc. → Universal Studios – Universal Studios currently redirects here, the article about the parent company. "Universal Studios" can also be used as a shorthand/nickname for Universal Pictures, the film studio, or the various theme parks named "Universal Studios", which we cover under Universal Destinations & Experiences. Given none of the Universal Studios theme parks are simply called "Universal Studios" (unlike Disneyland, the original park is called Universal Studios Hollywood), and neither the theme park company nor the film studio is called "Universal Studios", the parent company is the only subject that is not a partial title match and can be regarded as the primary topic, distinguished by WP:SMALLDETAILS (a hatnote can address any confusion). If editors disagree and believe this article is not the primary topic, then this redirect should point to Universal Pictures, Universal Destinations & Experiences, or Universal Studios Hollywood, or be converted into a disambiguation page (I would support this as my second choice). It should not remain as it is because this is currently an unnecessary disambiguation. https://www.universalstudios.com/ currently points to the parent company as well. InfiniteNexus (talk) 23:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Elizabeth Charlotte, Madame Palatine → Elizabeth Charlotte, Duchess of Orleans – There is no historical or modern basis for this figure to bear the title of "Madame Palatine". As the wife of the King's eldest brother, yes, she indeed was known as "Madame"; but (1) this was not an actual title, merely a form of address, and (2) it was never combined with the word "Palatine". Her official title was Duchess of Orleans. As such, I request that this article be renamed to Elizabeth Charlotte, Duchess of Orelans. Her birth title is also possible - but there another Elizabeth Charlotte of the Palatinate, so Duchess of Orleans would be more descriptive. Regardless, either style would be a huge improvement over the ahistorical and crudely made-up "Madame Palatine". FiveBy21 (talk) 23:09, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Contaminated blood scandal in the United Kingdom → Infected blood scandal in the United Kingdom – All official documents and the current inquiry tend to use "infected blood" over "contaminated blood". (Also appears to be the more common phrase per ngrams, although I know this could be listing a lot of uses of the term a) outside of the UK and/or b) unrelated to this scandal.) GnocchiFan (talk) 22:54, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Template:Infobox Chinese/Japanese → Template:Infobox Japanese – Not sure why this is a subpage of {{Infobox Chinese}}. Neither template seems to have a dependency on or transclusion in the other, and the template name should reflect that. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:17, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – US bombing of Cambodia → Bombing of Cambodia – The proposed target name already redirects to this disambiguation page, which lists only two topics. We generally shouldn't have shorter ambiguous names redirecting to longer ones that are less ambiguous. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:39, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Maritza Martin → Murder of Maritza Martin – Maritza is only notable for her murder, so therefore, under WP:BLP1E, this article should focus on her murder, with its name reflecting such. ZionniThePeruser (talk) 18:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Hiroshima Telecasting → Hiroshima Television – Current station name VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 15:32, 24 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 18:33, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – TVN (Panamanian TV network) → Televisora Nacional – Official channel name VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 15:48, 24 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 18:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Ferrante Gonzaga (1544-1586) → Ferrante Gonzaga, Marquess of Castiglione – or Ferrante Gonzaga (Marquess of Castiglione). For better alignment with WP:NCPDAB. Wikipedia doesn't ordinarily use lifespan ranges (especially with hyphens in them) for disambiguation of people. There are three candidates for "Ferrante Gonzaga", including a Count of Guastalla at the base name who gets 57% of the pageviews and Ferrante Vincenzo Gonzaga, an Italian World War II general. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Edward Fitzgerald (1529-90) → Edward Fitzgerald (Great Grimsby and Lichfield MP) – For better alignment with WP:NCPDAB. Wikipedia does not ordinarily use lifespan ranges (especially with hyphens in them) for disambiguation of people. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:58, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Joanna of Austria (1573-1630) → Joanna of Austria (Kingdom of Naples) – or Joanna of Austria (daughter of John) or Joanna of Austria (daughter of John of Austria). For better alignment with WP:NCPDAB. Wikipedia does not ordinarily use lifespan ranges (especially with hyphens in them) for disambiguation of people. See Joanna of Austria for a list of the three people known by this name. It appears there is an error in the opening paragraph, since the list of viceroys of Naples links to John Joseph of Austria, not to John of Austria. It seems that this woman was the daughter of John of Austria, who was not a viceroy of Naples. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:42, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Marinid Sultanate → Marinid dynasty – By far the most common name, per books n-grams. Dicklyon (talk) 16:34, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Jasper Fire → 2000 Jasper Fire – To disambiguate from 2024 Jasper wildfire 99.196.129.19 (talk) 15:23, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Economic impact of illegal immigrants in the United States → Economic impact of illegal immigration to the United States – I request this move so that the title is consistent with the parent topic article, Illegal immigration to the United States, whose title refers to the action of immigration rather than immigrants as people. Arbor to SJ (talk) 15:12, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – SpaceX Starship flight tests → List of Starship second stage flight tests – Please do not complete until discussion at Regarding the transition to orbital and future operations is complete. Following said deletion of the Integrated flight tests (2023–) section: * WP:CONSISTENT: "List of" Consistent with List of Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy launches. * WP:CONCISE and WP:CONSISTENT: Remove "SpaceX". Consistent with List of Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy launches * WP:PRECISE: "second stage" Only second stage tests will be included (Starhopper, I know, close enough). Narnianknight (talk) 14:26, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – The Hunts → The