Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2011 August 1

August 1

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 1, 2011

Biggest wins and losses on Wheel of Fortune

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was move to subpage of target to Wheel of Fortune (U.S. game show)/Biggest wins and losses as needsd to be kept for GFDL attribution.

Biggest wins and losses on Wheel of Fortune → Wheel of Fortune (U.S. game show) (links to redirect • history • stats)

Target makes no mention whatsoever of "biggest wins and losses". Unused redirect, averages to <1 hit/day. Histmerge would be fine since this is a former article that was merged (and subsequently removed per WP:IINFO). Suggest that Biggest wins and losses on Wheel of Fortune be moved to a subpage of the talk page to preserve content and attribution, with a {{Copied}}. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 22:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse suggestion from nominator. Whilst we have to keep the page history, there is no point in maintaining a misleading redirect. The page can be moved to a subpage and a note can be put in the merge targets talk page showing where the old history is. (I assume this still meets GFDL requirements? Not an expert.) --Taelus (talk) 22:48, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As long as the old content from the "biggest losses" article is stored somewhere, it meets GFDL. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 23:16, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I am surprised that there isn't a relevant section in the target but there you go! Preserve attribution as above. Bridgeplayer (talk) 02:59, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question Apparently none of the content from "Biggest wins ..." remains at "Wheel of Fortune ...". Do we really need to keep credit to unused content? - Nabla (talk) 15:40, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Answer - Hi, yes we do. Whilst at the moment there is no visible content remaining, the content is still in the history and could be reverted to at any time. At that stage we would be in breach of our GFDL licence if we had not retained attribution. Bridgeplayer (talk) 16:27, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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First sexual experience (human)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Virginity#Loss of virginity. 15:35, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

First sexual experience (human) → Hymen (links to redirect • history • stats)

The current redirect is completely inappropriate. It could be redirected to virginity, but who would really type that phrase into the search box? 'Graham87 15:26, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget-To Virginity#Loss of virginity. Odd as it may seem, the stats show that this is, indeed, getting hits.--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:01, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Virginity#Loss of virginity. This is a used redirect. It started out as a short article mention the breaking of the hymen, hence the target. The key point is that the whole phrase need not be typed into the search box. Typing as little as 'First sexual' is enough to be offered this redirect. No reason to delete. Bridgeplayer (talk) 00:04, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, in my search box (Mozilla Firefox), "First sex" is enough to offer this suggestion and no others beyond "first sex" itself, which is a redirect to The First Sex, a book (and apparently an orphan). So I can see while the whole search term may not be used much, it is arrived at in this way The suggested retarget seems sensible enough. Si Trew (talk) 09:22, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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16th Infantry Division (United States)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to 16th Division (United States). Enough already; now that this new page has been created we can target this redirect at its natural home and put this curious RfD peacefully to sleep. RIP. NAC. Bridgeplayer (talk) 01:42, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

16th Infantry Division (United States) → 16th Division (links to redirect • history • stats)

Redirect creating a loop Night of the Big Wind _talk 10:51, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect "looped" because you added it to the disambiguation page it currently redirects to. I have reverted that addition, and now there is no loop. Can I ask you to explain your nomination more fully? I suspect there's something I'm missing here. At least, I hope so. --88.104.47.107 (talk) 17:52, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Dear Nameless. The present disambigpage for the 16th Division refers to the 37th Infantry Division (United States), as the 16th Infantry Division, originally raised as a National Guard division and later renamed. Because the article (nor its sources) state when the division was renamed, it is impossible for me to say that Stephen J. Chamberlin served in this division. It is very unlikely in this case! The 16th/37th was send to Europe in june 1918, while Chamberlin was send to Camp Kearny in september 1918, to become assistant Chief of Staff to Major General David C. Shanks. But Shanks is not listed as commander of 16th/37th Division. So there should be another 16th Infantry Division been raised, due to the fact that they won't send a major general to an empty camp... Night of the Big Wind _talk 00:53, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - The division you are referring to is mentioned at [1]. The ideal solution would be to replace the redirect with a stub, if anybody can. I have no idea where to find any references, unfortunately. TimBentley (talk) 01:43, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There are two entries in 16th Division that could be appropriate for 16th Division (United States), so keep and add {{R from incomplete disambiguation}}. TimBentley (talk) 20:36, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I just realized I misread the header. 16th Infantry Division (United States) would not refer to 16th Armored Division (United States). See my comment above. TimBentley (talk) 01:43, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I agree with TimBentley's analysis. Bridgeplayer (talk) 00:11, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to 37th Infantry Division (United States) and remove 16th Infantry Division (United States) from 16th Division to avoid the looped redirect. The suggested retarget explains the 16/37 history. Having 16th Infantry Division (United States) as a red link in the disambiguation page is only worthwhile if there is a realistic possibility of a sourced article and thus far this does not appear to be the case. Bridgeplayer (talk) 02:16, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to 16th Division (United States), as this is the same thing. This target would also direct to the later created division if the reader wants to learn more. It seems odd to effectively skip the reader past the topic at hand and send them straight to a related topic. --Taelus (talk) 22:49, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment .. that's because the page has just been created :-) Bridgeplayer (talk) 01:31, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Already solved by Buckshot06 who deleted the wrong redirect and corrected the linking. Night of the Big Wind _talk 23:36, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Ken Kitamura

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The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf (talk) 15:39, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ken Kitamura → Ken (musician) (links to redirect • history • stats)

Deletion. No reliable sources state that this is his legal name, thus it violates WP:BLP. Xfansd (talk) 20:58, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The best source I've found was IMDB and their biographies don't seem to be considered reliable. The Japanese version mentions his full name, according to what I could get from Babel Fish. TimBentley (talk) 01:10, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just like you said IMDB's bios are not reliable sources, and neither are other versions of Wikipedia. (Also, sorry but at first I forgot to put that I think the redirect should be deleted, so I added it now.) Xfansd (talk) 16:27, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Taelus (talk) 08:47, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete since there's no way to verify this is his real name. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 22:26, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hapontastic

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The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf (talk) 15:42, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hapontastic → List of programs broadcast by ABS-CBN (links to redirect • history • stats)

This redirect is not incorrect (Hapontastic is/was a timeslot on the ABS-CBN Filipino TV channel). But there is no longer any mention of the subject in the target list, which is potentially confusing. — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:57, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - if we have nothing to say on a subject we should front up and admit it! Passing mention at Banana Split (TV series) but not substantial enough for a worthwhile retarget. Bridgeplayer (talk) 02:22, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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