Hunts (book) – Little-known book possibly better known by its Spanish title, Las Cacerias, as compared to other things which might be known as "The Hunts", incl. things at The Hunt and things at Hunt family (disambiguation) Hyperbolick (talk) 11:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – United Nations drug control conventions → International drug control conventions – Extensive discussion over months, results in the fact that (1) indeed "UN drug control conventions" and "International drug control conventions" are used interchangeably, but (2) the former is legally incorrect, (3) the later is used officially, while the former is not; (4) the latter is the normal name structure for Wikipedia articles in other firlds of international law (e.g., "International humanitarian law", "International human rights law", "International human rights instruments", "International environmental agreement"). See the Talk for comprehensive discussion Teluobir (talk) 09:07, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Memorial Drive Park → The Drive Adelaide – Post-redevelopment, with the venue being more commonly used for non-tennis functions and events, the common name adopted by the venue’s management is The Drive Adelaide. Rovingrobert (talk) 08:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Symphony station (Sound Transit) → Symphony Station (Sound Transit) – "Symphony Station" is the common and official of the station. Capital-S "Station" as a proper noun is the WP:COMMONNAME used by reliable sources: *Seattle Times 1, 2, 3 :*"University Street Station" in 1990 *Everett Herald *KING 5 *KIRO 7 *Fox 13 It's also the WP:OFFICIALNAME used by Sound Transit: *https://www.soundtransit.org/st_sharepoint/download/sites/PRDA/ActiveDocuments/Motion%20M2021-61.pdf :It is hereby moved by the Board of the Central Puget Sound Regional Transit Authority that University Street Station is renamed Symphony Station in coordination with the East Link Extension opening. *https://www.soundtransit.org/ride-with-us/service-alerts/university-street-station-now-symphony-station *https://www.soundtransit.org/get-to-know-us/news-events/news-releases/new-name-coming-one-downtown-seattles-light-rail-stations *https://www.soundtransit.org/blog/platform/what-to-expect-when-youre-expecting-lynnwood-link Wikipedia:Naming conventions (US stations) says that "station articles should be titled by their WP:COMMONNAME, followed by 'station' if not already part of the name. In cases where the word 'Station' is part of the proper name, it should be capitalized." PK-WIKI (talk) 06:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Typhoons in Taiwan → Typhoons in the Taiwan – Hello not long so move the list the name is Typhoons in Taiwan Not a List. Use name: Typhoons in the Taiwan 🌀TyphoonAmpil🌀 (💬 - Typhoon) 06:14, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Eric XI of Sweden → Erik Eriksson (king) – The WP:COMMONNAME for this king is "Erik Eriksson". * Ngram shows that Erik Eriksson has been more common in the literature since 1910 or so. However, "Erik Eriksson" is also a common name for other people, so the full curve for "Erik Eriksson" cannot be attributed to the king. The decline in the use of "Eric XI" is more clear. * Reliable sources usually use the name Erik Eriksson. See e.g. GBooks search for Erik+1222+1250. Typical example is the Cambridge History of Scandinavia. Britannica does not have a dedicated page for him, but the "Learn more page" is titled Erik Eriksson. *There are a lot of other Erik Erikssons (dab page), and the king is not the primary topic. For disambiguation, I suggest the parenthetical disambiguation, which would be a concise choice. I don't believe our hands are tied very strongly by WP:NCROY here since its applicability to medieval Sweden is somewhat dubious. These patronymic names are not of the "common stock", and Sweden was not a hereditary monarchy at the time. — Jähmefyysikko (talk) 04:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Overlake School → The Overlake School – The school is called The Overlake School. All of the language on the school's official website refers to it as such. It was recently changed by another user who suggested that "The" should not be used in the names of schools. I couldn't find any documentation of that fact in the Wikipedia Article Titles guidance, and plus -- the name of the school is THE Overlake School. I went to this school and everybody - students, faculty, administrators, Seattle Times articles, the school's website itself - refers to it as such. The Beatles? The Walker School? I don't see why an arbitrary rule should require that we name an article after a name that nobody uses.Fantasyfootball420 (talk) 04:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Our Song → Our Song (disambiguation) – Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 21:00, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 01:46, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Our Song (Taylor Swift song) → Our Song

(Discuss) – Neuromorphic engineering → Neuromorphic computing – WP:COMMONNAME. The current article title is "Neuromorphic engineering" but the opening sentence talks about "neuromorphic computing". An Ngram comparison confirms that "neuromorphic computing" is a much more commonly used term. The suggested target has redirected to this article since it was created in 2011. The word "computing" is used three times in the first two paragraphs, while "engineering" isn't mentioned until the third paragraph. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:19, 24 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 01:42, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Wooden architecture of Russia → Russian wooden architecture – the page is a translation of ru:Русское деревянное зодчество, which is "Russian wooden arcitecture. The article is about the Russian historical tradition ow wooden architecture and the subject is not geographically limited. If you look eg. into ru:Категория:Русские деревянные церкви there wooden churches of Russian style elsewhere --Altenmann >talk 01:03, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Shelter → Shelter (disambiguation) – This is the clear primary topic of the term shelter. Not sure why the dab page is formatted as if it is. Interstellarity (talk) 00:39, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Shelter (building) → Shelter

August 30, 2024

(Discuss) – Jan Działyński (1590-1648) → Jan Działyński (Polish noble, born 1590) – For WP:NCPDAB and hyphenated date range fix. See Jan Działyński for others. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 23:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Fe!n → Fein (song) – Special characters used for decorative purposes, such as an exclamation mark in the middle of a song name, should not be included in article titles. JE98 (talk) 23:32, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Autobiographical comics → List of autobiographical comics – Article is more a list of, than a description of, autobiographical comics. (Has been marked for cleanup since 2010.) RJFJR (talk) 22:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Dodola and Perperuna → Rainmaking (Southeast Europe) – see the discussion above. We also have the generic Rainmaking (ritual) page (techical nomination; no vote) --Altenmann >talk 20:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 21:16, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Sōma Yoshitane (1558-1635) → Sōma Yoshitane (daimyo, born 1548) – For closer alignment with WP:NCPDAB, particularly avoiding hyphenated lifespan ranges. I believe the birth year of this Sōma Yoshitane is incorrect in the current title, as it does not match the article content and does not match what I find in (hopefully non-Wikipedia-derived) search results. Another Honda Yasushige is at Honda Yasushige (Zeze) and is thus disambiguated differently, but this Honda Yasushige overlapped between both the Sengoku and Edo periods and also overlapped between Okazaki han and Shiroi han and also overlapped between the Mikawa province and Kantō region, so I am just resorting to the birth year. The article about him refers to him as a samurai, but not as a daimyo, but the disambiguation page at Honda Yasushige refers to him as a daimyo, so I don't know which term is best to use. See also the similar recent two-article RM at Talk:Satake Yoshimasa (daimyo, born 1728). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 21:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Honda Yasushige (1554-1611) → Honda Yasushige (daimyo, born 1554)

(Discuss) – The People (1891) → The People (1891–2008) – In my limited experience, a single year in the title of an article about a publication would mean either that the publication has continued to exist since that year (which is not the case here) or that the publication existed only briefly within a single year (also not the case here). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Panduvasdeva of Tambapanni → Panduvasdeva – There is no other monarch named Panduvasdeva with an article on Wikipedia. Векочел (talk) 20:33, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Ben Grimm → Thing (comics) – Similar to what the situation of Mr. Fantastic, "Thing" was the original name of the article and where the article was located for years. User:Lowellian gave the best reasons on why it should be change. And the same reasoning that was applied for Mr. Fantastic should be apply here. His examples: * his teammates: Invisible Woman, not "Susan Storm"; Human Torch, not "Johnny Storm"; Thing is currently at "Ben Grimm", but that was only moved there together with that aforementioned 2021 move which again, should have been closed as no consensus * with his enemies: Doctor Doom, not "Victor von Doom"; Mole Man, not "Harvey Rupert Elder"; Puppet Master (Marvel Comics), not "Phillip Masters"; Galactus, not "Galan" * with the majority of Marvel superhero articles: Iron Man, not "Tony Stark"; Captain America, not "Steve Rogers"; Spider-Man, not "Peter Parker" * with the majority of superhero articles, even those outside Marvel: Superman, not "Clark Kent"; Batman, not "Bruce Wayne"; Wonder Woman, not "Diana Prince"; Spawn (character), not "Al Simmons" Ziggy Coltrane (talk) 19:06, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Illinois River (Oklahoma) → Illinois River (Arkansas–Oklahoma) – Per WP:PRECISE, WP:PLACEDAB and WP:NCRIVER. About half of this river is in one state and half in the other (per this not so great map) so I think it makes sense to inclue both states in the parentheses. (Note that the 2015 RM above was to trade one state name for the other, where this is meant to be more holistic.) Looking at other examples like Sabine River (Texas–Louisiana), White River (Arkansas–Missouri), and Iroquois River (Indiana-Illinois) the practice seems to be to order the states by the order of the river goes through them which I followed. Being precise seems especially important here to avoid confusion with the state of Illinois. RevelationDirect (talk) 18:40, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Lifted condensation level → Lifting condensation level – Lifting condensation level is almost ubiquitously the WP:COMMONNAME. Amongst others, the NOAA, articles in the Journal of Atmospheric Science, Oxford Reference and (from what I can tell) all the sources cited use lifting. Whilst not of the highest quality, Google Ngrams shows a clear preference for lifting as well. – Isochrone (talk) 17:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – The People (disambiguation) → The People – There doesn't seem to be a primary topic for this phrase. The current target of The People is The Sunday People; compared to all the other potential targets listed on The People (disambiguation), the current setup seems to be unhelpful/unlikely. Steel1943 (talk) 17:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Dallas Hilton → Hotel Indigo Dallas Downtown – Per WP:NAMECHANGES and WP:COMMONNAME but leaving redirect. While this hotel has a close association with Conrad Hilton, it has operated as a Hotel Indigo since 2006 (secondary source) and the proposed name reflects actual usage (primary source). I don't think we should automatically rename articles for every corporate rebranding but here it's an accuracy issue since Indigo is part of the Intercontinental Hotels Group, a direct Hilton competitor. RevelationDirect (talk) 16:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Kach (political party) → Kach – This article is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. PhotographyEdits (talk) 14:00, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 15:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Kach → Kach (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) - 2024 ICC Cricket World Cup Challenge League Play-off → 2024 Cricket World Cup Challenge League Play-off – the term "ICC" should be removed for consistency with the parent article which is just 2027 Cricket World Cup. ~~Also, no need for the hosts to be mentioned in the titles of Challenge League events.~~ Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 14:44, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 15:29, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- 2024–2026 ICC Cricket World Cup League 2 → 2024–2026 Cricket World Cup League 2
- 2024–2026 ICC Cricket World Cup Challenge League → 2024–2026 Cricket World Cup Challenge League

(Discuss) - Stanisław Potocki (1659-1683) → Stanisław Potocki (Polish noble, died 1683) – For alignment with WP:NCPDAB, especially to remove the lifespan ranges (especially the one using a hyphen). These people have more specific titles (szlachcic, voivode, etc.), but I think they are not used in English, so I am just suggesting "Polish noble" for all of them. For one of these, we have the birth year, but for the others we do not, so it may be best to consistently use the death year for all of them. Note that Stanisław Potocki (1734–1802) redirects to Józef Potocki (1734/35–1802). This seems to be an artefact of a previous error; see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 13#Stanisław Potocki (1734–1802). Note that there is also a non-disambiguated Józef Potocki. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 15:02, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Okinawa (disambiguation) → Okinawa – Okinawa → Okinawa (disambiguation) Sources immensely vary on what Okinawa refers to without qualification, with the island, the islands, and the prefecture all commonly being referenced by that name; I cannot find a clear primary topic at all here. Despite this, Okinawa is currently just a redirect to the prefecture, with the dab hatnoted. Dictionary definitions are unhelpful, variously describing it as "an island" or "islands", which itself is ambiguous between the island chain and the prefecture. "Okinawa Island" and "Okinawa Prefecture" return similar amounts (18,000 and 19,000) of results on Google Scholar, but "on Okinawa" is much less used than "in Okinawa". Page view analysis shows that Okinawa Prefecture is less viewed than Okinawa Island, but not enough that the island would be a primary topic. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 14:45, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Waipareira → Waipareira (New Zealand electorate) – This page should be a DAB due to the Waipareira block. Another potential article with the name is the Waipareira Trust Traumnovelle (talk) 03:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 14:09, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Leopold of Limburg Stirum (1681-1726) → Leopold, Count of Limburg Stirum (born 1681) – To follow WP:NCPDAB, avoiding the use of a lifespan range (with an improper use of a hyphen). The title should be consistent with that of Leopold Karel, Count of Limburg Stirum (born 1758). A two-entry set index article can be found at Leopold of Limburg Stirum. The set index article hints that there might also be other people who could be considered a "Leopold of Limburg Stirum". It is not clear to me whether "Karel" really belongs in the other article title. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 13:56, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Cornelis de Graeff (1650-1678) → Cornelis de Graeff (Dutch noble, born 1650) – A more conventional WP:NCPDAB title. Wikipedia does not ordinarily use lifespan ranges (especially with hyphens) for disambiguation of people. See also Cornelis de Graeff and Cornelis de Graeff II. (note the dot). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 13:31, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Committee for a Workers' International (1974) → Committee for a Workers' International – The disambiguator (1974) was added to the article name several years ago to distinguish it from Committee for a Workers' International (2019). With the AFD decision to delete that article and merge it into this one the disambiguator is no longer necessary as there is only one article. Wellington Bay (talk) 13:27, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Ultimate (sport) → Ultimate Frisbee – On the basis of WP:NATDAB + WP:COMMONNAME. "Ultimate Frisbee" may be less official, but it's much more recognizable, making for a better article title. The sport can be called just "Ultimate" beyond the first paragraph, following common Wikipedia practice. Jruderman (talk) 18:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:44, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 08:48, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Frederica of Württemberg (1699-1781) → Duchess Frederica of Württemberg (abbess) – or Duchess Frederica of Württemberg (born 1699). The naming should be consistent with that of the other Duchess Frederica of Württemberg; both of them were duchesses. Wikipedia doesn't ordinarily disambiguate people using lifespan ranges (especially hyphenated ones). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 08:43, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Thomas Vernon (1631-1711) → Thomas Vernon (merchant) – or Thomas Vernon (MP for City of London), to follow WP:NCPDAB, replacing the (hyphenated) lifespan range. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 08:25, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – William Goring (by 1500-54) → William Goring (politician, died 1554) – or William Goring (courtier, died 1554), to more closely follow WP:NCPDAB, and particularly to replace the strange hyphenated lifespan date range. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 08:15, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama → Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama (EK faction) – There are two organisations exactly with the same name. So disambiguation is needed. The most used term for disambiguation in reliable sources is "EK faction". Neutralhappy (talk) 19:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 07:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Murder of Mallory Manning → Murder of Mellory Manning – Majority of reliable sources now spell victim's name as Mellory (rather than "Mallory"). Muzilon (talk) 23:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 07:48, 30 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 07:51, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Włodzimierz Dzieduszycki (1885-1971) → Włodzimierz Dzieduszycki (Polish noble, born 1885) – or Włodzimierz Dzieduszycki (ornithologist). For improved disambiguation from his grandfather, another Polish noble and naturalist, born 1825. This one was an ornithologist, but that doesn't appear to be a defining characteristic for him. His work in underground resistance and assisting victims of war may be more notable. Both him and his grandfather had something to do with natural history museums. Both articles have low page views (shown here), but the one at the base name does get about three times the number of views as the other one. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 23:30, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 07:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport → Mumbai International Airport – The current title is an extremely long and an uncommon title violating WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISION and WP:NATURALNESS. Wikipedia requires that the official name should not be used (unless it fulfills the criterion at WP:Article titles). If we were to see the usage in news media, "Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport" gives only 300 hits, "Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport" also gives only 300 hits, while "Mumbai International Airport" gives 10,100 hits and "Mumbai Airport" gives 21,100 hits, showing the prevalence of "Mumbai International Airport" and "Mumbai Airport" in news media, and it thus fulfilling the criterion at WP:COMMONNAME. Besides the current name doesn't even show up in ngrams because of its extremely low usage in published sources. "Mumbai International Airport" is much more natural and recognisable to an average reader, and more readers are likely to search for it. Mumbai Airport is good enough too. PadFoot (talk) 10:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:09, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:35, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Round Here → Round Here (Counting Crows song) – Inbound links and page views suggest there is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and all the "Round Here"s should be disambiguated instead. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 02:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:29, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Crossing the inner German border during the Cold War → Crossing the inner German border – WP:CONCISE, mainly. Remsense ‥ 论 03:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Mary Herbert (1686-1775) → Mary Herbert (mine operator) – or Mary Herbert (miner) or Mary Herbert (businesswoman). We don't ordinarily use lifespan ranges (especially with hyphens) for disambiguation of people. See Mary Herbert for other people with this name to be disambiguated from. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 03:06, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Robert Haigh → Robert Haigh (field hockey) – The musician's current recording name is Robert Haigh, not Rob Haigh. This needs disambiguation with the hockey player. Lazz _R 01:38, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Rob Haigh → Robert Haigh (musician)

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(Discuss) – List of treaties of China (1689-1949) → List of treaties of China before the People's Republic – or just List of treaties of China, or split the list into separate lists for the Qing dynasty and the pre-1949 Republic of China. There are currently no other lists of treaties of China on Wikipedia that cover different date ranges, so the current title may be more precise than necessary. The current list has two sections, covering the Qing dynasty and the pre-1949 Republic of China. The last item in the list is from 1947, not 1949. Date ranges should not use hyphens. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 01:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Sudzha (river) → Sudzha River – Natural disambiguation which is common in English, a search gave me several hundred relevant ghits. This page has been boldly moved several times, see here. While the best name is the one I'm suggesting IMO, either way an RM will hopefully lead to stability. Andrewa (talk) 22:14, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Houghton Mifflin Harcourt → HMH Education Company – Company has changed its name; see above for COI editor's request. I am opening this discussion on their behalf. Rusalkii (talk) 22:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Qi (Henan) → Qǐ (state) – Currently this is the only article in Category:Ancient Chinese states that isn't disambiguated by the word "state". Several other reasons for the move request: Qi County, Hebi and Qi County, Kaifeng are both in Henan; the 12th-century puppet state Qi was also based in Henan; and several other polities named Qi also covered parts or the whole of Henan (including the Shandong-based Qi (state)). Not saying that the word "state" is in any way precise (it's obviously not), but it's good to be consistent with other articles in the same category. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 19:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:28, 21 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Fathoms Below (talk) 19:43, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Sophia Howe → Sophia Waller, 2nd Baroness Howe –

DrKay and I have found ourselves in disagreement over the title of this article. At creation, this article was named like it currently is: Sophia Howe. Since she was a peeress suo jure (having inherited the barony from her father), I moved the article to Sophia Howe, 2nd Baroness Howe, which is generally the format for articles on peers – unless they disclaim the title, or don't use it (like for instance author Nicholas Mosley). DrKay moved it back to Sophia Howe with the comment Remove unnecessary parentheses/disambiguator: mismatch of her maiden name and a title she inherited after her marriage. I can buy that her surname wasn't Howe when she inherited the barony, but I find it peculiar that DrKay nevertheless kept it, while removing the title, which was correct. It seems to me that it flies in the face of his own edit summary. As I said, I totally buy that her surname wasn't Howe when she inherited the barony, so I then moved the article to Sophia Waller, 2nd Baroness Howe; Waller being her surname when she inherited the title. DrKay has now moved the article back to Sophia Howe again, with the edit summary bizarre use of unknown surname! What's bizarre?, I ask. DrKay complains the Howe wasn't her surname when she inherited the title, I move it to the surname that she had when she inherited the title, and DrKay moves it back again (never mind referring to WP:RMUM after they have done it themselves ... ). I don't know if anyone is move-warring here, but if so, it certainly isn't me. I have acted in good faith. So, what should the article title be? # Sophia Howe (with or without "2nd Baroness Howe"), this lastname is her maiden name. # Sophia Curzon (with or without "2nd Baroness Howe"), this is the lastname from her 1st husband. # Sophia Curzon-Howe (with or without "2nd Baroness Howe"), #1 and #2 combined, which is what her son, who inherited the barony from her, chose. # Sophia Waller (with or without "2nd Baroness Howe"), this is the lastname from her 2nd husband. Vote 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b, etc, with a=with "2nd Baroness Howe", and b=without the title. My vote is 4a.

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(Discuss) - Ryan Whitney → Ryan Whitney (ice hockey) – Firstly, there is no clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC between Ryan Whitney and Ryan Whitney (actress) (see similar page view numbers, suggesting equal readership). Ryan Whitney used to be called Ryan Newman, which is where all the problems start. However, after three years, two failed RMs, and a unilateral move by a user, we're passed the WP:TOOSOON stage. Let's say Ryan Whitney (actress)'s WP:COMMONNAME is actually Ryan Whitney (more on that later), and we manage to agree that there is no PRIMARYTOPIC, then, we need to move the pages accordingly and create a proper disambiguation page, instead of what is now at Ryan Whitney (disambiguation).
Next, for the case of Ryan Newman (racing driver), the page needs to be moved to Ryan Newman, since he would be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the name "Ryan Newman". We could leave a hatnote at the top so that readers looking for the former Ryan Newman, now Ryan Whitney, could find her. I don't think a Ryan Newman (disambiguation) page is necessary, but let me know. Ryan Dean Newman can stay as is, and we can leave a hatnote if need be.
Alternate proposal: if you disagree with Ryan Whitney's WP:COMMONNAME being Ryan Whitney, I suggest moving Ryan Whitney (actress) to Ryan Whitney Newman, which is used in a fair chunk of sources and on places like her Instagram page. Ryan Newman (racing driver) is still moved to Ryan Newman, hatnotes are still left at the top, but that way we can leave Ryan Whitney (the ice hockey player) where he is, and just leave a hatnote at the top. Ryan Whitney (disambiguation) can be outright deleted. Ryan Dean Newman, no change but hatnotes where needed. Paul Vaurie (talk) 13:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Ryan Newman (racing driver) → Ryan Newman
- Ryan Newman → Ryan Newman (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- Ryan Whitney (disambiguation) → Ryan Whitney

(Discuss) – Canadian (disambiguation) → Canadian – It's safe to say that Canadian doesn't have a primary topic, just like almost every other nationalities (American, Australian, British, Brazilian, Mexican, etc per WP:CONSISTENT) because it can also refer to the something from Canada, its citizens, and either the English/French variety of that language. In fact, Australian (disambiguation) was only recently moved to Australian back in October 2022. JuniperChill (talk) 16:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:22, 21 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 11:42, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Abortion-rights movements → Abortion rights movements – Per WP:COMMONNAME. No other rights movement uses the hyphenated version of the title (e.g. civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, etc.) on Wikipedia. Google Books shows "abortion rights" and "abortion rights movement" are at least 10x more common than their counterparts, and a quick Google Scholar and Pubmed search shows almost unanimous use of "abortion rights" without the hyphen. PassedDown (talk | contribs) 14:12, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 08:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 11:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- United States abortion-rights movement → United States abortion rights movement

(Discuss) – Sol Kyung-gu → Sul Kyung-gu – Sul Kyung-gu is the version Sul uses, as he confirmed, it is on his English passport as well, it’s the version his agency uses, the version media outlets, reporters and even streaming services use for him. A lot of websites also use this name for him, using the correct version on here can clear up confusions people might get with his name and also show respect to the actor. Sul is the version used by most official sources now so that being used on Wikipedia as well can be great help to finally clearing up misunderstandings and help people. Thank you. Do let me know if source is needed for anything. ... Ku9979 (talk) 10:58, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Wi-Fi 6 → IEEE 802.11ax – So this article was moved to the Wi-Fi 6 title in 2021, citing WP:COMMONNAME. However, all the other Wi-Fi articles (Wi-Fi 7, Wi-Fi 8, Wi-Fi 5) use the IEEE technical name, rather than the "Wi-Fi x" marketing name. Thus I suggest moving this article to IEEE 802.11ax (without the "-2021" at the end, as it's not needed - WP:CONCISE; also the later articles don't have "-year" in the title either) to be WP:CONSISTENT with all these other Wi-Fi articles that are titled under the IEEE name. I'd say No one but advanced experts in this field would be searching for this article by its IEEE number, nor know what this article is about from its IEEE number. (from the previous RM) is not much of an issue anymore, as these Wi-Fi articles all now have a neat navigational template at the top clearly showing the "Wi-Fi x" marketing designations of each IEEE WLAN standard. Also, that's what redirects are for. — AP 499D25 (talk) 10:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Use of human shields by Hamas → Allegations that Hamas use human shields – The current title puts increasingly controversial claims in wiki voice. After 4 months more evidence, it is worth discussing this title again. Since the first two discussions there has been strong expert criticism of the IDF claim that civilian casualties are human shields, particularly by Francesca Albanese, but also by others. Even if some of the past allegations are credible or proven, the current title somewhat implies that human shield use can explain a substantial proportion of recent casualties. Adding "allegations" is the simplest and mildest thing we can do to fix the bias in the current title. "Allegation" might be a more acceptable compromise for some people who rejected "accusation", and this proposal is hopefully less confusingly phrased than previous suggestions. ~~FourPi (talk)~~ 09:32, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – National Film Award for Best Short Film → National Film Award for Best Short Film (Up to 30 Min) – Recently the name was officially changed from "Best Short Fiction Film". The official sources, such as the Ministry of Information & Broadcasting's memorandum, government's press release and their X handle mention the new name as "Best Short Film (Up to 30 Min)". If it's part of the title, then it's a noun, and Up to is grammatically correct than Upto and Up-to. However, a user removed the part from the title. There was no explanation. But, since it can happen again, I'm starting an RM. 117.230.91.165 (talk) 07:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - TFF First League → 1. Lig – Following the examples of 2. Bundesliga, 3. Liga and the various other articles named in the format n. Liga, and based on the principle that football leagues are referred to as their native names as in the example of Süper Lig, I believe these articles should be moved. – anlztrk (talk | contribs) 06:46, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- TFF Second League → 2. Lig
- TFF Third League → 3. Lig

(Discuss) – County Highway → County Highway (news magazine) – This article would most likely confuse County highway. 2600:1700:6180:6290:B252:32CB:66B7:AE8D (talk) 20:16, 21 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:37, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – List of New Testament minuscules (2001–) → List of New Testament minuscules (2001–3017) – or List of New Testament minuscules (2001–2900) or List of New Testament minuscules (2101–2900), where the alternative suggested titles would imply removing some of what's currently in the list. My primary goal is to get rid of the strange combination of the dash followed immediately by a closing parenthesis, which is usually a date range but in this case is not. There are less than 30 titles like that on the English Wikipedia that I could find. Note that there's a duplication of the content of the end of this list in List of New Testament minuscules (2901–). There is also a duplicate of the content of the beginning of this list in List of New Testament minuscules (2001–2100). I don't fully understand how these lists are constructed, but I don't see big transclusions. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 03:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:35, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Colonel Wolodyjowski (film) → Pan Wołodyjowski (film) – Per discussion above - the current title is not official, ORish and arguably not even the most popular of the several alternatives used in English discourse; whereas the original Polish name is widely used in English too (and obviously official). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:10, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Colonel Wolodyjowski → Pan Michael – Per discussion above, including ngram and cited academic source that states "Pan Wołodyjowski (usually translated into English as Pan Michael)". Note that "Pan Michael" is the name of the original translation from 1893, the new edition from 1992 for some reason chose a different title, "Fire in the Steppe", but that title does not appear to be very popular. That said, the original Polish title "Pan Wołodyjowski" is also often used in English, so this is a bit of a toss up between WP:USEENGLISH and WP:COMMONNAME, and I'd be fine with using "Pan Wołodyjowski" as well. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:04, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – List of accolades received by If Beale Street Could Talk → List of accolades received by If Beale Street Could Talk (film) – The subject is the film adaptation, not the novel. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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(Discuss) - Northern League (ice hockey, 2005–) → Northern League (ice hockey, 2005–present) – The current date range format for the first three of these hockey leagues doesn't seem to follow the usual Wikipedia convention. I found only 27 titles like this on the English Wikipedia. As for the fourth one, I found no indication that the older New Brunswick Junior Hockey League is a primary topic over the newer one, so I suggest disambiguation. Pageviews here. If we need to pick one of the two as primary, I suggest picking the new one. Some people looking for the new one are almost certainly landing on the article about the older one by accident. There is no hatnote to indicate that a reader might have found the wrong article. There is also a New Brunswick Junior C Hockey League article. Also, is it necessary to use "ice hockey" for the Northern League rather than just "hockey"? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 21:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 12:33, 20 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:16, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - M40 Gun Motor Carriage → M40 gun motor carriage – Per WP:MILCAPS, WP:NCCAPS, and MOS:CAPS, use lowercase as these "motor carriages" are generic terms, not usually capitalized in sources. Dicklyon (talk) 22:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Red Star F.C. → Red Star FC – The club itself does not use the dots in the FC, neither on the logo or on its official pages (like Instagram or the official website). Basically just no one uses the dots apart from this Wikipedia article. There is no consensus to use a particular version in France: it widely varies (from FC Villefranche Beaujolais to Stade Rennais F.C.). Paul Vaurie (talk) 16:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Sid Eudy → Sycho Sid – Reposting on behalf of User:Rusted AutoParts, with the following rationale: "at no point was Sid ever known by his real name, so I find his being located at Eudy being confusing. I see there's prior rationale being debate over whether Sycho or Vicious was the common name. That'll probably be needed to be sorted through this discussion, but the point remains that to me, Eudy was not the common name, and is inappropriate the keep the page hosted at that location." 162 etc. (talk) 16:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – John Jefferson → John Jefferson (American football) – There is no clear primary topic. Page views: * John Jefferson (American football) Page views in last 30 days: 2,011 * John Wayles Jefferson Page views in last 30 days: 2,894 John Wayles Jefferson is commonly referred to as John Jefferson (eg.) Pinging @Gonzo fan2007 and Bagumba: from prior discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League § Move of John Jefferson to John Jefferson (American football player) Daask (talk) 12:29, 20 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:25, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Hilbert system → Axiomatic system (logic) – Although I had moved it to "Axiomatic system (logic)", User:2A00:8A60:C010:1:0:0:1:1016 has requested that this article be moved back to "Hilbert system", which was the article title before my recent substantial revisions. He believes that the current article misleads readers to think all axiomatic systems in logic are Hilbert systems. Thiagovscoelho (talk) 12:50, 20 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:22, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Piecewise property → Piecewise – The "piecewise" isn’t a property in the way, say, the continuity is a property of a function. The same point has been made by other editors at Talk:Piecewise_function#Requested_move_20_July_2024. Taku (talk) 08:08, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Philippine Senate hearing on the Kingdom of Jesus Christ → Philippine Senate hearing on alleged Kingdom of Jesus Christ abuses – Per WP:PRECISE, as the hearing was specifically about abuses within the organization, not the organization itself. The necessity of including the word "alleged" is per WP:NPOVTITLE; this passes the WP:NDESC rule on use of that word, as there is an actual accusation. Bagoto (talk) 12:07, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Reeves AN/MSQ-77 Bomb Directing Central → AN/MSQ-77 – It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be either AN/MSQ-77 or including the system name and type like AN/MSQ-77 Bomb Directing Central. For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either "AN/MSQ-77" or "AN/MSQ-77 Bomb Directing Central" (the redirect already exists for that one). It is not typical across Wikipedia to place the Manufacturer into the article name, such as Reeves AN/MSQ-77. I am not able to find any examples like that. But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 22:29, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 11:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 12:03, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2024 Kenya Cricket World Cup Challenge League A → 2024 Cricket World Cup Challenge League A – no need for mentioning the hosts in title, sources refer to it as just "Cricket World Cup Challenge League A" thus, it is the WP:COMMONNAME. For example here are some sources from the previous cycle, [94][95][96][97][98][99][100][101][102][103]. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 16:41, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - De La Salle Green Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Green Archers volleyball – The above existing pages have titles that do emulate the placement of a disambiguating sports descriptor after the team name, per WP:QUALIFIER. This style of adding descriptors has been prescribed by example by, among other similar college-sports WikiProjects, this page under WP:CBBALL and this page under WP:CFB for titles of pages about United States college teams. Clearly, these descriptors were prescribed in order to naturally disambiguate (by WP:NATURAL) a page about a team playing a certain sport from pages about namesake teams that are playing in other sports. In each of the team pages above being requested for moving, however, 1) the team name used is not that of its institution's team's uniform or collective name but the special nickname or unique moniker given to that specific team playing in its sport, so much so that the need for disambiguation disappears. 2) what is produced by the addition of a disambiguating sport descriptor after the team's special nickname is a redundancy. For example, there are no other De La Salle Green Spikers other than the De La Salle Green Archers team playing men's volleyball. For having a redundant title, the page's title then creates WP:OVERPRECISION and breaches the WP:CONCISE rule. That, however, can be salvaged by replacing the special moniker with the institution's team's uniform or collective name, a replacement which is what would have the need for disambiguation and erase the redundancy. Bagoto (talk) 09:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ToadetteEdit (talk) 17:48, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 12:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2024 Kolkata rape and murder incident → 2024 Kolkata rape and murder – Incident was pointlessly added to the title in an undiscussed move. 2A00:23EE:1928:8C3:951B:C401:3A56:519A (talk) 15:17, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Sergiy → Serhii – 1.More results, 2.MOS:UKR.--MykolaHK (talk) 13:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Al-Tabaeen school attack → Al-Tabaeen school massacre – The flowchart on WP:DEATHS makes it clear that as the people are dead -> because of homicide -> not capital punishment -> nobody is convicted, we could go with "Al-Tabaeen school killings", but given the number of people who were killed, I believe massacre is, sadly, appropriate. Foreign ministries across the Arab world have also considered it a massacre, and we refer to other such tragic events - of varying scales - as a massacre (i.e. Bucha massacre, Hoddle Street massacre, Samashki massacre, etc.), so I believe this change is appropriate considering the scale of the incident and the number of dead and wounded as reported by RS within the article. Smallangryplanet (talk) 17:57, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Collingwood Blues (2020–) → Collingwood Blues – The qualifying bookend "(2020–)" is unnecessary. The article relates to an existing ice hockey team. Collingwood Blues (1988–2011) is for the defunct team with the same name. The target page is currently a redirect. Buffalkill (talk) 01:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 02:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 14:39, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Collingwood Blues → Collingwood Blues (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) – Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama (AP Sunnis) → Samastha (AP Faction) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Spworld2 (talk) 04:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Midland Mainline → Midland Mainline (train operating company) – The last time I requested this, I got the disambiguator tag wrong ('company' rather than 'train operating company'). Since its been a few months, and I am moving this to a different name this time, it should be acceptable (as in, not disruptive) to revisit it again. But anyway, similar to my previous rationale, the Midland Mainline TOC is long gone, and almost everyone searching for this is looking for the mainline, so I propose moving Midland Mainline to Midland Mainline (train operating company) then redirecting Midland Mainline to Midland Main Line. Even Google comes up with Midland Mainline first. I do get WP:SMALLDETAILS but I don't think it applies here since the primary topic is probably the mainline over the TOC. JuniperChill (talk) 19:26, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Ascalon → Ashkelon (ancient city) – Recently, the name of this article was changed from Tel Ashkelon to Ascalon. The rationale was that Ashkelon and Tel Ashkelon are too similar, and that readers cannot be expected to differentiate. It was said that Ascalon is the name of the historical site. This rationale is invalid. The name Ashkelon, is the conventionally accepted name for both the modern city, and the ancient site. In many cases, the name Ashkelon is even used when referring to periods in which it was historically known as Ascalon. This place has at least 20,000 years of history, accros many periods of times. It was a prehistoric site, a Canaanite, Philistine, Hellenistic city, a Crusader city, an Islamic city... We don't always know its actual name, and it has never had a single way to pronounce its name. I am suggesting to change the name to Ashkelon (ancient city). I divided my argument into three parts: (1) Ashkelon and Ascalon are virtually the same and therefore confusing; (2) The toponym for the ancient site is known in maps and sites as "Ashkelon"; (3) the conentional scholarly name for the city in all periods is "Ashkelon", including periods in which it was called in different names. 1. Ascalon and Ashkelon are virtually the same. It is very confusing still. Differetiating them with "ancient city" in brackets makes no mistakes. Another option would've been "Tel Ashkelon", but there were times in which the ancient settlements in Ashkelon were not exactly on the Tel, and the city often controlled a much broader territory. Tel Ashkelon would strictly refer to the antiquties, but the article's scope goes beyond it. Another opition I thought about was "History of Ashkelon", simmilar to how we have "History of Athens", but I think that this might confuse the people who are looking for the history of modern Ashkelon, whose place should be in the article about the modern city. Therefore, I think that Ashkelon (ancient city) is the clearest option for the scope of the article. 2. Location identification: Today, the principal site of ancient Ashkelon is known as Tel Ashkelon. This is a declared national park in Israel, and it apears by that name. The official name of the park is "Ashkelon National Park". I think it makes a lot of sense to assume, that many people who visit Israel as tourist, will likely enter this Wikipedia article. They will not be referred to Ascalon, but to Ashkelon, either Tel Ashkelon (mentioned here, here, here and [104], which were the first results I was given by google. Therefore, the site, as a location, is better identified with Ashkelon rather than Ascalon Bolter21 (talk to me) 11:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ToadetteEdit (talk) 18:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Tales of the Jedi (TV series) → Star Wars: Tales – Since this move made nearly three months ago has been objected to, here is an RM. I personally don't agree with the need as consensus was reached on the matter. Never the less, this anthology series had its first installment released as (formally) Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi (commonly Tales of the Jedi) in October 2022, with it announced in April 2023 that it would get a second season (wording used by media outlets, though the quote from Filoni was "Tales of the Jedi was so fun the first time, I decided to do some more.") Subsequently, it was announced a year later in April 2024 that this second "season" was a new "installment", Star Wars: Tales of the Empire (commonly Tales of the Empire). This press release shows the use of both formal names as well as the key quote in my view (and the determination of the previous consensus) that Tales of the Empire was the second installment of the "Tales" series. Thus, an appropriate name to address this anthology series considering the formal name would be Star Wars: Tales, which provides a WP:NATURAL name. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 10:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) - Bolognese School → Bolognese school – Schools of art, schools of thought, etc., are usually rendered in sources with lowercase school. We should fix, consistent with WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS. This is a logical extension of the consensus at Talk:Cretan School#Requested move 25 April 2024, but I thought I'd do another discussion just in case. And for the Cuzco school, restore the common spelling. (These are all found at Template:Western art movements, and there may be others there that I've missed.) Dicklyon (talk) 02:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Lucchese School → Lucchese school
- Delft School (painting) → Delft school (painting)
- Norwich School of painters → Norwich school of painters
- Boston School (painting) → Boston school (painting)
- Volcano School → Volcano school
- Pont-Aven School → Pont-Aven school
- Cusco School → Cuzco school
- Quito School → Quito school
- Sienese School → Sienese school
- Cologne School of Painting → Cologne school of painting
- Hudson River School → Hudson River school
- Cologne School → Cologne school
- Cologne School (music) → Cologne school (music)

Possibly incomplete requests

Talk:Neo Geo (system) – Neo Geo (system) is requested for move to Neo Geo, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move

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